Something that really bugs me about Voyager...

[Tabitha]

...is that the characters hardly ever get out of uniform! I was watching the season seven (I think) episode where the Delta Flyer gets entered into a race. You know the one, Tom finally pops the question to B'elanna and at the end we see an external shot of the delta flyer with various flotsam and jetsam hanging off it and "just married" scrawled on it's stern

I have many complaints about this sequence [graffitiing a starship, attaching rubbish to it, piloting a ship while drinking champagne with your wife (who is sitting on your knee). Worf and Dax never carried on like that!] but my main gripe is - why on earth are they wearing their uniforms on their Honeymoon??!!!

The crew of Voyager must really like those old threads, because they rarely took them off - remember any of the scenes in the holodeck cinema? Yep, you guessed it, all those off duty crewman are in their uniforms...

Why? Are they trying to save energy use in the replicators? Is that also the reason that they didn't bother to upgrade to the most recent uniform style, even after getting in regular contact with starfleet?

I bet this doesn't bug you as much as it bugs me, but anyone out there got anything to add, either on this subject, or on your own little quibbles with Voyager?

 

[ray gower]

Gosh! What a dangerous question!

I think my biggest gripe inside a single episode was when the Kazon captured Voyager.
Voyager was the most advanced ship in the Delta Quadrant. How could they drive it?
More importantly, remembering the pigs ear Paris made of crashing Voyager the week before. How did they land it?

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by Tabitha
....why on earth are they wearing their uniforms on their Honeymoon??!!!

....remember any of the scenes in the holodeck cinema? Yep, you guessed it, all those off duty crewman are in their uniforms...

....Is that also the reason that they didn't bother to upgrade to the most recent uniform style, even after getting in regular contact with starfleet?

It is something that crossed my mind, especially the old uniform style. If you found out you were wearing a five year old uniform, you would get a new one replicated with your next replicator ration.

Its called 'fashion', and it seems to be very important today, and has been for well over 400 years, so why not in another 400 years time?

 

[Tabitha]

Originally posted by ray gower
Gosh! What a dangerous question!

I think my biggest gripe inside a single episode was when the Kazon captured Voyager.
Voyager was the most advanced ship in the Delta Quadrant. How could they drive it?
More importantly, remembering the pigs ear Paris made of crashing Voyager the week before. How did they land it?

Didn't the Kazon have Seska with them? I imagine that the more complicated things get, the easier the controls - so maybe it is a lot easier to pilot Voyager than we might think. Makes Tom's claim of being an amazing pilot a bit less likely though:wink2:

Fashion - it's not really supposed to have much bearing in the military, is it? Although, considering how often Starfleet have changed their uniforms I was amazed (and a little disappointed) that they didn't adopted the new grey and black style.

 

[Maria8475]

I think you're original theory on them saving energy is probably correct. But it is nice to see they do all look nice out of uniform, thinking particulary of Neelix's party in the Holodeck at the end of Before and After

 

[libelula]

I would have liked to seen at least one of them in some blue jeans and a t-shirt. Also why do they always have to watch movies made in the US in the fifties. They could have also chosen better examples of cinema. I would have loved to see them put something like the Matrix (first one) up there. It also would have been cooler for Paris to be addicted to Anime instead of old bugs bunny cartoons.

 

[Dave]

Originally posted by boaste
I would have liked to seen at least one of them in some blue jeans and a t-shirt. Also why do they always have to watch movies made in the US in the fifties. They could have also chosen better examples of cinema. I would have loved to see them put something like the Matrix (first one) up there. It also would have been cooler for Paris to be addicted to Anime instead of old bugs bunny cartoons.

I agree completely. Why are they always in uniform?

And there is an obvious US bias in their cinematic presentations, as well as nothing from our future. TV is meant to have died out in 2040 (Data says that in 'The Neutral Zone' TNG).

But if TV and Film are no longer made, why do they watch it anyway.

They've started weekly movies on 'Enterprise' now. Only now they show 1930's Horror movies to T'Pol !!!!

 

[ray gower]

Originally posted by Tabitha
...is that the characters hardly ever get out of uniform!

The crew of Voyager must really like those old threads, because they rarely took them off - remember any of the scenes in the holodeck cinema? Yep, you guessed it, all those off duty crewman are in their uniforms...

Think this is a matter of preference. Have you seen the fashions civvies wear in DS9?

Drab olive, dull browns, collarless shirts and open jackets, all very 50's or at least 50's interpretation of future chic.

At least the Star Fleet Uniform almost looks like something neat and can be done up at the front, even if it is with velcro.

Just as well, the advanced society seem to have lost the ability to create buttonholes!

 

[Tabitha]

Yeah, I suppose the alternatives aren't exactly very nice. It still seems odd though - at least in DS9 they got to have some variety occasionally!

 

[L. Arkwright]

New uniforms? Youve gotta be kidding, I mean poor Harry Kim goes through more than any normal starfleet officer would have to face, saves the ship a few times and guess what? He's still an ensign. lol

 

[ray gower]

Originally posted by L. Arkwright
New uniforms? Youve gotta be kidding, I mean poor Harry Kim goes through more than any normal starfleet officer would have to face, saves the ship a few times and guess what? He's still an ensign. lol

Hold on. I don't remember anybody actually getting as far as catching a thread on their uniforms, even when being blown up! A little grubby perhaps

So perhaps that is why they didn't change them. The ones they set out with were indestructible and not like the cheap chinese copies they used in DS9?

Certainly not like dear old James T Kirk's sweat shirt!

 

[Ian8781]

Remember Miles O'Brian was really gutted when he tore his pants in the season 6 ep: Rocks and Shoals

 

[John Thiel]

What if they can't get out of uniform after a certain length of time? An episode could have been devoted to it...Tuvoc has occasion to don some other clothing and finds out he can't get out of his uniform because it's become stuck to him. The other crewmen try out various schemes for getting him out of it, and the ladies too have a try at a solution. Finally Neelix gets him so worried that he tries some teleportation that he learned from a mind-meld with Kes, and though it's unsuccessful (besides, those people transport clothing and all; I remember when Tuvoc/Neelix were still in uniform when they were separated) it does loosen up the uniform for him to try so fantatically. Neelix says, "I scared the pants off him!"