Batman

Annette

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When I first saw this film I thought it very dark and honestly not very good. Whether it was due to my age I just thought it wasn't upto the hype of the time.

Now I'm older I seem to appreciate the film alot more.

I thought Michael Keaton played Batman brilliantly. No-one seems to have been as good as him. Although George Clooney wasn't all that bad.

Anyway thats my opinion whats yours?

Annette.
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Annette, I like your idea of which is the best Batman. Hope you don't mind, but I've pinched it and posted a Poll!

There have been several film Batmans.

Batman and Robin (1949)
black and white serial.

http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0041162


Batman (1966)
The Adam West, Burt Ward campy film with the Joker, the Riddler, Catwoman and the penguin all teamed up together.

http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0060153


Batman (1989)
This the first of the modern BATMAN films is by far the darkest version and in my opinion the best. Burton directs in the style of the dark comic book rather than that of the camp TV series. Keaton is excellent and the best Batman in my opinion. But Jack Nicholson steals every scene as the Joker.

http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0096895


Batman Returns.(1992)
Gotham City faces two criminal menaces; the bizarre Penguin and the slinky, leather clad Catwoman. Can Batman handle two foes at once? Especially when one wants to be Mayor and the other is romantically attracted to Bruce Wayne?

http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0103776


Batman Forever.(1995)
Batman must battle Two-Face and The Riddler with help of an amourous psychologist and a young circus acrobat who becomes his sidekick, Robin.

http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0112462


Batman and Robin.(1997)
The Dark Knight battles his greatest threats yet, Mr Freeze and the venomous Poison Ivy. Batman has more than Gotham City to protect: the youthful eagerness of crimefighting comrades Robin and Batgirl puts them frequently in danger.

http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0118688
 
I think the first two films that were directed by Tim Burton were the best...they had the greatest atmosphere. :D

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WOW, there IS a Batman thread!!

<ahem> I agree that the Burton films were the best, just because I picture Gotham and Batman himself as very dark and mysterious.

Kilmer's Bruce Wayne just didn't fit my mental picture, and the movie didn't do a whole lot for me. Plus, I hate the neon and brighter colors in the last two movies. I did like Jim Carrey, for the most part, as the Riddler, but thought they could have used him better.

I think Clooney would have done a great job, if he had been given a decent script. I just thought the whole idea of that movie stunk. Uma Thurman does a good job though, I thought.

I'd like to see Michael W. Weiss of The Pretender give it a go, but that'll never happen, he's not a big enough name.
 
Originally posted by Prowler-Pilot
I think the first two films that were directed by Tim Burton were the best...they had the greatest atmosphere. :D

Yeah they were. Out of all the films, the first two are the best!
I love the darkside too it all. Tim Burton is cool, and knows how to create that tense, eerie atmosphere in his work.

It's like a dark fairytale :cool:
 
'Batman Returns' for me as my favourite 'Batman' film with the orginal in 2nd place
 
I think my favourites still are the two Tim Burton ones with Michael Keaton. They managed to capture the brooding angst and the dark gloom of Gotham City. And nothing beats the Joker's Lines.

The next one that stands right along these would be Batman Returns which went back to the dark, tortured hero.

The ones in between were fun and very colourful especially with Two-Face and Riddler but they just did not feel very right.
 
I think Bale has been the best, but the others weren't that bad. Clooney fits the bill for Wayne, but Batman... honestly I don't remember the later nineties movies well enough to remember if I liked him or not.
 
I'm still gonna have to go with Kevin Conroy in Mask of the Phantasm.

As for the live action ones, Bale did a brilliant job as the cocky younger Bruce Wayne, but Keaton was great too. One of those castings that probably wasn't obvious but works.
 
Lewis Wilson: "Nooobody remembers us. . ."
Douglas Croft: "Holy has-beens Lewis, nooobody loves us."
Lewis Wilson: "Everybody hates us."
Lewis and Douglas: "We're gonna eat some worms."
 
I've learned of yet another live action Batman. So there's two people who played Batman that I haven't really seen. There's Lewis Wilson in 1943 and Robert Lowry in 1949. Starting to look like Dr. Who

Lewis Wilson
Robert Lowry
Adam West
Michael Keaton
Val Kilmer
George Clooney
Christian Bale
 
There wouldn't necessarily have been anything wrong with Clooney - except his sense of humour might have got in the way - if anyone had bothered to write a script, get a director and cut Robin out. Coming out of the wrap party, Clooney reportedly heard saying, "well, it looks like we killed that franchise" and for a long while he was right.

Movie people aren't necessarily comics people and that's a big mistake. Comics writers don't consider themselves as any less creative than their novel, cinema or TV counterparts and in many cases are much more mature story-tellers, and terrific at pruning their scripts. The stories in comics since about 1970, for almost every mainstream (and specialist) character have been contextually convincing and often scary. Tim Burton understood this. Sam Raimi understood this. Chris Nolan and Bryan Singer understood it. Joel Schumacher wouldn't get it if it arrived on his doorstep in driving an Itmobile and wearing green leotards wearing about its neck a billboard in pink neon proclaiming "Comics Ain't for Kids Anymore".

I mourn the wastage of the Earth's meagre remaining resources that were squandered in the making of those irredemably ill-conceived works.

I have little to say of Carrey that shouldn't be heavily censored, he was a ridiculous choice for the Riddler - the Joker, I might just see, but the Riddler?? - and his over-acting, overly malleable face and upstaging tendencies destroyed any subtlety that Tommy Lee Jones might have been going for. Jones' as Two Face could have been brilliant, poignant and disturbing - the Harvey Dent (D.A.) story is at least as tragic as the Joker's. But that's all there is of note about those two movies, and that was only one of them.

Keaton was excellent. Bale is exceptionally skilled and well served by the both script and director.
 
Has anybody read many of the comics?

I read Year One after watching Mask of The Phantasm (MotP was based on it apparently).

I've since read The Killing Joke and the War Games arc.
 
Let me be the first of thousands to recommend Dark Knight Returns. Killing Joke and Year One, Burton's two movies and Batman Begins owe their existences to Miller, the last owing quite a bit to Tales of the Demon by Denny O Neil and Neal Adams as well.
 

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