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Transcript from AndromedaTV.com's chat with
Joe Reinkemeyer http://www.andromedatv.com
Wednesday, December 13, 2000
MODERATOR: Hello, everybody!
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Hi, everyone!
MODERATOR: Welcome to our live chat with Joe Reinkemeyer!
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I just want to say "Hi" to everyone, and I'm flattered that everyone is logging into the chat room. First I want to say that I'm part of a writing team. My writing partner is Matt Kiene. We've written shows together before -- L.A. Law, Law & Order and Space, Above and Beyond. And then Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Now, we're working on Andromeda. The writing staff met for the first time on Nov. 30 of 1999. I was there on that day. Actually, Ashley Miller and Zack just stopped by to say hello. (Zack just said "Howwwwdy Hoooo!")
LadyMaigrey: Hello Joe, it's nice to finally meet you [sorta]. So you've got the first season under your belt - how do you feel right now?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I feel great! Robert Wolfe has put together a great staff and created a hit television show. It's great to be a part of it.
jentii: LittleSue1 wants to know: In "Double Helix," Tyr told Dylan that he was always on his side. Since you are the co-author of this episode and there is a heated debate regarding this issue, did Tyr really mean that? Or was he simply trying to convince Dylan of his sincerity since his plans failed? To win at all costs?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Well the thing to keep in mind is that Nietzscheans always act in their self interest. In the course of the episode, Tyr says a lot of things, but is doing something else. I think it's fair to say he did that consistently throughout the episode.
kodiak pride: Do you like your job?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I love my job! I used to be a lawyer before I was a TV writer. But that experience was a lot like sticking red-hot needles in your eyes. This is a lot better. I can also say that among the TV writing staffs I've been on, this has been the most enjoyable working experience. Robert Wolfe is by far the best organized and most considerate show runner that I've worked for. He really works hard to make sure that morale is high on the writing staff.
CJ AEGIS 1: In regards to High Guard uniforms, are their different classes based on how formal the functions of the day are? Would the black uniform be of a lower formality and more of a combat uniform and the red be a more formal one? Or is it a case of just grab one out of the closet?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I don't know that a rigid hierarchy has been picked for this. From a production standpoint, we tried to make the white uniform the most formal uniform. Kinda like dress whites in the Navy. But Dylan looked a little like Super Dave Osborne. So I would say it just depends on the episode.
jentii: Can you tell us if you have a favorite episode so far, and if you do, which one is it?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: We get to see some of the episodes in advance, and of course we read all the scripts. I would say, based on scripts so far, my favorite episode will be the season finale, which is called "Its Hour Come Round At Last," written by Robert Wolfe. In terms of my favorite episode that has been filmed but not aired, it would be called "The Mathematics of Tears." In that episode, the story is by Zack and Ashley, and written by Matt and me. In terms of my history - going from a lawyer to a TV show writer - Matt and I wrote a spec L.A. Law script; the show ended up buying one of the story lines. They later brought us in to pitch other stories. They liked our story ideas so much, they hired us on staff. We got on staff about a year after Matt and I left the law firm we worked at. Matt and I met at the law firm.
jentii: LittleSue1 wants to know: Which character do you find the easiest to write for?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: All our actors are incredible. They started out that way. Of course, Dylan is our tentpole character. But I also enjoy writing for Trance, Tyr and Rev Bem. Beka, Rommie, and Harper are awesome as well. Matt and I hope to write episodes that will explore their characters as much as we have for Trance, Tyr and Rev Bem.
LadyMaigrey: "The Honey Offering" - being a Nietzschean quote - hints this will be a Niet ep. Is this another "Tyr thrust in with his own kind and having to deal with it" kind of episode?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: That's very clever of you to realize "The Honey Offering" deals with Nietzscheans...it's actually a chapter in Nietzsche's "Thus Spake Zarathustra." Tyr is in it, but I don't want to give away too much more.
