Is Warp Drive Impossible?

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Huge energy demands and insurmountable engineering problems haven’t stopped people theorizing that real “Warp Drives†might be possible. However, ‘New Scientist’ has reported that a Portuguese mathematician has proved it could never work.

Although Albert Einstein’s special theory of relativity says nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, Mexican mathematician found a way around the problem in 1994. He showed that a bubble with walls made of negative energy would distort space around it. If such a bubble was made to contract the space in front of it, and expand the space behind it, it could be propelled forward at any speed, even FTL.

Unfortunately, Joe Natario of Lisbon’s Higher Institute of Technology has thrown a spanner in the Dilithium crystal matrix. Space travellers inside since such a bubble, moving FTL, would see light from ahead Doppler shifted to bright blue, while behind they would see nothing as light could not keep up with them.

In order to control the direction and speed of the bubble they would need to send signals to it, but signals sent forward would be overtaken, producing a “horizon†or barrier, beyond with they could never communicate. This horizon would actually cut the wall of the bubble in two. Not only could they not steer or stop, but also they would be unable to generate it in the first place.

However, Michael Pfenning of the University of York thinks that light may not behave in the same way as Natario and is still working on the problem. He also thinks that people outside the bubble could control the bubble walls instead. This would be something like the ‘Soliton Wave’ seen in “New Ground†TNG. But just as the Soliton wave produced a shock wave that damaged the Enterprise, light emitted by the travellers might build up on the horizon, squashed to an infinitely thin density.

Even if these bubbles could not travel FTL, they might be used to travel just below the speed of light, too slow to compete with a Starfleet vessel, but fast enough for us to reach neighbouring star systems in decades rather than lifetimes.
 
We are assuming this "bubble" is subspace. It takes quite a bit of energy to get into subspace for warp drive to work, but from there, it takes fairly little to "move" the ship. The laws of physics are not all relevant in subspace.
 
I don't know that much about the laws of physics (well, I used to as I studied it at University for several year, but I must have forgotten), but I was wondering if anyone has read a rather short book called "The Science of Star Trek"?

I read it a few years ago and was quite impressed by it's dissection of the scientific basis of the various futuristic, and so far impossible technologies which are an inescapable part of the ST universe. If I remember correctly the two most glaringly obvious technological impossibilities were transporters, replicators and fully interactive holograms. I believe the author's main argument was that the cheer volume of memory needed to store such complex information was unattainable, and that the manipuation of matter required was simply unimaginable by today's standards.

I like to think that we will get there someday. Look at the little PDA things they use in TNG era treks - they are bigger than what we have today!

Sorry for diverging a little - fascinating post, Dave, I wish I knew (or is that understood) more about it...
 
I've got 'The Science of Star Trek' too. I looked up what he said about Warp Drive after I read that article, but he doesn't explain it as a bubble, instead he thinks that the starship warps all the space in front and behind it, I guess it would be like the difference between a ship and a hovercraft on water.

If we are ever to leave our solar system, we will need to develop some way of doing this. Other than that it will be 'sleeper ships' or 'generational ships' for everyone.
 
I do hope they develop something like it.. NASA is doign alot behind the scenes
 
I ahgve heard that they do in fact travel in a subspace "bubble" when they travel through warp.
 
One of Wesley's science experiments involved a 'Static subspace bubble' going haywire. ('Remember Me' TNG) This was explained as a new Warp field configeration. Don't ask me what that means, but it sounds like that's how we are meant to believe it works.
 
OK. Thanks for clearing that up.

Does anyone else want to know what happened to Wesley???
 
Originally posted by Neo
I do hope they develop something like it.. NASA is doign alot behind the scenes


I wish they would lets us know something .



They were lucky to send 2 little golf carts to mars.


They lose a shuttle, they ground it for years.


They need to get in gear, the private sector (scaled composites)has already showed them up to a extent already.


If they have some secret projects they need to bring it out in the open.


To me they are dragging their feet


They need to come up with something to get us excited again like when they had the apollo missions.



I truly believe NASA will not be the one that developes any ground breaking technology.



It will be somebody in the private sector.


Stryker
 
I think you should blame politicians rather than NASA. NASA never wanted the shuttle, they wanted a fully re-useable craft but were limited by budget. In recent years the budget has been cut further. Now Bush has announced a goal of getting men to Mars, but I don't know how that is expected to happen.
 
Difficult to see who is actually the more advanced in space propulsion.

While Nasa are busy crowing about the brute force and ignorance performance of their latest SCRAMjet (a fifties technology), Europe have managed to quietly develop a working Ion drive for their Smart 1.

Both are probably going to be needed before man goes into space with any seriousness. SCRAM gives initial thrust to achieve any form any form of speed. But ion drives, in theory, can achieve higher speeds.
 

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