2.02: Carbon Creek

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Although this episode will air after the second part of Shockwave, it is actually going to be filmed first.

Shooting on the episode started on Wednesday the 26th of June 2002.
 
In an interview in the July edition of 'Star Trek Monthly' Rick Berman has revealed some spoilers for the episode 'Carbon Creek', and it seems that the planet they visit is Earth!

In the first episode of 'Enterprise' that we'll be shooting, which will be the second episode to air, we're going to discover that the first contact between Vulcans and humans was not in Montana between Zefram Cochrane and the Vulcans, as you saw take place in the movie 'First Contact'. In fact, it happened in a coal-mining town in Pennsylvania and it was in the year 1957. It took place with the great-grandmother of T'Pol and three other Vulcans who crash-landed on Earth days or weeks after the launch of Sputnik in 1957... The role [of T'Pol's great-grandmother] will be played by a young actress named Jolene Blalock. There's an exclusive for you.
 
There was an odd bit of synchronicity associated with the first episode to be produced this season (see related story). At the beginning of July, scenes were shot depicting a coal mine accident at Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania, and the rescue of a trapped group of miners. Within the same month, a real coal mine accident occurred at Quecreek, Pennsylvania, where a group of miners were trapped for three days. To the nation's great relief, the real-life men emerged alive and relatively healthy. (But as far as we know, there were no alien visitors involved in their rescue.) I wondered about this at the time, if the rescue hadn't been successful, I wondered if they would show the episode.

It began production on July 26, on location near San Bernardino, California, for two days. Blalock and the guest cast returned to the Paramount lot that Friday to begin shooting on sets depicting the titular Pennsylvania town, as well as the bridge of a 20th-century Vulcan ship. Bakula and Trinneer reported to work on Monday, July 8, to shoot the present-day (22nd-century) scenes on the standing Enterprise sets.

On Wednesday, July 10, everyone was back, as Dominic Keating (Malcolm Reed), Anthony Montgomery (Travis Mayweather), Linda Park (Hoshi Sato) and John Billingsley (Dr. Phlox) picked up where they left off — under threat by the Suliban Silik, played by John Fleck. Fortunately for Fleck and the other guest actors who had to endure the very hot and confining Suliban makeup, new air conditioning systems were installed in the Enterprise soundstages during hiatus. Vaughn Armstrong and Gary Graham, as Admiral Forrest and Ambassador Soval respectively, also returned for the second-parter during the seven-day shooting schedule, which took place entirely in the show's three Paramount soundstages.
 
It appears that the 'Carbon Creek' story will be told in Flashback, at least time travel is not involved in it. The magazine SFX has a synopsis:

TREK TODAY -- Archer and Trip refuse to believe T'Pol's tale of her great-grandmother's visit to Earth in the episode 'Carbon Creek,' according to new spoilers recently posted online.

The episode is set during Enterprise's regular 'crew evaluation' period, genre entertainment magazine SFX reported (via the Great Link). As the representative of the Vulcan High Command onboard the NX-01, it is T'Pol's duty to assess Archer for her superiors. During the evaluations, Archer and Trip gather for a drink with T'Pol and they convince her to tell the story of her great-grandmother.

As previously reported, T'Pol's ancestor was onboard a Vulcan ship observing the launch of Sputnik in 1957. According to executive producer Rick Berman, the Vulcans have a "little accident" and are forced to land in Pennsylvania, near the coal-mining town of Carbon Creek.

As it turns out, according to SFX's synopsis, the Vulcan from 'Star Trek: First Contact' was not the first extra-terrestrial visitor to an Earth bar. While visiting Carbon Creek, the logical aliens apparently partake in "recreational activities" and play pool. T'Pol's great-grandmother even picks up a souvenir - a red purse.

Archer and Trip are incredulous at the thought that Vulcans visited Earth so long ago and accuse T'Pol of making the story up. However, when she returns to her quarters, T'Pol takes out the red purse, showing the audience that the tale was in fact true.
 
I liked this episode alright, but I must have missed something. I thought Vulcans couldn't tell a lie? I must have been wrong because T'Pol's foremother said that Mestral had died in the crash.
 
Maybe living with humans for 3 months corrupted her.
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This episode was okay - but I missed part of the beginning (I think) so it didn't make all that much sense ----

interesting idea tho.
 
was a good episode .. saw more of t'pol and her history.

Nice idea going pre cochrane though.
 
I'm not sure why, but Sky One just aired this episode. I knew I would like it, and I think it was the best this season so far.

T'Pol's story is definately false, because Velcro was invented by a Swiss boy called George de Mestral. He had a Swiss patent in 1951, 6 years before T'Pol claimed to have took the money for it. In 1952 Velcro S.A. received additional patents in Germany, Switzerland, Great Britain, Sweden, Italy, Holland, Belgium, France, Canada and the United States.

On the other hand, they probably hadn't heard of it yet in a small American town.

What do you think Mestral got up to in the next 150+ years, and do you think we will hear of him again?
 
how did she happen to have velcro on her at the time? or did she make it? I'd think that years in the future & a race as 'superior' as the vulcans would use something better than velcro...heck I just had to send my doggies raincoat back to the stor after 3 months because the velcro is failing...
 
I always love these kind of episodes so really enjoyed it. I am kinda wondering what happen to Mestral and would guess he stayed on in Carbon Creek for a while - I'm sure he found maggie 'intruiging' :wink2:

OK, right at the end when they were rescued - did you see T'pol's great granny with that bag - can't remember ! BUT, if she didn't take it with her then how could T'pol have ended up with it !!! I reckon she missed out part of the end of her story and that when she visited Carbon Creek herself she found old Mestral and he gave it to her.

Of course if someone remembers great granny having the bag when she was rescued my theory goes down the tubes - any ideas ??
 
maybe they gave them some time to collect things & make sure they didn't leave anything behind?
 

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