Fast Eddie: So Joe... What can you tell us that is new and that you can talk about (i.e., Trance's people)?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: The story of Trance's people is obviously about -- oh, wait, a sunspot interrupted me! Oh no, it's a huge solar storm, there's lots of sunspots!
HeroicFool: Ok, I realize this question has about zero chance of being answered, but here goes... Does Trance have the ability to control or influence another person's thoughts through any kind of telepathic power? ;-)
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I don't want to give away anything, but there's an upcoming episode called "Forced Perspective" where some of your curiosity will be satisfied. I think the fans are catching on already that Trance may be more than she seems. And I emphasize _may be_.
jacktii: LadyMaigrey says: What can you tell us about "Forced Perspective?" Besides that it's 45 minutes of television
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I can tell you that Dylan and Trance go on a mission together. We find out something about Dylan's backstory, which suggests that he is less than the Boy Scout that he appears to be. It's a really nice episode because the character is forced to confront a little darker choice than happens in some of our episodes.
CJ AEGIS 1: What would be your favorite scene in the episodes that have aired up to this point?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Well, I'll speak to the episodes that I've written so that I don't end up slighting anyone. One of my favorite scenes is in "Fateful Lightning" where Rev Bem tells Nassan that she can kill him, but asks if she will at least listen to him for an hour. When he's finished talking, she says, "I haven't heard anything that doesn't make me want to kill you." And Rev Bem says, "Yes, but you did go an hour without killing me. And if you went an hour, maybe you could go a day, then a week, then maybe, just maybe, a lifetime."
CaptnIvanova: Q- How does it feel to be consistently part of a show that is easily several tenths of a rating point above Xena: Warrior Princess from week to week in the ratings, is a smash hit, and seems to have seven year legs? Initially, when I saw your credits, I noticed Space, Above and Beyond, and since I see that series as having the SF gems of wisdom most Heinlein inspired, almost as if it was TV's version of Starship Troopers, I was surprised, for I thought you were one of Paramount's finest.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Space, Above and Beyond was a great show. It's too bad it was canceled after the first year. What was great about it was that it was a war show set in the future; in that way it is like Starship Troopers. Ironically, several months after the show was canceled, the movie Independence Day came out, which was also about a war against aliens, set in the future. And it was very successful. It's too bad we couldn't have benefited from that success. With regard to what it's like to work on a hit show, it beats the hell out of working on a flop. I hope we can be a long-running success, and so far, it sure seems like it's going that way.
kodiak pride: What was your strangest experience with the other writers?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: That would have to be when Zack and Ashley smeared their entire bodies with candied yams. Oh, wait... Did I say that out loud? ;-)
Arkie: What was your inspiration or motivation for "Fateful Lightning?" I thought you and Matt nailed the troubled teen thing well.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Thank you! We liked exploring the idea of what would happen after the Commonwealth and most of civilization had broken down. In particular, what would happen if the educational structures failed. Part of the inspiration was certainly "Lord of the Flies;" part of it was one of my favorite movies, The Man Who Would Be King. We combined elements from the two of those for this episode. I'm glad you liked it!
huntsfan: So, when will we be done with reruns? I really want to see these episodes since you are teasing us so.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: All our episodes are like fine wines -- they get better with age. If you liked going to Disneyland once, wouldn't you like going there again? Seriously, though, the reruns give the TV audience a bit of a breather. Many new fans are tuning in for the first time, and this allows them to catch up...with YOU, our devoted fans. I also like watching the reruns, because even though I'm on staff, I catch nuances in the performances, direction, and writing that I didn't see the first time. Sometimes, those nuances suggest new episode ideas.
LadyMaigrey: So who wears the 'Medal of Honour' this week? We hear that you and Ash tend to share it often.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: This is true. Although Ashley is the gold medalist, I am often a close silver. As a consequence, our handicap is lower than some of the other writers. However, in a bizarre development, which is even now breaking news, Ashley may have actually broken the medallion. We are asking crack restoration teams from the Smithsonian and the Vatican Library to see if this valuable world culture heritage icon can be restored to its original grandeur.
