Ways to bring back Kirk! (and Spock! and McCoy??)

[Dave]

I think Dax's 2nd or 3rd symbiont actually dated McCoy, so she must be around then somewhere.

There is a bit of a continuity hole there though, because in 'The Host' TNG Dr. Crusher seemed to be unfamiliar with Trills. On the other hand maybe she just wasn't a very good doctor!

 

[Highlander II]

well - i thought that McCoy was something of a xenobiologist - might be wrong there - don't remember

i know Bashir was -- he sort of 'prided' himself on it - b/c he had studied the xenobio so he could work in 'frontier medicine' -- so, he would be the most knowledgable -

maybe Crusher didn't study so much 'xenobio' -- maybe she missed that class/slept through it - you know --- <shrug>

and - well, Dax's host from the time when McCoy was at 'Ole Miss' said that she dated him - not that she told him much --

and McCoy, of course, never mentions trills (b/c i don't think they even into'd them until TNG) --- but - he may not have been told (this is one of those 'wiggle out of the plot hole w/ a good work-around' things!)

 

[Dave]

It's much easier to do that when the edges of the continuity plot-hole are a bit blurred like that!

Is 'Ole Miss' on Earth? This is a medical school, right?

 

[ray gower]

Originally posted by Highlander II
well - i thought that McCoy was something of a xenobiologist - might be wrong there - don't remember

I always put McCoy down as more a xenophobe than biologist.

 

[Highlander II]

Originally posted by Dave
It's much easier to do that when the edges of the continuity plot-hole are a bit blurred like that!

Is 'Ole Miss' on Earth? This is a medical school, right?

hehe --

yeah - 'Ole Miss' - it's Mississippi State U (i think - and i'm sure someone's gonna knock me hard if i'm wrong), so, yeah - it's on Earth -

and i think it has a Med School too --- (no, i don't know everything about all 50 states of the union - so sue me) --

 

[Highlander II]

Originally posted by ray gower

I always put McCoy down as more a xenophobe than biologist.

maybe he was - i knew he was one or the other --- (think i went brain backwards when i wrote that post --ooops!)

 

[Dave]

Re: Xenophobe or Xenobiologist?

We should really stay on subject, but can't he be both?

I think he was meant to be written as a Xenobiologist-type, they all were -- their mission: to explore new worlds, seek out new. . .

but, they did tend to explore new. . . and then kill them!

Of all the cast, McCoy was definitely the most Xenophobic. He was also the one most closed to any change, or anything newfangled -- transporters being one example -- and he never liked Spock showing his Vulcan side.

Anyway, how would you bring back McCoy, considering how old he looked in 'Encounter at Farpoint' TNG?

 

[Highlander II]

umm - well - i dunno --

AND! (this is the biggie) they'd have to put him in digitally - b/c DeForest Kelley has passed -- anyway --

umm - bring him back? when was he born and in school? if Spock can't be around b/c he's not born yet, it would be harder to even get McCoy ---

let me think - i may yet come up w/ something ---

 

[Neo]

Ways for Kirk to return

Ok here are top ways for Kirk to return.
1.) The Return way although kinda ilogical since Romies and Borg wouldn't team up.

2.) Kirk is still in the Nexus and what was with picard was a shadow of kirk.

3.) Lore jumps to a romulan clonning facility and clones kirk the rommies are mad and say that Starfleet used data to infultrate there facility to bring kirk back and battle ensues.

4.) The Dominion clone kirk for some reason.

5.) A new unseen race who can revieve people Revieve kirk and use him to battle the feds.

6.) He should just wake up in the sonic Shower and things just carry on.. (scene from Dallas)

So what way do you think is the best most of them will continue straight from Gens the Dominion one would take place during the war.

 

[Dave]

-->>>> merging with existing thread.

Some different ideas there:

I didn't understand your #1 though.

and #3 is ST:X 'Nemesis' plot.

 

[Dave]

Bring Back Kirk campaign

Apparrently, David Gerrold has now lent his voice to the Bring back Kirk fan campaign.

According to Star Trek magazine there is an interview at the BringBackKirk website, but it doesn't say which one, and there are several different BringBackKirk websites.

 

[markpud]

Haven't we moved on? Do we really need to see Kirk back again?

 

[Tabitha]

This is a very old thread! I don't know how I missed it before.

There are no doubt endless ways to bring back the actors that are still living. I do particularly like the idea of bringing an actor back as his original character's ancestor. Of all the other people who have the potential to come back, Kirk is probably the one who I would most like to see.

I did get a belly laugh out of this one:

(7) Tom Paris writes him into Holo-program as Captain Proton's new sidekick.

 

[Dave]

This IS an old thread, but the campaign to bring back Kirk is an old one too, and yet those fans don't go away (just do a "bring back kirk" google search)

They are even more obsessive than the fans who want the original 'Battlestar Galactica' brought back (or maybe it's the same people )

I was very surprised that David Gerrold has joined the campaign though. Personally, like Markpud, I also think we have moved on from that.

The things that disappoint me more about Trek at the moment is that we won't see the Cardassians again, we won't find out what happened to Spock after he went to Romulus, and that Wesley seems to have returned

 

[Tabitha]

Yeah, I agree. Although my opinion of Enterprise has been slowly rising this season, it is a bit disappointing that there are no more tv or film outlets for the 'present' of Starfleet, as seen in DS9, Voyager and TNG.

One would think that moving away from conspicuous nods to the show's 'future' would be a good idea. I have the feeling that any arcs with ancestors of future characters would only serve to remind us of the more enjoyable series that came before this one, and that Enterprise would be better served by forging its own course, as it is doing at the moment with the long Xindi arc.

That said, considering the Vulcans are such major players in Enterprise, I don't think it would be too jarring to have one of Spock's forebears show it.

 

[ray gower]

Mentioning Enterprise, it strikes me, with their predilection for time bopping episodes, it can only be a matter of time before they meet Kirk, Spock, JLP and themselves (probably in a tea shoppe)!

 

[Dave]

I was thinking that you were being a little harsh on the new kid.

TOS had several trips back to the sixties. TNG and DS9 had plenty of trips back in time. Even the number of trips forward in time in ENT is still not that great (TNG and VOY both had them) but it is easier for them to do, because we already know the future. I guess that the time travel stories are higher per season on ENT, but then the 'temporal cold war' is meant to be a running theme of ENT.

But you are correct, if the actors are still breathing they will turn up at some point, either as time travellers or great grandparents. Rick Berman has said that he has even discussed such stories already. He's probably just not desperate enough yet!

I would still like to see the old 'Starfleet Academy days' idea with the younger Kirk, Spock and Finnegan. Maybe Archer and crewman Daniels could turn up there. But I agree with Tabitha that ENT should really be making its own history.

 

[ray gower]

As we are generally trundling forward in time in Enterprise, would they not be great-grandchildren?