lab made sperm?

There are still plenty of people who object to Dolly. And they're LOUD. The ones who are more reasonable don't say much. Who do you think is likely to get heard? In the eyes of many, we are seriously playing God here. I think that's a crock. In fact, I'm damn' sure it's a crock. But that same objection was levelled against penicillin when it first began to be used; it still is, in some places. And, since these people have the same political rights as anyone else, they push for legislation to prevent what they see as a moral evil. Whether they're right or wrong, they will be heard, and it will have an effect. In the end, it probably won't be much of one, but it can certainly throw roadblocks in along the way....
 
please tell me i wont get much of that on this forum...im getting fed up of justifying myself... i thought this story was 'safe'
 
CarlottaVonUberwald said:
please tell me i wont get much of that on this forum...im getting fed up of justifying myself... i thought this story was 'safe'
Hmmm. I don't see why you should. This is an interesting science story, not (here, anyway, I think) a controversial political one. In the big world, yes. Here, I expect what you'll get are people fascinated with the possibilities.

Oh, and incidentally, CVU, I applaud you for bringing the stories in this branch of science up. You're right. Most of what does end up here is in other fields, but it's all fascinating stuff, and this should be looked at as well. Thanks.
 
lol ill admit i do it becasue genetics is what i love its what i have greatest undertanding of its what i do lol... in fact i think im going to do a series of presentations on biological issues aimed at A-level students to try and te4ach them things by looking at cases it could be used YAY...


anyway back on topic :p
 
I think my biggest worry with artificial sperm is not so much taht they are playing "god' but--what about our inherited DNA memories?

Instincts, our biology---for example, our diet has changed drastically since humans have evolved (and we are evolving still).

Now, as for them playing God, I believe that God gave us the ability to manipulate our environment, of all His amazing creatures, we were created for that purpose. We, as humans, were told to go forth and populate the earth. That is what they are learning to do, and if they can make better ways for humans who want children to have them, why not? It says nothing in the bible about humans creating humans, in fact, my understanding of the bible is that it encourages us to be like Him, and it encourages us to be parents.

PS Markey: It was terribly hard to resist those un-eloquent comments!!!

PPS: Carlotta: There has never been anything "Safe" about science.
 
Hmm- If I'm reading that correctly, the 'artificial sperm' was created from embryonic stem cells that had already begun to develop into sperm cells, and the scientists just encouraged them to develop. I'm wondering why they would call them artificial cells, when they were already on there way to that end anyway. Nothing really artificial about it. And if men have always had the ability to have stem cells retrieved via testicular biopsy, why hasn't someone researched this before(as far as human men go, I'm betting lack of volunteers)although, maybe they have. I always thought stem cells were an embryonic/umbilical thing, thus part of the ethical argument. If they are something that can be given willingly, then viva la research. I'm just glad these researchers are taking a slow and cautious approach.
 
to be honest at the contiuned slow and cautioyus approach there wont be enough money to make use of research like this to those who need it


( im on a one wqoman FOP crusade im afraid)
 
CarlottaVonUberwald said:
to be honest at the contiuned slow and cautioyus approach there wont be enough money to make use of research like this to those who need it


( im on a one wqoman FOP crusade im afraid)

Good for you! Keep the flags flying!:)
 
On a serious note...

This is a great topic, you have certainly made good points CVU!

The fertility game or should I say, infertility game is some game, and if you are lucky you get a prize at the end of it.:)

 
uhuh- fertitlity isnt the test of a good parent i always say

i mena some poeple who are fertiel have 10 kids but couldnt raise one right

meanwhile thre perfect parents just cant have children because there infertile :(
 

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