Boy does Jonus get it ... [spoilers]

[Sphinx]

After recently watching Redemption Pt1, I was quite pleased with the way the episode went with regard to introducing Jonus - I know I might be in the minority, but something I'm sure all fans will agree on was the boxing spar scene between Jonus and Teal'c. Yeah go Teal'c !

 

[imported_TheDoc]

I admit my inner neanderthaler really enjoyed that scene...

over all, I found the episode to be mostly well written, good entertainment, but it didn't knock me off my socks as I hoped it would. that special something which made stargate special to me is not there anymore, and no, I'm not talking about daniel jackson. maybe some of the things he stood for, but I find it hard to put the finger on it.

jonas was less annoying than I thought he would be, but the chances I'll enroll in a jonas quinn fan club any time soon are too low to recommend anybody to bet money on it.

the doc

 

[Texane]

Ditto, Doc.

 

[Jobeth]

Seeing that I hate Jonas with the white hot intensity of a thousand burning suns, the sight of him getting knocked around gave me a warm glow.

It's pretty sad when the much hyped 'You're going to love him!" new guy garners such tepid praise as TheDoc's:

jonas was less annoying than I thought he would be

 

[Texane]

he's got that cocker spaniel puppy thing going on . . . he's too nice to kick around . . .

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and it took the Russians to get him on the team . . .

 

[imported_TheDoc]

contains possible spoilers

Originally posted by Jobeth
It's pretty sad when the much hyped 'You're going to love him!" new guy garners such tepid praise as TheDoc's:

for me, the thrill and anticipation I felt about former season starts has simply gone. nothing. zilch. maybe because it's been told to death, maybe because we've been literally flooded with spoilers - what fun is it if you know almost the complete scripts upfront. and even if not - it's become predictable. I stumbled over a preview for the next three episode, and two of them ended with "... and jonas saves the day". ::yawn:: it's summer. it's hot. I rather go swimming. I wouldn't have felt like this in previous seasons.

as for jonas: I'd like to specify that this wasn't even tepid praise. this character simply doesn't "catch" me. first I wondered if I should include him in one way or the other in one of my jackypulations (on "good morning, campers"), but the best idea I could come up with was a monty pythonesque 30t weight falling down ... (kscccchhh - baddadoc!)

and I also admit that, despite my lifelong attempts to be a peaceful creature with no harm in mind and trying to see both sides and being fair and yadda yadda there was this little voice in my head telling me that grape-eating-people in daniel's office, going thru his personal stuff somehow *would* deserve a 305 weight ... you get the point.

@texane: as for the spoiler - I thought this whole cold-war bit was pretty outdated ::yawn:: - what I really liked most about the episode was teal'c!

however: I have every intention to see the show to the (maybe) bitter end. and then the weights will fall ... have your umbrellas ready ...

the doc

 

[lene morissette]

I've only seen the first ep so far but Jonas seems like a nice guy. He's not exactly Daniel Jackson but as far as replacements go I don't dislike him. Plus Sam seems to like him and I trust her judgement. And ,no, I didn't mean 'like' in that way! - they just seem to get on. Hey, it's better than working with Doc. McKay ( even tho I agree he is one of those characters u just love to hate!) Did u see the look of disgust on that airman/woman's face when he walked in and said that line to Sam?!? Hee hee it was so funny! Btw, how do I use the nu 'spoiler space' thingy?

 

[Jobeth]

Texane wrote:

he's too nice to kick around . . .

Oh no he's not. I didn't even watch 'Redemption 2' last night because I simply cannot stand Jonas. The sight of that smug, smarmy, little weasel makes me want to do an Elvis and shoot the TV screen.

That scene in 'Redemption 1' where Jonas was sitting in Daniel's office, reading his diary, reminded me of the movie 'The Talented Mr. Ripley', where one man killed another and literally stole his life. I don't like the character, I will never like the character.

Although I do have one question regarding the episode. From what I read of the spoilers, comments, etc. it seems that Sam and McKay (now I liked him, basically because even though he's every bit as obnoxious as Jonas, TPTB aren't insisting he's really a good guy, and jamming him down my throat, that and he didn't get Daniel killed), have real sparkage, and were flirting. How is this going down with the S/J shippers?

