Stephenson, Neal: Cryptonomicon

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Neal Stephenson: Cryptonomicon

http://www.cryptonomicon.com/

I'm not sure that I would personally class this as Science Fiction, more action/adventure with a technological bent, but it seems to come under the wing of Cyberculture and it is in the SciFi section of every bookshop that I've been into. None of the technology is far fetched though the ultimate reason for forming the company Epiphyte is futuristic. I do think it is an excellent read, and a gripping and page turning thriller.

It is set during both the Second World War and the present time, concerned with both Nazi/Japanese Gold and an attempt to establish a free South East Asian 'data haven' for digital information in the present day. It also follows several generations of the same families whose lives have become inextricably entwined, even if they don’t realise themselves.

I won't spoil the plot for those that haven't read it, because the story really jumps around and alters with each chapter, but that does make it confusing at times and sometimes I needed to go back and read a part again to be sure I read it right.

One thing I didn't like was the killing off and then resurrecting of a major character. It was necessary to keep you guessing about his identity, but describing someone’s feelings on the death of a comrade and having a doctor sign a death certificate -- to me this means the person is certainly dead. It was a clumsy way to achieve the suspense and I felt my time had been wasted wondering who the person was.

Another thing I didn't like was his messing around with geography. He does this in the Southwest Pacific with an island called Kinakuta that cannot exist where he places it, and isn't Brunei, but has a leader who is the cousin of the Sultan of Brunei. He also does it in the UK with a strange place in the north of Scotland called Outer and Inner Qwghlm. Qwghlm is not the Hebrides since they don't speak Gaelic but a language that as he describes it could only be Welsh. Welsh was used for coding messages like the Americans used Navajo. So why not just call it Wales? Well, I think his problem was that the narrative called for a U-boat to be stranded on a shore for a considerable time, and having that in the shipping lanes out of Liverpool would be even more unbelievable than having a castle built on the Outer Hebrides. I’m not sure why he couldn’t use the real places when he uses real people such as Alan Turing as characters. But I found it annoying.

On the plus side, I found it excellent the way he made what he wrote, essentially a history lesson in Cryptology and early Computing, so interesting. I would compare it favourably to Michael Crichton, who also explains the science he uses in his books, but in his the narrative always seems to stop for a while, whereas here it just seems to flow together, even when explaining computer jargon and how to decode cyphers.

He manages to pack in the cracking of the Enigma and other Axis codes, Colossus, and the development of digital memory, Huffduff, and Van Eck Phreaking; while taking in every part of the world, including North Africa, Italy, Sweden, Los Angeles, Seattle, Brisbane, Shanghai, Tokyo and Manila, with a wealth of detailed and interesting characters such as gung ho, morphine-addicted marine Bobby Shaftoe, and Randy Waterhouse, a crypto geek in love with Bobby's tough-as-nails scuba diving grand-daughter, Amy.

There is a lot of humour in the book too, especially in the digressions such as Randy’s digression describing how to eat Cap ‘n Crunch with ice cold milk. Some of the other digressions I am unable to write about on this forum!

I originally thought that it was going to be a touch too long at 910 pages, but the ending is a little unsatisfactory and I really wanted to know more. Apparently there will be sequels.
 
Re: Neal Stephenson: Cryptonomicon

Originally posted by Dave
One thing I didn't like was the killing off and then resurrecting of a major character. It was necessary to keep you guessing about his identity, but describing someone’s feelings on the death of a comrade and having a doctor sign a death certificate -- to me this means the person is certainly dead. It was a clumsy way to achieve the suspense and I felt my time had been wasted wondering who the person was.
I'm now reading 'Quicksilver' and I see where this is all leading. The 'death' of Enoch Root was real. He appears in 'Quicksilver' and the rest of the Baroque Cycle books which are a kind of 300 year prequel. He is an alchemist and the cigar box holds some kind of philosophers stone (which is how he cures Shaftoe) and how he was resurrected himself. When he says that he can only speak Italian with an obscure 16th century accent, he is not using a figure of speech, it really meant it.
Originally posted by Dave
I'm not sure that I would personally class this as Science Fiction, more action/adventure with a technological bent,
According to Neal Stephenson, it is this business with Enoch Root that makes it Science Fiction. I only now appreciate the number of levels on which 'Cryptonomicon' works.
 
My take:

Sometimes a book comes along that leaves the reader dazed with the author's vision, scope and ambition. Neal Stephenson has done this a few times with his work, but arguably never better than in Cryptonomicon.