LadyMaigrey: How was your wrap party in Vancouver? Did you have a fantastic time?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Absolutely! It was great meeting all the actors in a social setting, as well as many of our guest stars that, because we're here in L.A., we didn't get to meet during filming. As well as our incredibly hardworking crew. Also, we discovered there's a new drink that I've only seen in Vancouver. A Cran-Genie. Or it might be called a Cran-Tini.
Arkie: What is something that may have been left out of an episode you and Matt wrote that you hated to see cut?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Well, that's part of being a TV writer. It's a cooperative medium. Sometimes, when you're done writing a script, it's like giving birth to a child. You're so proud. Otherwise, you wouldn't turn it in. And yet, just like your own child, it's hard to be objective. That's why it's great to have other writers on the staff who you respect, who can tell you what's good, what might be missing the mark, and what might be going on too long. Maybe if someday they make the special DVD writer's cut of the episode, we can reinsert all the missing scenes. We may have to leave that to the show's biographers. ;-)
CJ AEGIS 1: What do you belive are the most important elements for a good enjoyable Sci-fi episode and show?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I think it's the same elements that you would have in any other drama. I recently went to a Humanitas Seminar with Ed Zwick, the creator of Thirtysomething. And also the director of movies like Glory and Legends of the Fall. He said that drama is when characters are forced to make difficult choices in a moral dilemma. And that bad writing is when any crazy old thing just happens without reason...one after the other. That certainly applies, for me at least, to our show and sci fi writing in general.
MODERATOR: Ok, everyone, we've got about 10 minutes left with Joe tonight, so send in any questions that you've still got for him!
CJ AEGIS 1: What "guest" character have you found the most interesting?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: So far, one of our best guest character performances came from Monika Schnarre. She was a regular on BeastMaster and plays the role of a Commonwealth ship commander in the upcoming episode "The Mathematics of Tears." Also, there's a very interesting character in an upcoming episode called "Harper 2.0." Rolff Moeller plays Jeger. He's about 6'7" and speaks with a German accent. Ach Ya!
jacktii: Timothy Bartik asks: A post by Zack Stentz mentioned that one of the upcoming episodes was written by Walter Jon Williams, a well-known science fiction writer. Although I think the staff writers for Andromeda are doing a fine job, it would be helpful to periodically have a show written by an "outsider" science fiction writer who might offer a fresh take on the Andromeda universe. The original Star Trek, for example, used scripts by Harlan Ellison and Theodore Sturgeon. Are there any plans to try to get other science fiction writers to occasionally write scripts for Andromeda?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Yes! Along with Walter, we have Steve Barnes, who wrote the upcoming episode "The Sum of Its Parts." This is based on a story by Celeste Chan Wolfe, Robert's wife. It's turned out very nicely. Trance's performance will move you to open sobs. I also want to say that we also hope that TV writers will grow to achieve the type of star status in the sci fi community as many of the novelists have.
CaptnIvanova: Q- Surely there is a long story-arc contemplated, like a drawn-out role playing game whereby Dylan Hunt is two thirds of the way to his cherished goal...of restoring the Commonwealth. Before that point in time in a future season, could we possibly see his fiance Sara again?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Everyone knows the future contains multiple possibilities. ;-)
MODERATOR: Ok, everyone, that about does it for this evening's chat. I'd like to thank Joe Reinkemeyer for stopping by and sharing his personal background information with us, as well as offering us new insight into Andromeda and what's in store for all of us in future episodes!
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I just want to thank all the people who participated in tonight's chat, as well as all the other people who log onto andromedatv.com. Obviously, we could never have the success on the show without such a hard-core, loyal and devoted fan base. It was really great meeting so many of you online. This is the end -- Let's bring it!
