1.06 : Angel Dark, Demon Bright

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Dylan (Kevin Sorbo) is faced with a difficult decision when Andromeda slipstreams back in time -- days before the climatic battle of the Nietzschean Revolution where the Commonwealth was defeated and the Nietzschean Alliance was destroyed.

WRITTEN BY ROBERT HEWITT WOLFE
DIRECTED BY ALLAN EASTMAN

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I said that Double Helix was the best so far, well it's been bumped to 2nd place.

This was an episode for both Dylan and Tyr and both did really great jobs. (For those Beka fans, it looks like next weeks is all hers.) Actually I'd have to say that everyone did a really good job this week.

Harper: His little spiel about the battle of Witchhead Nebula was really priceless and so was Tyr's response to it. I liked how Dylan, after listening to Harper, turned to Tyr and asked for a translation. Putting it that way was a little more diplomatic than asking for someone to tell him the 'truth'. Anyone watching feel as though in the end when Harper is watching what his little device did that he finally realized what it actually meant? The death of 100,000 people.

Trance: She's not a dummy, that's for sure. Anyone who can figure out what Harper was planning and later logically talk Tyr out of eliminating her, has my respect. I really liked the scenes with the Bonsai and using it as a way of showing what had just happened and why it was necessary.

Rev: Always comes through in the end with some relevant quotes to try to ease Dylan's mind. His description of why the Magog have no difficulty believing in God was superb, IMHO. Paraphrasing: We also believe that God made nightmares, for he made the Magog.

Beka: Well she wasn't in this one much, but I was kind of curious about what the writer's are going to do with her and Tyr. For one thing when he put his hand on her shoulder and kept it there for a few seconds, it didn't look odd - just affectionate. And then to make the comment about how he could also cook. Well I can see 'shipper' written all over that one.

Tyr: Not much I can say except he did a wonderful job. BTW his voice is spectacular. It was almost heartbreaking to see him have to go through everything that he was put through in this episode. It was far more emotional than Double Helix and made me feel for him even more. It's interesting to note, I think, that Dylan has Rev to help to soothe his conscious. Tyr has Dylan.

Dylan: Also some truly fine moments. I think he brought it across quite well what it is like to have to make the kinds of decisions he had to make here. It isn't easy, nor should it be and he makes that evident in this episode. To be honest (I'm a boob, I know it.) when he said "Behold, I'm the destroyer of worlds." I was tearing up, he made me feel the emotion of the moment.

I know a lot of people have complained about the graphics used in the space shots, but I've got to say that I've not really seen them as being that much inferior to a lot of the other shows on TV. I think one of the most beautiful scenes I've seen thus far was in this ... when Andromeda comes out of the cloud for her running of the gauntlet and the light shines behind her was really excellent.

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Yes this was a good episode.. just found it on a tape so first time i have watched it.

What i found a litle weird was that Dylan never even seemed to consider staying at that time period. He did the whole half hearted how is my wife thing but that was it. He has been seperated from her for what, a month i would guess and he never even considered trying to go and find her. um... whatever.... but i would think that he and andromeda would want to make a stand there, destroy all the nietchians and try and start from there. the bit about the new powers immerging, well possibly but still it wouldn't it be better to start from there?

 

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I kind of took it that the chances were that if Andromeda and Hunt would have stayed, it would have made things worse. The Nietscheans were ahead when the battle began and because they still had some strength left when the battle was over, they were able to keep the Magog at bay somewhat. The Commonwealth was probably too poorly manned by that time to do anything but make a half-hearted effort at doing so giving the Magog free reign to overrun the galaxy.

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so you are saying it was:

a) do nothing and let nietzchians take control
b) destroy all the nietzchians and let Magog take control

i guess that makes sense but i don't know....

also time travel appears pretty easy from this..is it something they are going to be able to repeat i wonder..

 

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Me? I'd rather have the Neitscheans in control rather than the Magog.

As for doing it again, well if Trance is let in the hot seat again maybe.

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hehe i never thought about that and Trance... interesting..

so trance saves dylans life by causing sam to move him from the black hole thus allowing trance to... agghh i hate time travel!

Um interesting questions about Rev Bem and his um.... pacifism by this episode.

 

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Certainly a 'tangled web'.

You're right about time travel stories. They generally make for some interesting plot developments or just change one's perspective on things a bit.

How much of our past can one change without totally disrupting the future and will that change be for the better?

Was it inevitable (destiny) that the Commonwealth lose and the lesser of the two evils, more or less, take control so that even if Dylan had not made the decision he did, the Commonwealth would have been descimated anyway leaving the Magog to rule? Or maybe some species even worse than them?

Adversity adds spice.

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but did he actually have any choice... they knew what the future was could they actually do anything about it.

There argument was "we know that there are 3 times as many ships as there should be... we can destroy them to make it right in the future".

interesting but istn't what happened more like ... "they will do this thus the future is x".

So you have a circle.

The future is X --> Dylan does Y because the future is X --> Y causes X.

interesting.... but a paradox of course

um... is rev bem still a pacifist or did that somewhere get lost in this episode when he recommended to Dylan killing all those thousands of people?

 

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Did Rev actually recommend killing all those people? I don't remember his exact wording right now except when he's explaining to Dylan about God.

Is his function to serve as Dylan's conscience or just as someone who can give Dylan another view point? Probably ought to take this to the Rev Bem forum, eh?

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<center>Originally posted by padders </center>

um... is rev bem still a pacifist or did that somewhere get lost in this episode when he recommended to Dylan killing all those thousands of people?

I think that when Dylan asks Rev for advice, he tells Dylan what he truly believes, but when he approaches Dylan as his conscience he will say whatever is necessary to help Dylan make the choice he knows is the only one Dylan can live with.

In this case, no matter what Dylan did, "all those thousands of people" (or maybe some other "all those thousands of people") would die, so it was necessary for Dylan to make the right choice for him. Even though it looks like Rev told Dylan to kill them (in violation of his own pacifism), he was just helping Dylan realize that he could live with this decision better than with the alternatives.

 

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In this case, I think that Rev was also thinking of the timeline that they had just left and how, just maybe, it was destiny.

We don't know. If the Andromeda had stayed and helped with the fight instead of doing what it did, maybe something would have happened that would have had the same affect even to the point of launching the Andromeda forward through time back to where it was originally.

I think I'm getting dizzy here.

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makes sense i guess going to have to watch rev bem and his pacifism, it is a belief that is hard to remain consistant with.

 

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I think it's going to be tough row to hoe for him. Being as there are only a limited number of crew for Andromeda and it is a warship and they are constantly running into situations where sometimes fighting is necessary, his beliefs may have to be stretched quite often.

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or adjusted i would hope... we shalle see

 

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