The Tomb {could spoil it so don't look if you ain't seen it}

[System Lord Gypsy]

I watched the season 5 episode the Tomb not long ago and when Daniel was reading the text off the front he referred to Marduk, the thing is, he was talking like they had never heard of Marduk being a Goa'uld before.

Correct me if I'm wrong but was it not Marduk that they found out had turned Kendra into a host in season 1, Thors Hammer.


Gypsy

 

[{ACA} Spellcaster]

nope ya got it right

marduk took kendra from her home planet and made her into a goa'uld

Willz
:blpaw::blpaw:

 

[Morrolan]

okay, so Daniel forgot about Kendra saying that.... (I know, convenient excuse, but hey, it works... ) after all, how much time has passed between the two episodes in question?

 

[Jedispara]

um, just one thing, Kendra said that she had been taken not to long ago by marduk, BUT, if marduk had been in the tomb for 2,000 years, how could he have taken Kendra???

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

I knew there was something else that stuck out to me, Just couldn't remember what it was :rolly2:

Gypsy

 

[Morrigan]

This following rant is what I posted way back after the first airing (in the US) of The Tomb. I posted it on the SG1HC List (www.groups.yahoo.com/group/SG1HC). it's message 11126 if anyone wants to see what all the hubbub was about.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAY back in Thor's Hammer, we get word of Marduk as the abductor of Kendra (which she told Sam and Daniel). In light of this, I would have thought Daniel would have mentioned something about that in his debriefing. That he didn't really amazed me. I mean, Marduk is the chief god in the Babylonian pantheon, who happened to abduct a person SG-1 met, who proved that something of the host survives, who was able to get rid of her symbiote..... Daniel is notorious (in my mind) for pointing out the obvious, but he didn't here. I just don't get it.

Along the same vein, I have to ask, how long was Kendra a host? Based on what she said about speaking with her symbiote, I guessed a few years, decades at most. Based on the figure we get on how long Marduk was entombed, Kendra would have had to been a host for over 2,000 years. That just doesn't figure into the prior information.

Now, help me out on this one. This one confuses me-

Think back to Serpent's Song. When Apophis was dying, his host was dying as well, because he was aging rapidly. Does that only happen to hosts who exceeded their natural life expectancy, or were hosts for so long... you get it? Sam and Skaara were fine after they lost their symbiotes. Sam was fine after Jolinar died, so I am assuming that it is revelvant to the age of the host's body. Does that sound about right?

If that is true, then this also contradicts prior canon. Kendra would have died long before SG-1 went to Cimmeria. She would have been a host for 2000+ years, add her natural age, and you have a recipe for mass degeneration, a la Apophis.

Now I don't pay attention to writers, directors or the lot, but did the writers of The Tomb even watch the earlier seasons? I'm not one to nitpick (vocally), but this chain of events really got to me. It might have something to with my love of Marduk and his ancient rival Tiamat (haha, he killed her by shooting an arrow down her throat), or maybe it was because I actually noticed this inconsistancy, no one will ever know.

Morrigan

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

Some good points. All we know about Kendras time is that she was free for years during season 1 so it had to be at least 2000 yrs as a host.

As for Apophis I can only assume that it is something like the argosian nanocites. Once jack was free of them his body went back to aging normally, I assume when free of the Goa'uld your body would start to revert to what it would physically look like for your age, hence Skarra not changing and Aphophis starting to decay. As we didn't see much of him after death and didn't see how rapidly his body was decaying it also looks like we'll never know. The Kendra thing confuses me because she by rights should have looked similar to Apophis, The only thing I can think of for continuity is that Apophis's injuries were what made him look decrepit, Who can say. The crew of SG-1 do sometimes just forget continuity after all.


Gypsy

 

[leprykawn]

Maybe there was a MARDUK and a MARDOK, MARDOK being the Gou'ald that took over that woman's body in Thor's Hammer.

OR the snakehead that infested her body may have been from an alternate dimension.

 

[Morrigan]

AU? Sure!

Someone, somewhere, some time ago (I'm senile, so exCUSE me) said that every ep of SG-1 was based in a different reality. That's the only way to explain all the inconsistancies.

That woman (I do remember it was a chick who said it) is a genius. I never would have thought of that explination.

 

[capri-sun]

okay...my husband and i were discussing why kendra's body didn't age really fast...maybe the asguards made sure she would be okay..only the host could leave...so, maybe, they healed her body before she left.

 

[SlipKnot]

So many flaws and mistakes, so little time...

 

[Jedispara]

Originally posted by capri-sun
okay...my husband and i were discussing why kendra's body didn't age really fast...maybe the asguards made sure she would be okay..only the host could leave...so, maybe, they healed her body before she left.

that doesn't mean that had to though...

 

[PTeppic]

Well, we saw what happened to Apophis in "Serpent's Song", and even after just being a Jaffa we know the effect of symbiote removal.

a) the latter case may be different, simply due to the nature of the process - perhaps.
b) so what about Ska'ara - or maybe the Tok'ra have a method of healing any damage.

 

[Jedispara]

mabye... i'll have to look that up...

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

Skaa'ra wasn't really infested for very long so there may not have been too much damage to him anyway, Only really mental I would have thought. The Tok'ra would probably have had a Goa'uld healing device for any physical damage.

Gypsy

 

[Jedispara]

well of course... almost every race has some advanced way of healing injuries now...

 

[Gate Ghost]

um just a thought..do you know how long Kendra was infested by the goa'uld? i kinda got the feeling that it wasn't that long.......

the only reference to time i remember is that she had been freed 10 years ago

Ghost :alienooh:

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

She was freed 10 years ago, 15 by now since it was season 1 but the Goa'uld who took her was buried in a sarcophogus 200 yrs or so ago I think it was, We found that out in season 5. So it had to be at least 2000 yrs she was a host for.

Gypsy

 

[Gate Ghost]

lol
well that explains it....i've only seen halfway through season 4
Thank you

Ghost :kisses:

 

[PTeppic]

Originally posted by BC-Lord-Gypsy
Skaa'ra wasn't really infested for very long so there may not have been too much damage to him anyway, Only really mental I would have thought.

I reckon it was best part of two years. And by comparison, look at the effect on Jack in "Hathor" after only a few hours as a Jaffa without a larval symbiote.