(BTW, my dislike of CN's acting has absolutely NOTHING to do with MS. I've felt that way about him since the early 1980's when he was on 'Webster'. He's been emiting the same creepy vibe for nearly 20 years now.)

 

[bummer]

Jonas..

I didn't see him as smarmy at all. To me, he came across as more self-conscious and unsure of his place in a new atmosphere. I was just as nervous about TNG as most, but so far he hasn't just totally turned me off. I actually liked how they handled his part in Redemption.

BTW, I loved the boxing scene, too. That's going above and beyond the call of duty to recruit help for your cause!

 

[lene morissette]

As an s/j er I saw NO flirting between the two (Dr. McKay & Sam). She hates him and only tolerates him bcoz she has to. She has absolutely NO interest in him. Even when he was doing his 'I was right and u were wrong' speech, Sam was standing next to Jack, she kept smiling and looking at him as if to say 'Here we go again is there nething u can do 2 shut him up Sir?' - if there is nething between Sam and McKay it is hatred and loathing rather than 'chemistry'. As an s/j er that is my opinion Jobeth.

He's too pathetic for Sam. she has that thing for 'The Lunatic Fringe' remember? If sum1 went 2 punch him he'd probably duck and squeak 'No please don't hurt me!'! He's such a wuss but I hope they keep him around coz unlike Col. Simmons, I like to hate him coz he isn't boring!

 

[Texane]

Originally posted by lene morissette
Btw, how do I use the nu 'spoiler space' thingy?

put whatever you want to write in between (spoiler) and (/spoiler) except use [] brackets instead.

 

[Texane]

I hated the arrogant jerk. I say we kill him. :angryfire

 

[Texane]

Hey Doc!

re: cold war thing, you're preaching to the choir. You must have missed the many threads dedicated to the issue of the change to Season 5. My take: Back to the Stars. If I wanted to watch conspiracies and the cold war stuff, I'd watch the X-Files. They do it much better.

 

[Sphinx]

Re: contains possible spoilers

Originally posted by TheDoc
for me, the thrill and anticipation I felt about former season starts has simply gone. nothing. zilch. maybe because it's been told to death, maybe because we've been literally flooded with spoilers - what fun is it if you know almost the complete scripts upfront. and even if not - it's become predictable.

Not wanting to start a war or anything I think you've hit the nail on the head as to why you've "fell out of love" with the series.

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Spoilers !

I remember the early days where spoilers were few and far between, thesedays you can't enter "Stargate" into a search engine without a multitude of sites offering the latest info. I run a Stargate Website and I know the drive to offer this information - hell that's why people connect to the Internet in the first place.

As you can imagine I get tons of Fan email and my favourites are always from people who hold an favourable view. I received one the other day from a UK Fan ;

"Please let me know when Season 6 is going to start on Sky One.. I'm so exciting and can't wait".

This is one of many similar emails, in fact I get more of this viewpoint than any other. I take the Good with the Bad - to me it's still is a great concept - I won't Punish Stargate for the past I'll just be looking forward to the future.

I've been lucky enough to catch the 1st Season 6 episode and I thought it was great, many would disagree and that's fine - but I'm sure many will agree too.

 

[Texane]

re: spoilers

comparing Farscape (only three seasons completed, beginning the fourth season, epy 3 pending), I loved it when, in Season 1 and Season 2, there really were no extensive number of threads about anything but the actual epys themselves. There weren't that many threads in General Discussions, and the character areas had many positive posts about the actors and the past and present projects they were involved in . . . and spoilers about the season ending (always a Farscape four-parter), well, the only spoilers are really from the Brits who always get to see the final 4 before the USA does, and even then, spoilers are only there if you're interested.

I suppose, in a way, the age of Stargate and its popularity has brought about other changes and additions as well . . . including the wish to capitalize on a popular show. I'm still a bit optimistic re: Season 6 . . .

 

[skoon]

well, getting back to Jonas, I like having him around as eye-candy. We all know why he's there, replacement & all. I don't really care about going into his character or past at all. Just get back to the stars & the rest of the team...