Season 6 poll
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what a bunch of hoo ha
I'm female. I love Stargate. I enjoy Dr. Jackson's performance, but Spader was better. Okay, that said....It is Jack's departure that would sink that ship.
And besides, we all know that Dr. Jackson (Michael Shanks) will show up for the movie. I've seen Shanks in the movies...highly forgettable. He did wonders with the Jackson character, but he's not star quality yet....regardless of the internet sites he's acquired.
Of course, it could be because I'm past the hormonal flux stage of life....who knows?
When the television show M.A.S.H. lost major characters, they thought each and every time that that was the death knell of the highly successful show...each time the casting directors did a phenomenal job of "replacing" the departing characters, using the opportunity to craft and hone the show into a different direction.
They could do that here too.
I was disappointed when I read that deLuise, the series creative consultant, had tried to "mimic" 7 of 9 of the now defunct Star Trek spinoff, Voyager. Shows that "mimic", fail. The audience is not as dumb as they think....
A fatal flaw in SF, has always been the idea by producers of the shows that their audience is solely kids and not too bright ones at that. Science Fiction, done correctly, is the broadest spectrum of humanity played against a universal backdrop. I sure wish they'd stop underselling my ability to enjoy these shows....I hate it when they get "stupid".
That said. Jackson is "gone"....find an interesting replacement...not a "hunk"...an INTERESTING replacement!
I'm female. I love Stargate. I enjoy Dr. Jackson's performance, but Spader was better. Okay, that said....It is Jack's departure that would sink that ship.
And besides, we all know that Dr. Jackson (Michael Shanks) will show up for the movie. I've seen Shanks in the movies...highly forgettable. He did wonders with the Jackson character, but he's not star quality yet....regardless of the internet sites he's acquired.
Of course, it could be because I'm past the hormonal flux stage of life....who knows?
When the television show M.A.S.H. lost major characters, they thought each and every time that that was the death knell of the highly successful show...each time the casting directors did a phenomenal job of "replacing" the departing characters, using the opportunity to craft and hone the show into a different direction.
They could do that here too.
I was disappointed when I read that deLuise, the series creative consultant, had tried to "mimic" 7 of 9 of the now defunct Star Trek spinoff, Voyager. Shows that "mimic", fail. The audience is not as dumb as they think....
A fatal flaw in SF, has always been the idea by producers of the shows that their audience is solely kids and not too bright ones at that. Science Fiction, done correctly, is the broadest spectrum of humanity played against a universal backdrop. I sure wish they'd stop underselling my ability to enjoy these shows....I hate it when they get "stupid".
That said. Jackson is "gone"....find an interesting replacement...not a "hunk"...an INTERESTING replacement!
40% of the respondents either won't watch or aren't sure. If I were one of TPTB I'd be concerned.
Do they really think that adding a guy whose only claim to fame is a teen sitcom cancelled 9 years ago is going to draw many viewers to the 6th season of a science fiction show in 2002?
MS is gone and apparently RDA is only signed for 15 eps next season. Considering that Teal'c has been wallpaper for 2 seasons, what does that leave? Sam and Corky save the universe?
I don't pretend to be an expert on business. But why would you take the risk of alienating a significant portion of your current fan base on the unfounded assumption that you can make up the difference by adding some teen-idol hasbeen?
It's not just MS leaving, it's the change in premise from exploration to second rate X-files plot ripoffs, Jack going from strong, intelligent leader to bad tempered idiot, and every third episode focused on Sam's lovelife. The show has gone downhill, and I for one, am undecided as to whether I'll continue watching. I'll check out the first episode, but if the quality has slipped too much, forget it.
Ynott wrote:
It's obvious that TPTB completely misread their audience. I have to admit I'm one of the angry fans who feels insulted by the changes, and obviously, I'm not alone. It's not so much that one actor left, it's the contempt for the audience. That we won't notice the difference if the interesting, complex Daniel is replaced by a "hunk". The attitude seems to be "they're just women, give them a good looking guy and they'll stop complaining".
There's also a sense of "who cares about good writing and coming up with original plots, just copy other movies and TV shows, the idiots will lap it up". (Examples: Fail Safe, a.k.a. Starmageddon. Desperate Measures - what happened? Did they find an old X-Files script in a file drawer and decide to use that instead of paying someone to write an actual Stargate script?)
As for pandering to the "7 of 9 demographic", enough has been said about Tok'ra Ho already.
Do they really think that adding a guy whose only claim to fame is a teen sitcom cancelled 9 years ago is going to draw many viewers to the 6th season of a science fiction show in 2002?
