something I noticed about ring transports

[spider]

I really don't think this is a spoiler of any sorts, but it is from a season 6 ep "The Other Guys", so I'll include a spoiler space anyway...but trust me, this gives away nothing.

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...ok, everything I've seen up to now regarding ring transpot has led me to believe that a line-of-sight must be estabolished between the two sets of rings in order for transport to successfully occur, ala the place you want to ring to must be directly above or below you. However, at the end of "The Other Guys", the exact opposite seems to happen. SG-1 is on a planet, a good distance from a non-ship, forever-planted-im-its-spot pyrimid...and one of their men is still within that pyrimid. Jack and Teal'c are able to ring in, get the guy, and ring out...between two ring transports that are more or less horizontal with eachother.

How could they have used the rings to travel from within the grounded pyrimid to a spot on the ground not far away?

 

[adele.s]

Orbital mirror or satellite buffer?

Could be an orbital mirror... *grin* Like a satellite with a buffer zone where the rings in one location beam them up to, and then they are beamed back down to another spot on the planet.

Or perhaps the series' continuity is just completely gone.

Hey, these are just possibilities...

 

[webmouse]

Yes, I wondered about that, too. I figured that with all those Star Trek references and the Batleth on the wall, they got John Billingsley to swipe one of Enterprise's turbolifts and reconfigured it for ring transport

 

[PTeppic]

It seems to me that with the later series they are stretching more and more for stories, and things are getting messy... I started a similar (sort of) thread re. series 5 "48 hours", in which another discontinuity is relied on....

 

[Jedispara]

i think the principle is that if one or both of the objects are moving, there has to be a line of site, and there is also probably a distance limit...

but if there are 2 fixed ring devices (a la "The other Guys", ps. i did see it so i know what you mean) then they have it built into them that there is a ring some place....

also there is a similar refrence to this in "The Tomb" when they escape the zygorate by flying to a temple nearby....

so it is more likely that if the rings are in one specific place and can't be moved than they can be told to do anything.... like a horozontally calibrated ring transport....

just thinking outloud....

 

[System Lord Gypsy]

The way I had figured it was as long as there was a straight line for the matter stream with no other rings blocking the way as seen in some eps, then you would be able to ring from any ring device to another within the devices operating distance which judging from some eps seems to be quite a way.

Gypsy

 

[spider]

The physical construction of the rings themselves seem to restrict the matter stream to straight up or down transmission...the concept of an orbitol mirror would make sense...but have the Goa'uld ever been known to place satelites around a planet?

 

[shu_hunter]

The physical construction of the rings themselves seem to restrict the matter stream to straight up or down transmission..

What if the *choomchoomchoomchoomchoom bzzzt! choomchoomchoomchoomchoom* of the transperter rings is just the way they deconstruct/reconstruct matter, and not how they send it? Like some alien tok'ra-or-similar said, the rings act like mini short-range stargates.
What I mean is, what if the matter stream can go at an angle 'cause that's the way it's transmitted? It's only assumed that rings can only transmit up/down because we've never really seen them do otherwise? Maybe they're not going back on their established storylines, maybe they're just expanding them.

~Shu Hunter
:upto: Stargate fan{atic}

 

[PTeppic]

I certainly wouldn't imagine that two totaly different technologies are used for short and long-range transport, with different molecular level dis/re-integration and matter-beam implementations...

We don't really know that there isn't a "matter beam" just like the rings that goes through the wormhole for full 'gate travel... since we don't see the inside of the wormhole during travel. [ Except from the impossible view of a de-molecuralised traveller... ]

As for sideways - there is no specific emitter apparent on the rings, and the beam can clearly go through other matter (i.e. to get through a ships hull, or through the ground) so there's no reason why it couldn't go through the rings themselves? It just doesn't look as easthetically pleasing or logical.

 

[Ko'or Oragahn]

I can't remember when we learned that the beams could go through matter. I know it can but I can't see when we clearly learned it for the first time. In the film, we never saw if there wasn't some kind of hatch opening to let the beam go.

Anyway, there's already an older episode when SG-1 had to rescue Teal'c who was captured.

We saw Teal'c going to be transported from Heru'ur ship to Apophis' one (Episode : Serpent's Venom).

During the beam transmission, Carter's father (leading figure of the Tok'ra) put the Scout Ship* through the line of sight of the linear beam and recovered Teal'c by using the rings inside the Tok'ra ship.

It's interesting to note that the beam was horizontal (well, I think) when all the rings onboard the ships were always assembling and disassembling vertically.

There must be a system to guide the beam in a particular direction, but it is certainly not restricted to upward and downward directions.

* I have to check if it wasn't rather a Tel'Tak ship that was usued...