3.20: The Forgotten

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This episode continues a multi-episode arc that began with 'Azati Prime'.

Two high-ranking Xindi offer to stop the launch of their superweapon if Archer can prove they've been manipulated. Meanwhile, the crew mourns their lost mates.

from StarTrek.com

The NX-01 is slowly pulling itself back together while making progress toward saving Earth in "The Forgotten," directed by LeVar Burton and featuring a cameo from a famous animator.
In the story, written by Chris Black and David A. Goodman, Archer has gotten the attention of two high-ranking Xindi — weapon designer Degra (whom we got to know very well in "Stratagem") and an Arboreal council member — but they demand absolute proof of his claims that they've been manipulated into their hostilities against the human race. If sufficiently convinced, they promise to stop the planet-killing weapon from being launched. Meanwhile, amidst continuing repair work, the deaths of about a fifth of the Enterprise crew from recent events weigh heavily on the survivors, especially Trip, who is having a very hard time writing a letter to the parents of one of the deceased.

Randy Oglesby and Rick Worthy reprise their ongoing roles as two of the more open-minded Xindi on the otherwise hard-line council. Less accommodating is a "Reptilian Captain" who comes into play in this episode, played by Bob Morrisey. Morrisey was the Vulcan "Dr. Strom" in "Stigma."

Making a brief appearance as an "Engineer" who gets snapped at by a stressed Tucker is a fan of the show, Seth MacFarlane. MacFarlane is the creator of the satirical animated comedy Family Guy and the voice of many of its characters including Peter Griffin, Stewie and Brian. He was also a producer on The Pitts starring the late Kellie Waymire ("Ensign Cutler"), among other notable comedy and animation credits. MacFarlane has a sobering story where a bizarre twist of fate allows him to be with us today: On September 11, 2001, he was scheduled to board American Airlines Flight 11 out of Boston, but a travel agency error caused him to arrive late and miss the plane. An hour later that plane slammed into the World Trade Center. Talk about close calls.

Production on "The Forgotten" commenced on a Friday two weeks ago that overlapped with additional photography on "Damage" and two other episodes, so while most of the cast was on B-unit, Burton started off easy with scenes that only utilized Connor Trinneer, Jolene Blalock and newcomer Kipleigh Brown as "Crewman Taylor." By the following Monday, things were in full gear with scenes on the Bridge, Ready Room, Launch Bay Two, Mess Hall, Corridors, etc., all still exhibiting a severe state of disrepair but gradually getting cleaned up. Like the last two episodes, "Emergency Lighting" was the scheme on virtually every ship set, along with smoke and sparks work, though not quite as much.

Swing sets included several portions of Degra's Ship, and the bridge of a Reptilian Ship which will only be seen via viewscreen. Did you know Enterprise has a "Morgue"? That's where Archer has been keeping the three dead Reptilians recovered in "Carpenter Street."

The principal schedule on "The Forgotten" officially concluded on Monday of this week, but shooting immediately went into B-unit on Tuesday for some very intricate effects-oriented shots on the Ship's Hull, where Trip and Malcolm step out in EV suits to stop a massive plasma flare threatening to rip the ship apart. Though fewer in number than the Hull scenes in last year's "Minefield," these shots were perhaps more complicated due to the lighting considerations of the bluish "plasma flare." Burton directed with visual effects supervisor Dan Curry at his side, but it is likely Curry will require more photography in the future as the scenes are pieced together. While Trinneer and Dominic Keating were working here, the rest of the cast were on another soundstage taking direction from Roxann Dawson on the next episode, "E²" (pronounced "E-Squared").

This is the first writing collaboration between Black and Goodman. Black, working solo, scripted the recent "Proving Ground" and the upcoming "Doctor's Orders," along with many prior Enterprise credits. Goodman, who is responsible for the Futurama episode "Where No Fan Has Gone Before," also wrote "North Star," "Judgment" and "Precious Cargo."

This is Burton's third stint at the helm this season, after "Extinction" and "Similitude," breaking his Enterprise record of two per year. This, of course, on top of his many directorial credits on the prior three Trek shows.
 
I don't have many criticisms of this and thought is was one of the best episodes we've had. I'm aware that many people would rather have stand-alone episodes but I much prefer these story-arc ones. And they have really made them as if they planned them all from the start.

Trip and T'pol now really get to work on both their characters' angst.

But didn't Trip's confrontations with Degra seem a little forced? I know that having the engineer die reminded him of his sister, and feelings that he had not been dealing with, but he is a Starfleet Officer and should act like one, and not endanger the mission.


Trivia:

Cmd. Trip Tucker (The Forgotten) commenting on the Xindii superweapon It'd take at least a thousand starships like Enterprise to blow up an entire planet.

Han Solo (Star Wars: Ep IV) on discovering that the Death Star has destroyed Alderaan It would take 1,000 ships with more firepower than I've...
 
Originally posted by Dave
I don't have many criticisms of this and thought is was one of the best episodes we've had. I'm aware that many people would rather have stand-alone episodes but I much prefer these story-arc ones. And they have really made them as if they planned them all from the start.

Trip and T'pol now really get to work on both their characters' angst.

But didn't Trip's confrontations with Degra seem a little forced? I know that having the engineer die reminded him of his sister, and feelings that he had not been dealing with, but he is a Starfleet Officer and should act like one, and not endanger the mission.


Trivia:

Cmd. Trip Tucker (The Forgotten) commenting on the Xindii superweapon It'd take at least a thousand starships like Enterprise to blow up an entire planet.

Han Solo (Star Wars: Ep IV) on discovering that the Death Star has destroyed Alderaan It would take 1,000 ships with more firepower than I've...

Agreed, it was a good ep and it showed the limits that primate xindi are now willing to go to for Archer and how seriously they take him.

On Trip, i concur with your point that his reaction did seem irrational for a starfleet officer and a senior one at that although there was the lack of sleep and how that might've affected him. After Phlox told him to get 4 hrs of sleep and not a minute less he didn't actually go and get some Zzzzz's or did he? I did miss a couple of minutes when i went to get a drink.

If people don't like these extended story arc episodes there is a stand alone one next week i think. A temporal one isn't it, i tell you, you hear in some of the other series how much Kirk dabbled with time but Archer is doing quite well at the minute in that area.

Oh and one thing i forgot, T'pol early in the ep visits the doc to talk about her lack of control over the emotions and how her usual methods aren't as effective. Well it does appear that they're here to stay [answering one of my own questions froma previous thread there a bit] so we will see how that develops. If there is a real pressure situation in the upcoming episodes, you nver know it could be like Data with his emotion chip in the early days. Then again she has already experienced them for a fair while. Oh, i'm typing your thoughts out loud again. ;)

Nick, :cool:
 
I have to agree, these last three episodes have been a real treat in Star Trek terms. Each has flowed tightly from the last, with strong story and some very solid character work. It is what Enterprise should have been all the way through, then perhaps it would not be so obviously drinking in The Last Chance Saloon.

Next weeks, hopefully, will key in just as well.

As for Trip. Yes it was a bit forced, but I think it was wrking the other way. He was trying to avoid going totally OTT.
I would also say a lot of what there is in T'pot's and Trips relationship showed during Trip's breakdown. There is much sympathy in T'Pol for the engineer, more so than for Archer, where it is loyalty.
 

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