MS is gone and apparently RDA is only signed for 15 eps next season. Considering that Teal'c has been wallpaper for 2 seasons, what does that leave? Sam and Corky save the universe?
I don't pretend to be an expert on business. But why would you take the risk of alienating a significant portion of your current fan base on the unfounded assumption that you can make up the difference by adding some teen-idol hasbeen?
It's not just MS leaving, it's the change in premise from exploration to second rate X-files plot ripoffs, Jack going from strong, intelligent leader to bad tempered idiot, and every third episode focused on Sam's lovelife. The show has gone downhill, and I for one, am undecided as to whether I'll continue watching. I'll check out the first episode, but if the quality has slipped too much, forget it.
Ynott wrote:
It's obvious that TPTB completely misread their audience. I have to admit I'm one of the angry fans who feels insulted by the changes, and obviously, I'm not alone. It's not so much that one actor left, it's the contempt for the audience. That we won't notice the difference if the interesting, complex Daniel is replaced by a "hunk". The attitude seems to be "they're just women, give them a good looking guy and they'll stop complaining".
There's also a sense of "who cares about good writing and coming up with original plots, just copy other movies and TV shows, the idiots will lap it up". (Examples: Fail Safe, a.k.a. Starmageddon. Desperate Measures - what happened? Did they find an old X-Files script in a file drawer and decide to use that instead of paying someone to write an actual Stargate script?)
As for pandering to the "7 of 9 demographic", enough has been said about Tok'ra Ho already.
Poll has been revised
Becuase of many people who wanted an 'undecided' option, the poll was reset, with either YES, NO or UNDECIDED. All the previous votes were saved for later comparison in case people don't vote again.
But you can vote again as all votes were reset
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Becuase of many people who wanted an 'undecided' option, the poll was reset, with either YES, NO or UNDECIDED. All the previous votes were saved for later comparison in case people don't vote again.
But you can vote again as all votes were reset
http://members.aol.com/JRD803/stargatepoll.htm
spookypumpkin
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i can't believe 98 people said they would not watch season 6!!!!
ok, if you think the show's gone downhill, but you can't say you put yourself through 45 minutes of a sci-fi program you don't care about just to drool at michael shanks?!
come on people shake your self out of it!! go fancy the new guy for crying out loud!! its a great show!
ok, if you think the show's gone downhill, but you can't say you put yourself through 45 minutes of a sci-fi program you don't care about just to drool at michael shanks?!
come on people shake your self out of it!! go fancy the new guy for crying out loud!! its a great show!
danny_girl
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It was a great show. I guess it depends why you watch it. Personally, I watch it for the "team" aspect and the new worlds/races and for the character of DJ. I do not watch it to drool over MS although he is nice to look at.
Garron
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Make another poll asking whether you're going to watch Stargate on television or via www.sg1archive.com!!!!
here's a thought, if people are so discusted with the show & aren't goimg to watch S6 why are they bothering to hang around here or is there a small glimmer of hope that the writters may serprise us & pull thoughwith the SG stories we love? 
Originally posted by skoon
here's a thought, if people are so discusted with the show & aren't goimg to watch S6 why are they bothering to hang around here or is there a small glimmer of hope that the writters may serprise us & pull thoughwith the SG stories we love?
Curiosity, habit, wont, boredom, bookmarks. There are also other reasons than disgust for not watching S6.
As to the hope of surprise: that'd be nice. I think they'll come up with some good ones, albeit evolved from the past.
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Hatshepsut
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Originally posted by skoon
here's a thought, if people are so discusted with the show & aren't goimg to watch S6 why are they bothering to hang around here or is there a small glimmer of hope that the writters may serprise us & pull thoughwith the SG stories we love?
Speaking for myself, I'm hanging around reading all the fan fic., and I'm reading more interesting stories with better plots and better characterization here than a lot of what I watched in series 5.
Will T.P.T.B. manage to drag the programme kicking and screaming back to its roots? Well, with at least two episodes - 'Frozen' and 'Nightwalkers' - come from the scriptwriters of 'X-Files, S.G.-1', I'm not holding my breath.
I am hoping, though, that with all the adverse publicity flying around, they will stop and take a dispassionate look at where they're heading.
Maybe then the realization will strike them like a coup de foudre that:
Hey! we've got a Stargate here!
It goes to other worlds in the blink of an eye!
Why don't we send S.G.-1 through it and see what's out there? :smilej:
Could be kind of interesting...
WOW! What a brilliant idea! :coolorang
Let's do it!
Then I'll be glued to my T.V.
Best wishes,
Hatshepsut :wave:
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