Cheers,
Joe Reinkemeyer http://www.andromedatv.com
Wednesday, December 13, 2000
MODERATOR: Hello, everybody!
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Hi, everyone!
MODERATOR: Welcome to our live chat with Joe Reinkemeyer!
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I just want to say "Hi" to everyone, and I'm flattered that everyone is logging into the chat room. First I want to say that I'm part of a writing team. My writing partner is Matt Kiene. We've written shows together before -- L.A. Law, Law & Order and Space, Above and Beyond. And then Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Now, we're working on Andromeda. The writing staff met for the first time on Nov. 30 of 1999. I was there on that day. Actually, Ashley Miller and Zack just stopped by to say hello. (Zack just said "Howwwwdy Hoooo!")
LadyMaigrey: Hello Joe, it's nice to finally meet you [sorta]. So you've got the first season under your belt - how do you feel right now?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I feel great! Robert Wolfe has put together a great staff and created a hit television show. It's great to be a part of it.
jentii: LittleSue1 wants to know: In "Double Helix," Tyr told Dylan that he was always on his side. Since you are the co-author of this episode and there is a heated debate regarding this issue, did Tyr really mean that? Or was he simply trying to convince Dylan of his sincerity since his plans failed? To win at all costs?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Well the thing to keep in mind is that Nietzscheans always act in their self interest. In the course of the episode, Tyr says a lot of things, but is doing something else. I think it's fair to say he did that consistently throughout the episode.
kodiak pride: Do you like your job?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I love my job! I used to be a lawyer before I was a TV writer. But that experience was a lot like sticking red-hot needles in your eyes. This is a lot better. I can also say that among the TV writing staffs I've been on, this has been the most enjoyable working experience. Robert Wolfe is by far the best organized and most considerate show runner that I've worked for. He really works hard to make sure that morale is high on the writing staff.
CJ AEGIS 1: In regards to High Guard uniforms, are their different classes based on how formal the functions of the day are? Would the black uniform be of a lower formality and more of a combat uniform and the red be a more formal one? Or is it a case of just grab one out of the closet?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I don't know that a rigid hierarchy has been picked for this. From a production standpoint, we tried to make the white uniform the most formal uniform. Kinda like dress whites in the Navy. But Dylan looked a little like Super Dave Osborne. So I would say it just depends on the episode.
jentii: Can you tell us if you have a favorite episode so far, and if you do, which one is it?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: We get to see some of the episodes in advance, and of course we read all the scripts. I would say, based on scripts so far, my favorite episode will be the season finale, which is called "Its Hour Come Round At Last," written by Robert Wolfe. In terms of my favorite episode that has been filmed but not aired, it would be called "The Mathematics of Tears." In that episode, the story is by Zack and Ashley, and written by Matt and me. In terms of my history - going from a lawyer to a TV show writer - Matt and I wrote a spec L.A. Law script; the show ended up buying one of the story lines. They later brought us in to pitch other stories. They liked our story ideas so much, they hired us on staff. We got on staff about a year after Matt and I left the law firm we worked at. Matt and I met at the law firm.
jentii: LittleSue1 wants to know: Which character do you find the easiest to write for?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: All our actors are incredible. They started out that way. Of course, Dylan is our tentpole character. But I also enjoy writing for Trance, Tyr and Rev Bem. Beka, Rommie, and Harper are awesome as well. Matt and I hope to write episodes that will explore their characters as much as we have for Trance, Tyr and Rev Bem.
LadyMaigrey: "The Honey Offering" - being a Nietzschean quote - hints this will be a Niet ep. Is this another "Tyr thrust in with his own kind and having to deal with it" kind of episode?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: That's very clever of you to realize "The Honey Offering" deals with Nietzscheans...it's actually a chapter in Nietzsche's "Thus Spake Zarathustra." Tyr is in it, but I don't want to give away too much more.
