Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread)

[SteveR]

Hi all,

Just watched the above, wow - now that's what I call a cliff-hangar! Anybody else seen it yet?

BSG has been a huge surprise to me - very gritty, adult and a very strong story that not only holds the series together but is consistently surprising me with plot turns and so on. It is very well written.

It's very very good. Roll on season 3

Cheers
Steve

 

[Carolyn Hill]

Yes, I saw and enjoyed it.

The podcasts' comments on the two episodes (in fact, on the entire season) are fascinating.

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/index.html



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I am intrigued by the story possibilities indicated by the finale: no longer Running Away in Space, they will now be (I assume) Resisting in Place.

 

[ScottSF]

did you notice how Fat Apollo got? Really shows how much the war defined him.

 

[Carolyn Hill]

did you notice how Fat Apollo got? Really shows how much the war defined him.

When I first saw Apollo's new chunkiness, I thought maybe I was imagining it. But you're right. Without the war, flab city. And, maybe, without Kara to mix it up with?

 

[ScottSF]

it's details like that that really make the show work for me. I don't really have a clue what the Cylons are up to. They were trying to destroy all the humans but they still seem to need them. It's a complex relationship. I'm really eager to see how they follow through with it.

 

[SteveR]

Ah, I just assumed he was pregnant - rebuilding the population and all that

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It was good to see the Cylons demonstrate even more log term planning in there too in their method of finding the colony. I thought Baltar played his part really well - certainly looking the broken man that he should be at the end when he realises what he had done (again!).


I am a grahics fan and am a big fan of the CGI in BSG - I really loved the explosion scene - very cool. We are very lucky these days getting motion picture special effects in TV shows. Hell even the new Dr. Who has some really wonderful CGI work.

Anyway I digress.

As to the Cylons relationship - it is hard to know. It is almost like they are children wanting to spread their wings but can't quite bring themselves to go for good. I am not sure why they said the Cylons would stop chasing them - I'm not clear on this - seems like Cylon politics. The influential enlightened' number 8 and Sharon Cylon on Caprica putting their oar in it seems. But again, we don't know why they turned up at New Caprica - maybe the 2 rebel cylons are no longer important - but the time scale suggests this is not the case (1 year on and being 1 light year away when the bomb went off).

Hey I dunno!

Steve

 

[Paradox 99]

As to the Cylons relationship - it is hard to know. It is almost like they are children wanting to spread their wings but can't quite bring themselves to go for good. I am not sure why they said the Cylons would stop chasing them - I'm not clear on this - seems like Cylon politics. The influential enlightened' number 8 and Sharon Cylon on Caprica putting their oar in it seems. But again, we don't know why they turned up at New Caprica - maybe the 2 rebel cylons are no longer important - but the time scale suggests this is not the case (1 year on and being 1 light year away when the bomb went off).

I think it has to do with the baby - a merging of the two species. I'm very curious to see how this turns out.

Though, I'm curious as to why Admiral Adama believed that the Cylons weren't going to come back - a year isn't exactly a long time.

 

[SteveR]

Though, I'm curious as to why Admiral Adama believed that the Cylons weren't going to come back - a year isn't exactly a long time.

Yes indeed - mighty suspiscous! Is he or isn't he? I reckon he is. Nothing would surprise with this show - it is quite full of surprises.

 

[Carolyn Hill]

I think it has to do with the baby - a merging of the two species. I'm very curious to see how this turns out.

Yes, exactly. That fits with why the Cylons want to "protect" the humans by making them surrender to Cylon rule. Plus, didn't a Cylon enter Kara's tent during the Cylon landing and ask her ailing husband where Kara is? (I'm hazy on who the tent-entering guy is.)

Anyway, Kara is important for military reasons, I suppose--but she's also one of the women who were part of the breeding program back on Cylon-occupied Caprica, so if that guy is a Cylon, maybe he's looking for her because of that. And even if he isn't a Cylon and isn't looking for her for that reason, I still assume that the Cylon's have breeding in mind.

Though, I'm curious as to why Admiral Adama believed that the Cylons weren't going to come back - a year isn't exactly a long time.

I missed that. Did Admiral Adama say that? And if so, does he mean it? Somehow I got the impression he's gone for another reason.

 

[alicebandassassin]

i have diped in and out but i watched the original and loved it so wathched all the first serise but found i missed what was there before and could not get round all the caractors this time most be getting old!!

 

[SteveR]

Alicebandasssasin, did you get to see David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1.

Later

 

[SteveR]

Alicebandasssasin, did you get to see David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1.

Later

 

[Carolyn Hill]

David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1.

You're right, it's David Hatch and he first appears in season 1. He's elected in "Colonial Day."

I know I've already mentioned the podcasts, but I'm gonna mention them again, because the last three 'casts have been recordings of the writers' meeting discussing the episode "Scar." It's fascinating to listen to the writers and the show runner discuss plot and characterization and brainstorm ideas!

 

[SteveR]

Sorry Brown Rat, I meant to say that I did listen to the podcast for the series finale. Very interesting to get an insight into all the decision that make the show what it is.

Very interesting. Whilst I know Tricia Helfer was/is a model (how could she not be!) I didn't realise that this is her first acting role. I thought she was one of the best actors in the show. Mind you, the strength of the acting is very much a core strenght to BSG.

Apologies btw, for the above double post - absolutely no idea how that happened.

Steve

 

[Carolyn Hill]

Whilst I know Tricia Helfer was/is a model (how could she not be!) I didn't realise that this is her first acting role. I thought she was one of the best actors in the show.

I agree! It's amazing to watch her shade her delivery depending on which Six she's portraying in a given scene.

 

[heron]

loved it, some of the very best sci-fi on t.v. ever. i have a possibly very dumb question is richard hatchs caracter a cylon, it was after all his "suggestion" to Baltar that they stop running and take dean stockwell/cylons word that the war was over?

 

[Carolyn Hill]

loved it, some of the very best sci-fi on t.v. ever. i have a possibly very dumb question is richard hatchs caracter a cylon, it was after all his "suggestion" to Baltar that they stop running and take dean stockwell/cylons word that the war was over?

Anything is possible. But I'd rather that he doesn't turn out to be a Cylon, because I like the "human versus human" political struggle he and Laura Roslin have. If Tom Zarek (Hatch's character) turns out to be a Cylon, then that struggle wouldn't be "human versus human"--plus it would duplicate Laura's struggle with Baltar to some extent, insofar as Baltar is Cylon-haunted by Six.

 

[heron]

assuming laura is human, aaaaarrrgghh im seeing cylons everywhere.

 

[Carolyn Hill]

That's funny, Heron!

I think Laura's probably one of the humans. She's fulfilling a human role foretold in the prophecies, she had a human disease, and she was healed by Cylon blood. (If she was a Cylon, she would already have Cylon blood and not gotten sick--or at least, that's what I'm assuming. But as you point out, there are other human-seeming Cylons we haven't met yet, so all my assumptions could easily be bunk.)

 

[Frozeninja]

Battlestar Galactica is truly awesome in my opinion. The final episode surprised (and impressed) me a bit though, as it leaves me with absolutely no idea what direction the show is going to go in season 3. Anyone got any ideas?