The novel follows two stories in parallel. In WWII, a group of cryptologists based at Bletchley Park are struggling to crack the German codes so the British and Americans can more effectively combat the German U-boat threat. In the present, a group of businessmen are attempting to build a data haven in the (fictious) Pacific state of Kinakuta. Both plotlines draw on codes, cryptology, cryptoanalysis and the blurring of the genres of science fiction and historical fiction (a line which is even further muddied by the subsequent Baroque Cycle, which serves as a quasi-prequel series to this novel).

It is difficult to describe the book. It's scope is huge, sprawling across Europe, America, the Phillippines and other parts of the world in two different time periods, incorporating dozens of major characters of note and very effectively educating the reader about the science of codes and puzzles (far more effectively than the amateurish Da Vinci Code) before the two storylines very effectively come together at the end of the book. Stephenson's style is very readable, occasionally dense, but often very funny. There are longeurs and apparently unrelated episodes in the book which are masterfully re-incorporated into the greater narrative to form a cohesive whole. It's a book about secrets, what it costs to hold those secrets, and the consequences when those secrets are revealed. It's a war story and a techno-thriller at the same time. It's an adventure story about the hunt for lost treasure and also a book about the value of information. It is a unique work.

Cryptonomicon won the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 2000 and unquestionably deserved it. If The Separation was the first truly great SF novel of the 21st Century, than Cryptonomicon is almost certainly the last great SF novel of the 20th, and one of the few works that I would apply the label 'genius' to.

Cryptonomicon (*****) is available from Arrow Books in the UK (with a gorgeous cover painting) and from Avon in the USA.
 
I read Cryptonomicon a few years back. Agree, awesome book; a lot of math, programming, cryptology in there, all topics I love...If memory serves, Stephenson himself I is Linux and coding enthusiast.

Cheers, DeepThought
 
Does his books have action in them?
I said that already - action/adventure, action/thriller. Cryptonomicon has very little science fiction, like the Baroque Cycle books it contains some real historical characters. It has several war sequences and an almost 'Alistair MacLean' type ending. The Baroque Cycle books (which are essentially prequels) have swashbuckling pirate adventures, South American cities of gold and alchemy experiments in old London. It is difficult to say much without spoiling, but I'm still looking for a sequel set in the future that will more fully explain Enoch Root.
 
You'll find that Stephenson is one of the best writers in the business for me, pretty much all of his material is par excellence. I've got all of his published works..perhaps you can tell I'm a fan huh?...:)

He's also an interesting guy when you hear him talk and having a Science/Physics background with a ongoing interest in mathematics makes his books a fascinating and frankly at time awesome read. You should try his Baroque Cycle, staggeringly good stuff!

Cheers....
 
for the most part, i enjoyed Cryptonomicon, but it dragged, and dragged, and dragged!! that man needs a stricter editor. the digressions nearly wrecked the book for me.

will i pick up more stephenson? unfortunately, probably not, unless i'm planning to be stuck in antarctica for a few months with nothing to do.
 
Actually I enjoyed the little "side-trips" as I found them to be quite interesting and did tie into the overall story arc. I'm a details person so I guess that suits my sensibilities. I just love the way he writes and the obvious research and sound knowledge he has on certain subjects.
 
...the digressions nearly wrecked the book for me.
I also enjoyed the "side-trips" in Crytonomicon, but I do think the Baroque Cycle books are over long. On the other hand, Anathem is very long, but I thought that was warranted. Certainly, you do need to set some time aside to read them. ;)

...when you hear him talk and having a Science/Physics background with a ongoing interest in mathematics makes his books a fascinating and frankly at time awesome read.
I had the impression that he was a Geography major who switched to Computing - on checking it seems he was, but that he also minored in Physics, and that his father was a Physics professor and his mother was a biochemist. The rest of the family are engineers who he dubbed "petrol-heads" according to wiki. He is obviously the rebel of the family then, Zodiac, being an eco-thriller.
...I've got all of his published works...
I thought I had too. I've even read Interface which was co-authored with Frederick George, who I believe is an uncle. However, I've just looked at a complete list of his works and have never heard of the non-fiction In the Beginning... was the Command Line or his first book, The Big U, and there is another co-authored with Frederick George called Cobweb. Are they any good?
 
I thought I had too. I've even read Interface which was co-authored with Frederick George, who I believe is an uncle. However, I've just looked at a complete list of his works and have never heard of the non-fiction In the Beginning... was the Command Line or his first book, The Big U, and there is another co-authored with Frederick George called Cobweb. Are they any good?
DOH!...slaps head twice in one evening. Sorry Dave, I don't have those but I've seen them plenty of times in the shops. They didn't fit my overall idea of speculative fiction that I like, so I should have said I've got everything he's published that I want or am likely to like or that will fit into the theme of my private library.

Cobweb is a political thriller and Big U Turn is a satirical piece on University Campus life, hence not the immediate appeal for me.

