Losses At The Battle Of Wolf 359

[Neo]

I know 39 starships were lost and roughly 11,000 people were killed at the battle of Wolf 359.
But who can name the ships and their starship class that were destroyed by the Borg at Wolf 359?

 

[Dave]

Do you have the answer? Or is this just a fun speculation type of question?

In reality, they pulled out nearly every model that they had ever built in Star Trek's history to produce the scenes in 'Emissary' even really weird ships that had been built, but never been used.

 

[Neo]

arrhhh come on Dave thought u would now

 

[ray gower]

According to the sad people at Ex Astris, who have it on the good authority of even sader people The following 16 are known to have been destroyed:-

USS Melbourne- Nebula
USS Bellerophon
USS Melbourne- Excelsior (claimed to have been pulled out of retirement)
USS Roosevelt-
USS Yamaguchi- Ambassador
USS Gage- Apollo
USS Buran- Challenger
USS Ahwahnee- Cheyene
USS Firebrand- Freedom
USS Saratoga- Miranda
USS Kyushu- New Orleans
USS Princetown- Niagara
USS Bonestell- Oberth
USS Tolstoy- Rigel
USS Chekov- Sprinfield
USS Liberator- (Unknown)


The next question of course is if 39 from the forty ships were destroyed. What were all the others doing when Enterprise turned up in the film?
There are a raft of others seen under power when the cube blows up.

 

[Neo]

Very good point RAy....

 

[Dave]

There is another problem: In "The Best of Both Worlds Part 2" on arrival at the Wolf 359 battle scene, Data reports "No active subspace fields, negligible power readings." Riker responds, "Life signs?" Data "Negative Sir."

So, apart from the unlikely event of any escape pods leaving the sensor area of the Enterprise before it arrived (the battle does look 'quite' fresh, if the Enterprise's lifepods don't have a Warp capability then why would the Saratogas', and the Enterprise can scan for light years) then -- NO ONE SURVIVED!!

Therefore, Sisko and Jake are dead -- they must have been replaced with android replicants!!

 

[Neo]

or changelings....????

 

[Dave]

makes you think...!!!???

 

[Neo]

Saw this great Wolf 359 Site, it explains a lot

 

[Dave]

That must be the site that Ray mentioned.

 

[ray gower]

It is!

The description from Daystrom is somewhat shorter. But has a lot more detail about the ships and the Borg themselves.

http://www.ditl.org

 

[Neo]

Ow sorry did not notice it was the same one as Ray's

 

[Dave]

I only noticed that the site was called 'ex astris'. They ARE sad people though, we are getting into the realms of 'obsessive-fan' here.

As I said earlier:

originally posted by Dave

In reality, they pulled out nearly every model that they had ever built in Star Trek's history to produce the scenes in 'Emissary' even really weird ships that had been built, but never been used.

To take that hastily assembled scene and extrapolate all that from it is extra-ordinary.

 

[Neo]

I know what u mean DAve...

I mean its one thing enjoying the show but to take it to that extreme is quite worrying....

But hey each to their own

 

[ray gower]

My fault I should have added the url.

It gets sadder though!

I swear that page has been updated since I looked!

So not only have people worried about it, they are still worrying about it after however many years it was!

 

[Neo]

LOL... well it will probably continue to grow....