Suliban based on Taliban!? & Enterprise copies Farscape!!

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I found all this all on Ain't it Cool News.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=10275

What I found most interesting about this pilot was that the Suliban, a shadowy organization engaged in a “temporal cold warâ€, are very loosely based on the Taliban. They wanted a shadowy, covert organization and used the Taliban as the basis. No lie, Brannon’s admitted it, too. How’s that for timing? I have to wonder if Berman and Braga will end up carrying this out into some kind of parable as the series progresses. Do I give them too much credit? Maybe. After all of their talk of wanting to take Trek into new directions, Berman and Braga for the most part, give us what they’ve given us all along. It’d be nice to see them tackle some current issues in a way that perhaps isn’t so thinly veiled.

I’m a huge Farscape fan, and I’d swear B and B have been taking notes. Witness: an undercurrent of a relationship between Archer and T’Pol, a human and an alien with repressed emotions; sexy alien dancers at an intergalactic ***** bar; gratuitous sex-talk between characters; an even more gratuitous scene between T’Pol and Tucker in which they wipe some kind of “decontaminant†all over one another’s nearly naked bodies (by the way, although it only features two actors, there are actually four stars of this scene…you do the math…it must have been awfully cold in there); another gratuitous kissing scene where one character must “know†another through a lip-lock; a far less rigid group of central characters; more bizarre aliens and fewer alien “headpieces†and who knows what else I might’ve missed – I have to admit, I kind of mentally tuned out in the final twenty or so minutes. To the Scapers out there, I didn’t say they took good notes. Braga says that Farscape is “a lot of fun – wacky-doodle sci-fi†- whatever that means. I don’t imagine he pays much attention to the competition that wins the Saturn Award.

B & B don't seem to deny that this is true. You would expect them to be ashamed of their lack of originality.

Well, what do you think?
 
Not sure about the Taliban stuff til I see it, but as for Farscape..I like it, so if this is similar in tone, it will be good, but not what we're used to in Trek...
 
certainly not what we are used to at all.... mmmmmmm
 
The 'Fight or Flight' story plot about harvesting body fluids from aliens is similar to the sci-fi series 'V'. It must be hard to find new storylines after 35 years of Trek, but I heard that they no longer have the policy of accepting scripts from people without an agent. They desperately need to have some originality. Both TNG and VOY were accused in early season episodes of plagiarism of older Trek scripts and one way of getting new ideas was that very policy.
 
if they dont get some original scripts they will soon find this series will die
 
Some stories go round and round the series, like the armbands that made you super strong appeared in both Stargate and Farscape - identical idea but just played out differently. This is always going to happen to some degree, the shows have to deal with the same issues, same moral dilemas and do that in different ways, likewise they will sometimes use the same bit of sci-fi to deal with different types of dilemas. It is when you have the same sci-fi dealing with the same dilemas that you have a real problem :)
 
Like being lost in unkown space.....
 
Rick Berman confirms Taliban inspiration and Bakula talks about moral tales.

Rick Berman has confirmed that the Taliban inspiration for Suliban, although the creators came up with the idea long before the events of 11 September 2001.

Scott Bakula thinks that it continues Star Trek's history of being known for stories that raise contemporary issues. TOS drew on concerns over raicism and the Vietnam War, allegorical stories he holds in high regard.

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"When Archer and Mayweather find themselves in what is in effect a space version of an inernment camp surrounded by Suliban, they're forced to confront their feelings," Bakula told the official Quantum Leap web site. "Obviously this mirrors some of the experiences we've been reading about with regards to encoutering Arab-Americans since 11 Semptember."

"Certainly the events of 11 Semptember have and will continue to affect the writers and producers of Enterprise and any opprotunity to expand upon our emotional and spiritual landscape is time well spent."
 

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