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Disheartening, but not disastrous, news
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Krystal
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Well, I hope things change. Would like to know what is the new Friday lineup they mean. And is that "Dead Like Me" is part of it. For me will be a surprise is they cancel it, because I was thinking Odyssey 5 have more viewers than Jeremiah, and they renew Jeremiah for a second season. Hope they confirm later a new season, hope is the last to lost.
Krystal
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WHY !
I found this at www.scifi.com
Showtime may order a pilot for Clive Barker's Lord of Illusions, a supernatural horror series based on the 1995 movie that starred Scott Bakula, Variety reported. The series would focus on a private investigator whose expertise is the supernatural. The pilot is tentative because the budget could be prohibitive, the trade paper reported.
Meanwhile, Showtime has renewed Jeremiah, with Sean Astin (The Lord of the Rings) joining the cast as a regular. But the cable network has yet to make a decision on a second year of Odyssey 5, which probably won't make it to a second season because Showtime is reconfiguring its Friday lineup to make room for only one SF series, the trade paper reported.
This doesn't sound great
I guess we, the Odyssey 5 fans can argue the fact that the show isn't really scifi... it's really a family drama series with a slight twist I honestly don't care if the series isn't on a Friday Night, as long Showtime keeps ordering more seasons. Then again I live in the U.K, so which night they place it, doesn't affect me. But cancellation does
I found this at www.scifi.com
Showtime may order a pilot for Clive Barker's Lord of Illusions, a supernatural horror series based on the 1995 movie that starred Scott Bakula, Variety reported. The series would focus on a private investigator whose expertise is the supernatural. The pilot is tentative because the budget could be prohibitive, the trade paper reported.
Meanwhile, Showtime has renewed Jeremiah, with Sean Astin (The Lord of the Rings) joining the cast as a regular. But the cable network has yet to make a decision on a second year of Odyssey 5, which probably won't make it to a second season because Showtime is reconfiguring its Friday lineup to make room for only one SF series, the trade paper reported.
This doesn't sound great
I guess we, the Odyssey 5 fans can argue the fact that the show isn't really scifi... it's really a family drama series with a slight twist
I honestly don't care if the series isn't on a Friday Night, as long Showtime keeps ordering more seasons. Then again I live in the U.K, so which night they place it, doesn't affect me. But cancellation does
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Originally posted by william
I guess we, the Odyssey 5 fans can argue the fact that the show isn't really scifi... it's really a family drama series with a slight twist
Yeah, they can put it any other day, anyway is a good series. One of the best they have right now. I hope they see the light.
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I don't know is this is true, but someone post this in the Scifi forum of Farscape. I'm so angry, hope the thing they mention about Sony/Columbia approaching the Scifi to pick it up come true, but since Scifi is doing so many strange things lately I don't know.
showtime cancels 'odyssey 5'
In an e-mail posted to the rec.arts.sf.tv newsgroup, "Odyssey 5" producer Alan Brennert confirmed that Showtime has canceled the freshman sci-fi drama:
Alas, Showtime canceled ODYSSEY this week--despite our being their highest-rated original series! Apparently the powers-that-be want to get out of doing sf (they picked up JEREMIAH, as I understand it, because it's part a longstanding deal with MGM). Sony/Columbia has approached the Sci-Fi Channel about picking it up but we won't know anything until January. For now it's just a lump of coal in our Christmas stockings."
The news comes after several reports of the series' future being in danger. While ratings data available for Showtime is scattershot at best, we can confirm "Odyssey 5" opened to a stellar 3.6 rating in Showtime homes (791,000 of its 21.6 million subscribers) for its June 21 premiere, well above Showtime's 2.7 average rating in its Friday, 10:00/9:00c time period for June of last year. "Odyssey" also ranked well above recent pickup "Street Time," which bowed to a 3.2 rating (690,000 homes) on June 23 with subsequent episodes scoring everything from a 1.4 rating (296,000 homes on July 21) to a 2.1 rating (465,000 homes on August 11). (No rating information beyond the pilot for "Odyssey 5" is available.)
Among Showtime's other series, during the month of April original episodes of "Queer as Folk" scored a 4.1 rating in Showtime homes while "Stargate SG-1" closed its run on the network that same month to a 3.2 rating. Fellow sci-fi series "Jeremiah" managed a 2.6 rating for that period with "The Chris Isaak Show" averaging a 1.9 score. Keep in mind however that as Showtime is not an ad-supported network, renewal decisions are not always based on ratings.
As a whole, Showtime has seen its numbers plunge by 17% from 2001 to 2002 with the network's primetime schedule going from a 2.3 average rating in Showtime homes in the first half of 2001 to a 1.9 rating for the first half of 2002. The pay cable network hopes to rebound from such troubles with three new original series, all set to bow this summer: the Pam Grier/Jennifer Beals lesbian drama "Earthlings," the teen/sci-fi drama "Dead Like Me" and the Eric Stoltz/Felicity Huffman relationship drama "Out of Order." Showtime will also add a new late-night line-up in January, beginning with the comedy/reality series "Penn & Teller: bullsh**."
As for the potential move to the Sci Fi Channel, it certainly paid dividends when "Stargate SG-1" moved to the network from Showtime. The series went from averaging a 3.2 rating (691,840 homes) on Showtime during its final month on the network to a 1.7 rating (1,320,000 homes) on Sci Fi Channel during its summer run, an increase of almost 91%.