Fast Eddie: So Joe... What can you tell us that is new and that you can talk about (i.e., Trance's people)?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: The story of Trance's people is obviously about -- oh, wait, a sunspot interrupted me! Oh no, it's a huge solar storm, there's lots of sunspots!
HeroicFool: Ok, I realize this question has about zero chance of being answered, but here goes... Does Trance have the ability to control or influence another person's thoughts through any kind of telepathic power? ;-)
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I don't want to give away anything, but there's an upcoming episode called "Forced Perspective" where some of your curiosity will be satisfied. I think the fans are catching on already that Trance may be more than she seems. And I emphasize _may be_.
jacktii: LadyMaigrey says: What can you tell us about "Forced Perspective?" Besides that it's 45 minutes of television
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I can tell you that Dylan and Trance go on a mission together. We find out something about Dylan's backstory, which suggests that he is less than the Boy Scout that he appears to be. It's a really nice episode because the character is forced to confront a little darker choice than happens in some of our episodes.
CJ AEGIS 1: What would be your favorite scene in the episodes that have aired up to this point?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Well, I'll speak to the episodes that I've written so that I don't end up slighting anyone. One of my favorite scenes is in "Fateful Lightning" where Rev Bem tells Nassan that she can kill him, but asks if she will at least listen to him for an hour. When he's finished talking, she says, "I haven't heard anything that doesn't make me want to kill you." And Rev Bem says, "Yes, but you did go an hour without killing me. And if you went an hour, maybe you could go a day, then a week, then maybe, just maybe, a lifetime."
CaptnIvanova: Q- How does it feel to be consistently part of a show that is easily several tenths of a rating point above Xena: Warrior Princess from week to week in the ratings, is a smash hit, and seems to have seven year legs? Initially, when I saw your credits, I noticed Space, Above and Beyond, and since I see that series as having the SF gems of wisdom most Heinlein inspired, almost as if it was TV's version of Starship Troopers, I was surprised, for I thought you were one of Paramount's finest.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Space, Above and Beyond was a great show. It's too bad it was canceled after the first year. What was great about it was that it was a war show set in the future; in that way it is like Starship Troopers. Ironically, several months after the show was canceled, the movie Independence Day came out, which was also about a war against aliens, set in the future. And it was very successful. It's too bad we couldn't have benefited from that success. With regard to what it's like to work on a hit show, it beats the hell out of working on a flop. I hope we can be a long-running success, and so far, it sure seems like it's going that way.
kodiak pride: What was your strangest experience with the other writers?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: That would have to be when Zack and Ashley smeared their entire bodies with candied yams. Oh, wait... Did I say that out loud? ;-)
Arkie: What was your inspiration or motivation for "Fateful Lightning?" I thought you and Matt nailed the troubled teen thing well.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Thank you! We liked exploring the idea of what would happen after the Commonwealth and most of civilization had broken down. In particular, what would happen if the educational structures failed. Part of the inspiration was certainly "Lord of the Flies;" part of it was one of my favorite movies, The Man Who Would Be King. We combined elements from the two of those for this episode. I'm glad you liked it!
huntsfan: So, when will we be done with reruns? I really want to see these episodes since you are teasing us so.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: All our episodes are like fine wines -- they get better with age. If you liked going to Disneyland once, wouldn't you like going there again? Seriously, though, the reruns give the TV audience a bit of a breather. Many new fans are tuning in for the first time, and this allows them to catch up...with YOU, our devoted fans. I also like watching the reruns, because even though I'm on staff, I catch nuances in the performances, direction, and writing that I didn't see the first time. Sometimes, those nuances suggest new episode ideas.
LadyMaigrey: So who wears the 'Medal of Honour' this week? We hear that you and Ash tend to share it often.
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: This is true. Although Ashley is the gold medalist, I am often a close silver. As a consequence, our handicap is lower than some of the other writers. However, in a bizarre development, which is even now breaking news, Ashley may have actually broken the medallion. We are asking crack restoration teams from the Smithsonian and the Vatican Library to see if this valuable world culture heritage icon can be restored to its original grandeur.
