1.07: The Nox
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Sean3w
I havn't seen this episode yet. I've mainly only seen end of season 2 and 3 and 4
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I havn't seen this episode yet. I've mainly only seen end of season 2 and 3 and 4
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MythingLink
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6:51 pm on Aug. 19, 2000
I agree. I think The Nox was one of the better episodes from the first season. It seemed to be well thought out and plotted. The characters were all likeable and their logic made sense. Not to mention that we got to see some of Jack's skills put to use.
I only have one complaint and that was the way that Carter broke cover when Jack was shot. I could see Daniel doing it. He was a civilian after all, but Carter is supposed to be trained military. I realize that she had to 'die' along with Jack and Daniel, but it still rankled me that they allowed her to do that.
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MythingLink
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6:51 pm on Aug. 19, 2000
I agree. I think The Nox was one of the better episodes from the first season. It seemed to be well thought out and plotted. The characters were all likeable and their logic made sense. Not to mention that we got to see some of Jack's skills put to use.
I only have one complaint and that was the way that Carter broke cover when Jack was shot. I could see Daniel doing it. He was a civilian after all, but Carter is supposed to be trained military. I realize that she had to 'die' along with Jack and Daniel, but it still rankled me that they allowed her to do that.
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Marleen
YES!!! Sam would never do that, she is supposed to be a trained professional. I don't even think Daniel would be *that* stupid...then again *S*. But overall Sam's character was really weird in the first season. She got a bit better in season two thank god. I really hated that line in COTG the reproductive organs on the outside bla bla bla. No woman would say that, soooooo ridiculous.
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If a schizophrenic threatens with suicide, are we talking about a hostage
situation then?
YES!!! Sam would never do that, she is supposed to be a trained professional. I don't even think Daniel would be *that* stupid...then again *S*. But overall Sam's character was really weird in the first season. She got a bit better in season two thank god. I really hated that line in COTG the reproductive organs on the outside bla bla bla. No woman would say that, soooooo ridiculous.
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If a schizophrenic threatens with suicide, are we talking about a hostage
situation then?
SGPflughaupt
I dunno about the arguement over Sam breaking cover. I havent seen this ep,like Sean I have seen half of season 2,and all of season 3 and 4(just the ones aired on Showtime upto this point of course) and the first three eps of season 1.
Sam might be in the military and flown in combat,but ground combat follows different rules. If you are not an Army Infantryman or member of spec ops in another branch of service,like Jack,then you would not get that sort of training for the proper reflexes in a firefight. Not even in basic training in the Air Force would an Officer recieve that training (I know being a Air Force cadet at one time). Therefore without that training someone might instinctively jump up during a battle when they would be better remaining in cover.
I dunno about the arguement over Sam breaking cover. I havent seen this ep,like Sean I have seen half of season 2,and all of season 3 and 4(just the ones aired on Showtime upto this point of course) and the first three eps of season 1.
Sam might be in the military and flown in combat,but ground combat follows different rules. If you are not an Army Infantryman or member of spec ops in another branch of service,like Jack,then you would not get that sort of training for the proper reflexes in a firefight. Not even in basic training in the Air Force would an Officer recieve that training (I know being a Air Force cadet at one time). Therefore without that training someone might instinctively jump up during a battle when they would be better remaining in cover.
MythingLink
I think I have to disagree a bit. Even though officer basic training isn't as intensive as enlisted, they still have to do combat sims. And they did make mention of her hand to hand training in Emancipation. Also it's my understanding that pilots go through survival training in case they are ever downed. Her father being military, I would also have to say that she would have picked up some stuff as a child.
None of this, though, accounts for human nature. <G>
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MythingLink
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I think I have to disagree a bit. Even though officer basic training isn't as intensive as enlisted, they still have to do combat sims. And they did make mention of her hand to hand training in Emancipation. Also it's my understanding that pilots go through survival training in case they are ever downed. Her father being military, I would also have to say that she would have picked up some stuff as a child.
None of this, though, accounts for human nature. <G>
Cheers,
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padders
Funny how we all seem to think alike. I also remember seeing that episode, i had waited ages for it as i missed it on first showing and a friend in Australia actually sent it to me!
It was weird that Sam jumped up but I think as Mythinglink suggested, she was so shocked to see Jack and Daniel shot that she stood up in, well, shock.
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Funny how we all seem to think alike. I also remember seeing that episode, i had waited ages for it as i missed it on first showing and a friend in Australia actually sent it to me!
It was weird that Sam jumped up but I think as Mythinglink suggested, she was so shocked to see Jack and Daniel shot that she stood up in, well, shock.
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Marleen
I can see her freezing, not capable to move for a bit after seeing Jack getting shot. But to actually stand up, practically waving to Apophis "hey, here I am, kill me!" Nah...that's not the Sam I know
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If a schizophrenic threatens with suicide, are we talking about a hostage
situation then?
