The Goa'uld vs the Borg

[Dawes]

Kind of off topic, but how do you think that a confrontation between these two races would play out?

 

[PTeppic]

Borg would wipe the floor with the Goa'uld...

Although the Goa'uld clearly have some serious scientists (seen in Evolution Pt 2, for example) they take several days/weeks/months to adapt to each new threat thrown at them by enemies (e.g. the SGC).

In contrast, the Borg can adapt (e.g. to new weapons) within half a dozen encounters. They can also pass on their knowledge from each encounter almost instantly to each other with the hive mind thing... the Jaffa and Goa'uld can't do that: and communications is the key to any battle. (Hence the disruption of it by the Enterprise in Best of Both Worlds).

I'd also suggest that whilst the Goa'uld, per se, are actually quite few in number, their main troops are the relatively unprotected and highly expendable Jaffa. In contrast, each of the Borg, who seem to number in their thousands (or more), are equally protected, adapted and so-on.

 

[Dave]

I agree with PTeppic.

Both threats were seriously weakened by the writers of their respective series over time, the Borg even more so than the Goa'uld, and man should not have been able to defeat either.

Even allowing for the different technologies, the Hive mind concept makes the Borg (and now the Wraith too) much more dangerous. Even that was watered down in Star Trek with the addition of the Queen Borg.

 

[HeyLynny]

I think it would be really cool to watch the Borg wipe out the Gou'ld. Why didn't Carter think of that on the show?????

 

[Dave]

Carter did think of it, but Jack knocked the idea back. He compared them to the 'Tin Man', said that they would need to suck lunch through a straw, and called them 'oilcan heads'.

 

[Gemsong]

Imagine the Goa'uld at their best and the Borg at their best.


Not that I'm the violent type, but it would be a battle truly worth watching.

Not that it would last long.

 

[Dawes]

The Goa'uld use the Stargate and wormholes to rapidly move around the galaxy, while the Borg (as far as I know) use their Warp-drive capable Cubes. It would seem that the Goa'uld have the advantage in mobility.

As far a weaponry is concerned, I'm guessing that the Borg would have an advantage here. Maybe.

 

[PTeppic]

Good point about the use of Stargates. But the armoured Borg drones are kind of bright by being hive-minded and adaptable. The Jaffa are, well, no offense, Jaffa. On the verge of brain-washed, not encouraged to think and basically cannon-fodder. We can assume the Borg would adapt to staff weapon blasts within about 5 minutes: so a mass onslaught battle, which seems to be the way that Goa'uld typically do battle against each other, is going to go nowhere fast for the Jaffa. But the Goa'uld will be able to run away, far and fast, through the gate. Maybe come up with a bio-weapon?

The Kull warriors - interesting: again their weapons would be ineffective in a few minutes, but their own armour... it might take the Borg a while to adapt to that. But with no weapons, what use would the Kull be...

 

[ray gower]

Just in interest, why would the Borg be interested in the Goa'uld?

It strikes me that they have little to offer technically, they are just using the gates, they appear to have no means of creating them.

So except possibly for nuisance value, the Borg have no major reason to get embroiled

 

[PTeppic]

But imagine the possibilities of a Borg drone with a snake inside...

 

[darkghost]

oh a snake inside a drone tht would be good mainly to see a drones eyes glow might get some colour into those faces:alienooh:

 

[Marvin]

Surely the Borg would just assimilate the gate technology - try stopping them then

 

[PTeppic]

and worse, adapt it. Gate-weapons of the sort used by the SGC. Ring-transporter technology and weapons. Yes, the Goa'uld have ha'tak class vessels, and more, but most of it will be old-hat to the Borg. But gate stuff... woo.

 

[Connavar]

The Goal'uld would crush The Borg cause of their two greatest weapons. Huge advanced ships that can destroy worlds on their own and The Jaffa.


They have many millions of powered warriors with their blaster weapons to throw at the Borg. That plus the huge ships. See what one Teal'c can do in a battle and think of millions like him.

The Borg dont have Sam to save them with some crazy idea

 

[PTeppic]

Whilst the Goa'uld have many dozens (or possibly even hundreds) of Ha'tak ships, the Borg would adapt to the technology and create shields. It's what they do. They might lose a couple of cubes but then they'd been virtually immune. And there is almost no way the Goa'uld can counter-adapt. As for the Jaffa, what and where are they going to fight? They're highly vulnerable to most weapons whilst conversely using a non-adaptive staff weapon that will be adapted against within minutes. Sorry, but I don't see how the snake-heads have a chance. I also reckon the Borg, given their vast experience of technology from across the galaxy, would develop an anti-symbiote virus or bacteria, as a weapon, in addition to plain old energy weapons.

 

[Talysia]

I have to agree - I think the Borg would beat the Goa'uld entirely. Although I wouldn't want to think what would happen if the Borg met the Replicators...

 

[Connavar]

Seeing what Replicator does to wraith, adapt so fast that no weapons can hurt them.


Not even Borg,Wrait,goa'uld together would be those machines. Specially the ones in Atlantis, smarter and ancient tech that kills most things.


They are faster and smarter versions of Borg really.

 

[PTeppic]

Agree - they're ultimately the Borg of the SG-1 universe: technological scavengers, highly adaptive with shared intelligence. Apart from being artificial rather than biological in nature there's almost no difference.

 

[Talysia]

Yes, that's what I thought, and given the similarities, I wondered if that contest might not turn into a stalemate.

 

[Somni]

Hmm, stalemate or would the borg and replicators 'assimilate' one another to become one superrace?