LadyMaigrey: How was your wrap party in Vancouver? Did you have a fantastic time?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Absolutely! It was great meeting all the actors in a social setting, as well as many of our guest stars that, because we're here in L.A., we didn't get to meet during filming. As well as our incredibly hardworking crew. Also, we discovered there's a new drink that I've only seen in Vancouver. A Cran-Genie. Or it might be called a Cran-Tini.
Arkie: What is something that may have been left out of an episode you and Matt wrote that you hated to see cut?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Well, that's part of being a TV writer. It's a cooperative medium. Sometimes, when you're done writing a script, it's like giving birth to a child. You're so proud. Otherwise, you wouldn't turn it in. And yet, just like your own child, it's hard to be objective. That's why it's great to have other writers on the staff who you respect, who can tell you what's good, what might be missing the mark, and what might be going on too long. Maybe if someday they make the special DVD writer's cut of the episode, we can reinsert all the missing scenes. We may have to leave that to the show's biographers. ;-)
CJ AEGIS 1: What do you belive are the most important elements for a good enjoyable Sci-fi episode and show?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I think it's the same elements that you would have in any other drama. I recently went to a Humanitas Seminar with Ed Zwick, the creator of Thirtysomething. And also the director of movies like Glory and Legends of the Fall. He said that drama is when characters are forced to make difficult choices in a moral dilemma. And that bad writing is when any crazy old thing just happens without reason...one after the other. That certainly applies, for me at least, to our show and sci fi writing in general.
MODERATOR: Ok, everyone, we've got about 10 minutes left with Joe tonight, so send in any questions that you've still got for him!
CJ AEGIS 1: What "guest" character have you found the most interesting?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: So far, one of our best guest character performances came from Monika Schnarre. She was a regular on BeastMaster and plays the role of a Commonwealth ship commander in the upcoming episode "The Mathematics of Tears." Also, there's a very interesting character in an upcoming episode called "Harper 2.0." Rolff Moeller plays Jeger. He's about 6'7" and speaks with a German accent. Ach Ya!
jacktii: Timothy Bartik asks: A post by Zack Stentz mentioned that one of the upcoming episodes was written by Walter Jon Williams, a well-known science fiction writer. Although I think the staff writers for Andromeda are doing a fine job, it would be helpful to periodically have a show written by an "outsider" science fiction writer who might offer a fresh take on the Andromeda universe. The original Star Trek, for example, used scripts by Harlan Ellison and Theodore Sturgeon. Are there any plans to try to get other science fiction writers to occasionally write scripts for Andromeda?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Yes! Along with Walter, we have Steve Barnes, who wrote the upcoming episode "The Sum of Its Parts." This is based on a story by Celeste Chan Wolfe, Robert's wife. It's turned out very nicely. Trance's performance will move you to open sobs. I also want to say that we also hope that TV writers will grow to achieve the type of star status in the sci fi community as many of the novelists have.
CaptnIvanova: Q- Surely there is a long story-arc contemplated, like a drawn-out role playing game whereby Dylan Hunt is two thirds of the way to his cherished goal...of restoring the Commonwealth. Before that point in time in a future season, could we possibly see his fiance Sara again?
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: Everyone knows the future contains multiple possibilities. ;-)
MODERATOR: Ok, everyone, that about does it for this evening's chat. I'd like to thank Joe Reinkemeyer for stopping by and sharing his personal background information with us, as well as offering us new insight into Andromeda and what's in store for all of us in future episodes!
SPEAKER_Joe_Reinkemeyer: I just want to thank all the people who participated in tonight's chat, as well as all the other people who log onto andromedatv.com. Obviously, we could never have the success on the show without such a hard-core, loyal and devoted fan base. It was really great meeting so many of you online. This is the end -- Let's bring it!
Cheers,