The Gate IS powered by the DHD

[sg14ever]

We now know the GATE is powered by the DHD

This is from the transcript for 48 hours.

Spoiler!

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CARTER: If the Al-kesh crashed into the DHD on the other planet, it would have cut off power to the outgoing gate. The wormhole would have been severed prematurely. Now if that happened before our Gate was able to reconvert Teal'c's energy signature back into matter.

There it is. The DHD powers the gate!

 

[Roach]

Which is interesting, because a Gate can be activated by hand.

 

[sg14ever]

Ahh yes true but then the ring only will spin by hand with a power source.

In the episode where the get sent to an offworld prison and they need to manualy dial out. They needed to find a power source.

hope that clears that up

 

[Hungry]

great but U know those alternative power sources such as the Electricity supply in the SGC and the lightening bolt in the Torment of Tantulus - that supplys electricity - a stream of Electrons - however, itz been said somewhere that Naquada - the stuff the gate is made of, reacts only with nutrinos. Thus, again, how is the gate powered cuz if the gate doesn't react with electrons - why does it ?! cuz electrons and nutrinos are 2 totally different types of fundamental particles - the electrons are leptons and i forget wot nutrinos r ............ nehowz ...........

 

[sg14ever]

Sometimes there are errors

Not every script will make sence with most the other.
Like in the Stargate movie or cotg's. There are so many mistakes that don't make sence with all the others. I am not sure if they did or did not say that you don't name the episode. But if they did it was probebly a blooper, or did not understand it.

That fact is that it has been said many times in the show and even on the stargate website that the gate can be powered by many many things.

It may act different if not powered by the DHD. But in the cases Where there is no DHD, They need a different power.

Back to what I first said. If it is only said in one script and not backed up in any other. It does not really count. It is a blooper.

Because we have seen the gate powered with electrons many times in lots of scripts we know that the gate can be powered by it.

 

[PTeppic]

Originally posted by sg14ever
Ahh yes true but then the ring only will spin by hand with a power source.

Not true: "Nemesis" they use the retained charge for the outgoing wormhole.

And what about the Nox and Asgard (and in "1969") where none DHD methods are used for dialling?

Also, there is a difference between powering the gate when dialling, and powering an established wormhole. See "Matter of Time" and "Chain Reaction" for such examples/theories.

 

[sg14ever]

The way it works is the ring will spin and lock when it has power.

In 1969 the power source whats the trucks (I may be wrong here I need to watch 1969 again).
With the asgard its powered by the same thing that they use to dial it.
I have no clue what the nox use but then again I don't think anyone does!

Anyway to dial out you need a power source, And that can be lots of different kinds of power!

As for incomming wormholes no power source is needed.

The gate can and does act different with different forms of power.
The earth power has caused the stargate to spin.
And with the nox its caused no wave.


I think the wave is cause by things like the dhd and earth power but not like in cotgs and the nox and there is no wave.
I think this is because the dhd and earth give the stargate full power and then start dialing. Leaving a lot of power left after the wormhole is open. That extra power comes out as a shockwave.

As for things like the nox and the goa'uld at the start of cotgs, they must use a device like a mobile smaller dhd with a preset address so is sends the power for the stargate and dials all the the one time. Leaving nothing to come out as a wave!

I think since the wave has to do with the power that is used to start the stargate, this would fit why it does not damage the iris!
It must go into the iris since its metal and earth powers the gate with electricity!

It may sound like this idea has no base to it but it makes sence!!

 

[PTeppic]

Originally posted by sg14ever
In 1969 the power source whats the trucks (I may be wrong here I need to watch 1969 again).

Sorry, i was thinkin of the FUTURE snapshot in 1969, where the hand-device is used. No visible power, no electricity (everything in the gateroom is powered down) and no vortex either...

 

[Jedispara]

there have been i think 3 times where there hasn't been a vortes and there were all when the power was trasmited by a hand device, and all of those have also locked all of the chevrons at once instead of the ring spining... the one was 1969, and casandra... one was wehn Thor comes to earth via the gate Small Victories??? and the last one was when the Nox come to rescue the Tollan on earth... so my guess is that when the power comes from a device attached a person, or comes from a person (The Nox can do that) that it overrides the vortex, protecting the person.

 

[PTeppic]

The power theory (and limited amount from hand devices) sounds interesting, as does the hand device for fixed (emergency?) "get me home" dialling... [also ties in with universal point-of-origin meanings, see other threads] [and of course the one used by Cassandra in the future in "1969" was hardly fixed but carefully calculated... ]

As for the vortex, it seems to be that IF there is a gap outside the event horizon, the vortex spills out and destroys all in its path. If there is something solid JUST outside the event horizon, it will connect but without a vortex - e.g. SGC with the iris shut, and in "Hundred Days" during the first trial dialling after the asteroid/comet. Finally, if there is sufficient matter (undefined!) within the event horizon at the time of dialling, as a security/safety measure it won't connect at all - which also happens to allow the gates to be buried. [Also alluded to in episodes such as "Hundred Days"]

 

[Jedispara]

that would make sence that it detetcs how much matter is in front and if there is a certain amount it won't create a vortex, this would also expain why the iris doesn't get destroied every time that some one dials in... so basically it has another built in safety feature so that people can be killed. and the idea about if there si matter in teh event horizon, that would explain why gates can be burried. good one!

 

[PTeppic]

Thank goodness - we can shut this thread down for now - you have a faster connection than me, or type much faster - there are four VERY active threads on this sub-forum, and it is just us two creating total theories of how the gate/DHD/addressing works!

 

[Jedispara]

its actually both of those 2, i have DSL and i can type about 50 words per min or faster.

 

[PTeppic]

Well, I can get up to 30 or more WPM, but I am fighting with V92...

[okay, not actually fighting, its quite quick at the moment - but JUST definitely slower than you... ]

 

[Jedispara]

at least you have a stable connection with that... i know some people that don't.... anyways lets close this thread for a while