I heard an interview with Stephenson not that long ago where he talks about Anathem which sits unread on my shelves BTW; may save that one for the Easter break. He's a pretty smart cookie, was talking about some cool software applications and mathematical modelling he was doing with his company for local businesses.

The Baroque Cycle was incredibly dense I agree but it was a fantastic read and being someone obsessed with details right up my alley.

No doubting Stephenson's brilliance and the more people who discover him the better.

Cheers...:)
 
Just joined this forum as I'm reading Cryptonomicon for the third time.

If you don't like a digressive style don't try to read this book - I wonder if the author is a fan of those long, rambling 18th C novels, like Tristram Shandy. But it is all held together by a strong plot - it's probably easier to see this when re-reading, as first time through it's hard to see where things are leading. The WWII strand of the narrative is stronger at first than the present-day strand, which takes more time to develop. Stephenson's habit of switching between the flippant and the gruesome in the space of a page or two does take some getting used to. Some minor niggles, though. I don't understand, even at third reading, the stuff about giant lizards. Is this some kind of in-joke that I haven't picked up? I also think that Qwghlm is a joke that falls pretty flat. Unfortunately it comes back in The Baroque Cycle, as well, and at even greater length. I can't see the Welsh connection (speaking some Welsh probably doesn't help me in this context) as Welsh has loads of vowels (including "w" and "y"). It's closer to one of these languages like Hebrew where in the written language vowels are taken as being understood. Has anyone written up a glossary of Stephenson's language? He's not the sort of guy who would just make it all up, I'm sure. The climate of Qwghlm is much more related to the furthest-flung islands of NW Scotland than the UK mainland, though he could have placed more emphasis on unbearable small, biting insects.

If you like Stephenson's other books it would be a mistake not to read The Big U and Cobweb because they don't have a particular label attached to them. Bothe are well worth reading. It surprised me how much of the recognisable Stephenson style is present in the earliest of his books, The Big U.

Quicksilver and its successors are also worthwhile, though they are very baggy books indeed, even compared to Cryptonomicon. Anathem is OK but doesn't match his previous high point, in my opinion. For example, some of the long, long explanations about orbital dynamics drove me nuts - these things can be said so much more succinctly with a few equations!
 
Do you have to be mathematically minded to enjoy the book, because I loved Snow Crash, but heard Cryptonomicon is almost impossible to understand or enjoy if you don't enjoy maths problems or understand coding.
 
Do you have to be mathematically minded to enjoy the book, because I loved Snow Crash, but heard Cryptonomicon is almost impossible to understand or enjoy if you don't enjoy maths problems or understand coding.

Good question. And one I'd like to see an answer for while I wait here, figuratively weighing my unread copy of the book, trying to decide whether to take the plunge. I'm someone who was forced to take trigonometry and statistics in college and barely survived. If I have to be a Whif 'n' Proof fan to read this book, I'm afraid that would be a deal breaker.
 
Do you have to be mathematically minded to enjoy the book, because I loved Snow Crash, but heard Cryptonomicon is almost impossible to understand or enjoy if you don't enjoy maths problems or understand coding.

That is completely false.

Good question. And one I'd like to see an answer for while I wait here, figuratively weighing my unread copy of the book, trying to decide whether to take the plunge. I'm someone who was forced to take trigonometry and statistics in college and barely survived. If I have to be a Whif 'n' Proof fan to read this book, I'm afraid that would be a deal breaker.

Alright it's been about eight years since I read the book but if memory serves (which usually doesn't) there are only about 2 or 3 occasions where he goes into technical detail...either of which if you skip, wont hinder your enjoyment of the novel. They are there as an added bonus, if you like it then dig in, if not its still written in a way that you can get a general understanding. Of course it's about Cryptography, math, computer science, IT etc. etc. but more in a historical sense; some characters are major players in the development of some of these fields. All this aside, there is an action packed and at times violent and gritty story just like in Snow Crash.

My explanation probably fall short of enticing anyone into reading this gem of a novel, the best way is to dip in and find out for yourselves.:)
 
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I third Deep Thought. I don't understand math or coding, but enjoyed the book immensely. It is long but certainly not boring and I like to get my money's worth.

I do wish I could find just one story where every genius hacker is not something of a social misfit and/or weirdo. I am friends with one actual REAL rocket scientist and he is about the most charming and socially adept person I know. It is certainly not an unforgivable fault in a book though.

One other tiny problem is that since the book was written in the 1990s and is largely about computers it has some slight dating. Some main characters own a computer company but there is, of course, nothing mentioning Facebook or Twitter and very little on cellphone culture, though everyone has laptops at all times. Mind, none of these characters would use either service, due to the nature of their business, (except maybe for spoofing) but the lack of even a nod to them detracts some from versimilitude
 
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