Incoming Wormholes??

[cookie_jar]

This may sound confusing but I cant think of another way to put it.

I was watching D&C last night and noticed that when the the tok'ra were dialling the gate from vorash (when the persus guy was coming through for the treaty thing) and they showed the gate on earth the incoming wormhole was kinda dialling in. But on WOO when there was the incoming wormhole at the beginning, the gate just kawooshed with hardly any warning. And the same at the end of Watergate.

What I'm getting at (yes, there is a point) is that how come the gate, when there is an incoming wormhole, does different things? Shouldn't it always just kawoosh with not much warning. Does anyone know if there is a reason or do you think its just an error???

(did that make sense??)

 

[Rowan]

'Kawoosh'

One of two things that I can see:

#1: The variences of quantum math and physics.

#2: Non-consistant quality control on the part of the writers.

Either works.

 

[cookie_jar]

#2

Lets say number 2 shall we becasue i know nothing about quantum math and physics.

 

[spookypumpkin]

well i no a little about quantum math, and all i can think of is that the signal conecting the two stargates would be transmitted slower than the matter stream, as the matter stream is not travelling through a vacuum....

but the dialing mechanism has to work before the gate can receive matter, so the gate receiving matter would have to "dial" faster than the one sending it. Also due to the fact that it IS receiving matter, it would probably already be calibrated, and would not need to go through the entire dialling sequence.

not bad for a sixteen year old, hey??

 

[shu_hunter]

the recieving stargate must only know it's getting an incoming wormhole after the outgoing stargate had dialed out, right? it's like dialing a telephone(telephones are perfect for explainig the stargate ): the telephone of the person getting the call only rings after the number's been dialed because how would the phone know it was the one being dialed to intil after the sequence was completed? it doesnt make sense that the chevrons on the recieving gate would light up at all as it was being dialed. i probably could have said all this a lot shorter, but oh well.

 

[hyacintheve]

I haven't seen these episodes in a while. But I thought at the end of Watergate there was some kind of warning because O'Neill tells Teal'c they they should duck when the event horizon (or whatever Carter calls it) jets out?

I do however opt for Rowan's #2 explanation.

 

[DragonBaby]

Yeah I just saw Watergate again today and you could hear dialling noises in the background. It was very brief tho so the phone explanation makes sense, that once the last chevron is input it makes some kind of connection but the wormhole connects almost instantly, doesnt go thru the whole dialling procedure.

 

[spookypumpkin]

Originally posted by shu_hunter
(telephones are perfect for explainig the stargate )

well, kinda, you also need to take into account the factor of travel through a vacuum.

The initial "signal" must be electromagnetic, but that still only has a certain speed of travel

 

[Rowan]

Watergate

Actually, in that episode, I think Jack heard the inner ring lock just before the 'kawoosh effect'.

 

[spookypumpkin]

im not sure the whole stargate thing would work in real life anyway...
(sorry to burst anyone's bubble!!))

coz to establish an artificial wormhole with enough integrity to send a constant matter stream <let alone a human being> safely, it would require soooo much energy.

in 1969...



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they powered the gate using two car engines...
to power a wormhole (not even strong enough to send a human through) would take about a quarter of the energy stored in our sun, we would have to work out how to store and use that sort of energy (i.e how to destroy a star usefully and safely) before even trying to create a wormhole.

the easiest method to create and sustain one would be the use of a black hole, as shown in matter of time, and that is VERY dangerous!