I can see her freezing, not capable to move for a bit after seeing Jack getting shot. But to actually stand up, practically waving to Apophis "hey, here I am, kill me!" Nah...that's not the Sam I know
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If a schizophrenic threatens with suicide, are we talking about a hostage
situation then?
padders
or for daniel of course
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or for daniel of course
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SGPflughaupt
Myth,you raised a good counterpoint by mentioning the fact that Sam at some point had hand to hand training as mentioned in CotG. This indeed would imply that at some point she recieved combat training. However combat training (even hand to hand is not normal for Air Force Officers even pilots (now I speak from my experience of knowing what my Father did,he was a navigator in the Air Commandos Special Operations Group). He did recieve survival training but as a pilot the train that he recieved was in Air combat in which it is hard to jump up in a cockpit anyways.
The strange thing about Sam and the fact she had received combat training is that she is an Astrophysicist (I mean i knew fights for grants among scientist was cut-throat but I did know that was literal *grin*)
All arguements aside,though, I think Myth has convinced me of the illogic of Sams jump.
Myth,you raised a good counterpoint by mentioning the fact that Sam at some point had hand to hand training as mentioned in CotG. This indeed would imply that at some point she recieved combat training. However combat training (even hand to hand is not normal for Air Force Officers even pilots (now I speak from my experience of knowing what my Father did,he was a navigator in the Air Commandos Special Operations Group). He did recieve survival training but as a pilot the train that he recieved was in Air combat in which it is hard to jump up in a cockpit anyways.
The strange thing about Sam and the fact she had received combat training is that she is an Astrophysicist (I mean i knew fights for grants among scientist was cut-throat but I did know that was literal *grin*)
All arguements aside,though, I think Myth has convinced me of the illogic of Sams jump.
MythingLink
And another one bites the dust.
Having been involved with the military for, oh say the past 25 years or so, I tend to be rather opinionated on the subject. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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And another one bites the dust.
Having been involved with the military for, oh say the past 25 years or so, I tend to be rather opinionated on the subject. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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padders
What is that now then, Mything 634 everyone else 23 ??? hehe.
what do you do with the military?
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What is that now then, Mything 634 everyone else 23 ??? hehe.
what do you do with the military?
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MythingLink
Nah, I think it's more like 5 to 4. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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Nah, I think it's more like 5 to 4. <G>
Cheers,
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MythingLink
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padders
hehe. still beating us all then
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hehe. still beating us all then
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Hammer
Although The Nox wasn't my favourite episode, there were some parts that I distinctly liked. The first was Apophis's personal defence shield (PDS). This piece of Goa-tech (as I like to call Goa'uld technology) is SO COOL! I want one :-D
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Hammer - DANIELite, JACKette, TEAL'Conian, KAWler, FERling and GM of the Stargate Command RPG
"Colonel O'Neill, what the HELL are you doing?!" "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING??!" -- Hammond and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "I'm telling ya Teal'c, if we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it...lose it, it means crazy, nuts, bonzo, to lose control of one's faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal...WACKO!" -- O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "What are you smiling at?" "Nothin'" -- Carter and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity
Although The Nox wasn't my favourite episode, there were some parts that I distinctly liked. The first was Apophis's personal defence shield (PDS). This piece of Goa-tech (as I like to call Goa'uld technology) is SO COOL! I want one :-D
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Hammer - DANIELite, JACKette, TEAL'Conian, KAWler, FERling and GM of the Stargate Command RPG
"Colonel O'Neill, what the HELL are you doing?!" "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING??!" -- Hammond and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "I'm telling ya Teal'c, if we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it...lose it, it means crazy, nuts, bonzo, to lose control of one's faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal...WACKO!" -- O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "What are you smiling at?" "Nothin'" -- Carter and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity
Hammer
Oh...let's not forget the actual Nox themselves. They're sweet ^_^
Nefrayu is may favourite! Especially in these scenes:
Nefrayu: "Nefrayu"
Sam: "Carter"
Jack: "Nooooo...you can't keep him."
and
Nefrayu: "Is that a weapon?"
Jack: "Yes...and you can't have it."
Jack looked like Robin Hood with that bow and arrow
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Hammer - DANIELite, JACKette, TEAL'Conian, KAWler, FERling and GM of the Stargate Command RPG
"Colonel O'Neill, what the HELL are you doing?!" "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING??!" -- Hammond and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "I'm telling ya Teal'c, if we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it...lose it, it means crazy, nuts, bonzo, to lose control of one's faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal...WACKO!" -- O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "What are you smiling at?" "Nothin'" -- Carter and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity
Oh...let's not forget the actual Nox themselves. They're sweet ^_^
Nefrayu is may favourite! Especially in these scenes:
Nefrayu: "Nefrayu"
Sam: "Carter"
Jack: "Nooooo...you can't keep him."
and
Nefrayu: "Is that a weapon?"
Jack: "Yes...and you can't have it."
Jack looked like Robin Hood with that bow and arrow
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Hammer - DANIELite, JACKette, TEAL'Conian, KAWler, FERling and GM of the Stargate Command RPG
"Colonel O'Neill, what the HELL are you doing?!" "IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACKSWING??!" -- Hammond and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "I'm telling ya Teal'c, if we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it...lose it, it means crazy, nuts, bonzo, to lose control of one's faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal...WACKO!" -- O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity ¦ "What are you smiling at?" "Nothin'" -- Carter and O'Neill, Window Of Opportunity
padders
Hehe i liked the "you can't have him" line.
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Hehe i liked the "you can't have him" line.
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