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lysdexia

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There could be a new function for the vortex. It really goes out there and seems to be a waste of energy. If the gate is given energy at enough power, that vortex can turn into a bubble that envelopes the whole room, enclosure, or even a ship, moon, or planet? taking the gate with it. This solves the problem of trying to teleport objects larger than the gate. Imagine plowing a ship at the other end. Careful though, if not enough power is given, only the gate is taken without you or the rest of the place and you'd be stranded without a ship. That sounds like the Ancients' way of revoking someone's gate privileges. Maybe they can feature this in Atlantis if not the movie.

This next idea is hilarious, and is something a stoner would easily come up with... though I wouldn't need to be. It was after I read someone on GWf acting out hiding behind a DHD. It would be so cool if someone turned the DHD into a vending machine. You'd see the selections through a virtual MALP screen, and try to guess the number through the dialer. If you found one, the wormhole establishes, goes *rwor rwor*, and the vortex spits out the can or bag. I don't think they can find any appropriate context for that situation... Maybe they can do it in the video game... or the Simpsons version of Stargate.
 
The vortex doesn't seem to be a function of the energy input to the gate (it appears when power comes from DHD, lorry alternator, lighting strikes, cold fusion and the SGC electrical grid). Even when supplying a lot of extra power (e.g. to reach Othalla) the vortex is unchanged.

But, it does seem to relate to the method of dialling... Asgard, Nox and "future" hand-dialling techniques all result in an EH being generated without the vortex.

The "self-destruct" is interesting, and a great possibility, though I would doubt that the vortex would be the mechanism. When the wave forms, it comes forwards, but never larger than the diameter of the gate, and hence does not damage the gate in "normal" initiation. Perhaps some sort of vortex feedback could somehow cause it to expand backwards and/or outwards, but I am quite unconvinced so far.
 
I know how the vortex forms. The energy isn't dissipated.

I am getting sick and tired of your reading problems.

Do you know the difference between energy and power?

Did I ever say anything about the vortex forming and expanding from past methods?

Did I ever say anything about a "self-destruct"?

Did I or the show ever say anything about the vortex being fixed?

Did you contribute anything at all to this thread?

Do you even know what this thread is about? Have I never been explicit about what I'm complaining about you? Let's hear from more competent people...
 
Originally posted by lysdexia
There could be a new function for the vortex. If the gate is given energy at enough power, that vortex can turn into a bubble that envelopes the whole room... taking the gate with it. [...] Careful though, if not enough power is given, only the gate is taken without you [...]. That sounds like the Ancients' way of revoking someone's gate privileges.
That sounds to me like an effective self-destruct from the view-point of the planet. Removal of stargate, and loss of the gate transport to the locals.

We have seen the vortex destroys anything it touches.... therefore, any theories suggested about other roles can be started on this basis: extrapolation. Hence my previous post.

And, we don't KNOW how the vortex forms, since it is entirely fictional. We can surmise how one could work... :p

I'm sorry - indeed your "complaints" have been vague and woolly. Could you be more precise, with a little clarity of thought and less ambiguity of language? My posting has given people food for thought, and whether you like the taste or not, or disagree entirely, it does provide that morsel, and hence does form a contribution.
 
That sounds to me like an effective self-destruct from the view-point of the planet. Removal of stargate, and loss of the gate transport to the locals.
That last sentence was redundant. Self-destruct means self-destruct: it destroys itself. Having the EH wrap around the gate itself does not destroy the gate; it removes and relocates it. It's the "repo feature".

We have seen the vortex destroys anything it touches.... therefore, any theories suggested about other roles can be started on this basis: extrapolation. Hence my previous post.
It only destroys when it forms. When it doesn't have the room to form, it dissipates. It destroys because the EH is unstable. It's unstable because it has excess energy. That it has excess, unordered energy is a sign that the EH can do more and that the vortex is short of something else. That something else is expanding the EH by turning the vortex into a larger EH.

And, we don't KNOW how the vortex forms, since it is entirely fictional. We can surmise how one could work...
Didn't the show explain it?

I'm sorry - indeed your "complaints" have been vague and woolly.
They have not if you read the material.
My posting has given people food for thought, and whether you like the taste or not, or disagree entirely, it does provide that morsel, and hence does form a contribution.
not if it's already been gone over

Your lack of personality and understanding is probably why they're not bringing the Reetou back.
 

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