Credit: Posted by Davron in the Scifi
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Krystal
showtime cancels 'odyssey 5'
In an e-mail posted to the rec.arts.sf.tv newsgroup, "Odyssey 5" producer Alan Brennert confirmed that Showtime has canceled the freshman sci-fi drama:
Alas, Showtime canceled ODYSSEY this week--despite our being their highest-rated original series! Apparently the powers-that-be want to get out of doing sf (they picked up JEREMIAH, as I understand it, because it's part a longstanding deal with MGM). Sony/Columbia has approached the Sci-Fi Channel about picking it up but we won't know anything until January. For now it's just a lump of coal in our Christmas stockings."
The news comes after several reports of the series' future being in danger. While ratings data available for Showtime is scattershot at best, we can confirm "Odyssey 5" opened to a stellar 3.6 rating in Showtime homes (791,000 of its 21.6 million subscribers) for its June 21 premiere, well above Showtime's 2.7 average rating in its Friday, 10:00/9:00c time period for June of last year. "Odyssey" also ranked well above recent pickup "Street Time," which bowed to a 3.2 rating (690,000 homes) on June 23 with subsequent episodes scoring everything from a 1.4 rating (296,000 homes on July 21) to a 2.1 rating (465,000 homes on August 11). (No rating information beyond the pilot for "Odyssey 5" is available.)
Among Showtime's other series, during the month of April original episodes of "Queer as Folk" scored a 4.1 rating in Showtime homes while "Stargate SG-1" closed its run on the network that same month to a 3.2 rating. Fellow sci-fi series "Jeremiah" managed a 2.6 rating for that period with "The Chris Isaak Show" averaging a 1.9 score. Keep in mind however that as Showtime is not an ad-supported network, renewal decisions are not always based on ratings.
As a whole, Showtime has seen its numbers plunge by 17% from 2001 to 2002 with the network's primetime schedule going from a 2.3 average rating in Showtime homes in the first half of 2001 to a 1.9 rating for the first half of 2002. The pay cable network hopes to rebound from such troubles with three new original series, all set to bow this summer: the Pam Grier/Jennifer Beals lesbian drama "Earthlings," the teen/sci-fi drama "Dead Like Me" and the Eric Stoltz/Felicity Huffman relationship drama "Out of Order." Showtime will also add a new late-night line-up in January, beginning with the comedy/reality series "Penn & Teller: bullsh**."
As for the potential move to the Sci Fi Channel, it certainly paid dividends when "Stargate SG-1" moved to the network from Showtime. The series went from averaging a 3.2 rating (691,840 homes) on Showtime during its final month on the network to a 1.7 rating (1,320,000 homes) on Sci Fi Channel during its summer run, an increase of almost 91%.
Credit: Posted by Davron in the Scifi
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Krystal
I just read the same thing via SciFi Wire.
They also quote the email:
I don't understand the "want to get out of SF" part. Showtime having had six seasons of 'Stargate' doing fairly well for them.
They also quote the email:
I don't understand the "want to get out of SF" part. Showtime having had six seasons of 'Stargate' doing fairly well for them.
This just makes me want to yell profanities at the screen.
Why do they put all this effort into making obviously great shows and then killing them almost at birth? It is just so frustrating. Do you think we are perhaps moving away from multiple series television? Perhaps in a few years the idea of any SF show lasting more than one or maybe two seasons will be quite novel...
I think what really galls me is that out of all the SF series running at the moment, the dullest, Enterprise, seems to be the one with the most secure future.
Sorry to Enterprise fans - I watch it, but it is a bit of a disappointment to me, especially in comparision to slightly more daring fare like Firefly, Jeremiah, Farscape, and our beloved O5
Why do they put all this effort into making obviously great shows and then killing them almost at birth? It is just so frustrating. Do you think we are perhaps moving away from multiple series television? Perhaps in a few years the idea of any SF show lasting more than one or maybe two seasons will be quite novel...
I think what really galls me is that out of all the SF series running at the moment, the dullest, Enterprise, seems to be the one with the most secure future.
Sorry to Enterprise fans - I watch it, but it is a bit of a disappointment to me, especially in comparision to slightly more daring fare like Firefly, Jeremiah, Farscape, and our beloved O5
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Originally posted by Tabitha
Why do they put all this effort into making obviously great shows and then killing them almost at birth? It is just so frustrating. Do you think we are perhaps moving away from multiple series television? Perhaps in a few years the idea of any SF show lasting more than one or maybe two seasons will be quite novel...
Yeah, I have to agree that is really frustrating. I hope things improve more, I don't want to think that sooner the only programs will be reality shows or things like that.
Stargate was definitely one of the best they have and should prove to them that SF have potential. An Odyssey 5 is one of the new series that more potential have show to have for them. That is why this take me by surprise.
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Im suprised to hear this already. I so agree with Tabitha that Enterprise is at best "dull" its a very bad for a "trek" series.
Stargate my fave is now dieing a slow death, they dont know which way to take the show some of the acting and plots are just comical for me the magic is lost.
O5 was and is a real breath of fresh air. Its not been done before and it is being written wonderfully.
Well same old story for us fans losing out again!!
Ive seen ads on BB2 for a speilberg series called "Taken" looks like a alien abduction thing, anyone know how good it is?
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Stargate my fave is now dieing a slow death, they dont know which way to take the show some of the acting and plots are just comical for me the magic is lost.
O5 was and is a real breath of fresh air. Its not been done before and it is being written wonderfully.
Well same old story for us fans losing out again!!
Ive seen ads on BB2 for a speilberg series called "Taken" looks like a alien abduction thing, anyone know how good it is?
Ranger