V for Vendetta (2006)

V for Vendetta

Has anyone else seen this movie? I think it's the best movie of the year so far. It's about government totalitarianism, and the suppression of ideas and of love. I even wept for the victims of government persecution. This is a deeply affecting film with an important message, and I highly recommend it!
 
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Not seen it yet, but really want to.

From the reviews I've seen, it seems they have remained true to the original graphic novel (which is absolutely fantastic, if you really enjoyed the film you will adore the graphic novel), so definitely worth my cinema money.
 
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Well this is surprise since the trailer I saw for it made it look like another brainless action movie. Well, let's see.
 
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Well, I have been reading on a number of forums that Alan Moore asked Warner Bros to remove his name from the criedits. I don't think that bodes well for the film, when the creator of the original does that. His work was an opinion of the late Thatcher government of the 1980's.
 
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SJAB said:
Well, I have been reading on a number of forums that Alan Moore asked Warner Bros to remove his name from the criedits. I don't think that bodes well for the film, when the creator of the original does that. His work was an opinion of the late Thatcher government of the 1980's.
I've been wondering about this myself. To be fair to the guys making the movie (the [FONT=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wachowski brothers) Allen Moor is probably a hard man to statisfy - he's pretty bright, and I imagine quite protective of his creations. He either called the script he saw "inane" or "asinine" - can't recall which. The biggest dissapointment in what I've heard..




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Is that the book really was meant to show how a "trusted" government could become a corrupt repressive one. The movie has converted this into a "hey the Germans actually won the war, and this is what happened" type of thing. IMHO, this robs the story of some of it's punch. :mad:
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mikeo said:
I've been wondering about this myself. To be fair to the guys making the movie (the [FONT=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wachowski brothers) Allen Moor is probably a hard man to statisfy - he's pretty bright, and I imagine quite protective of his creations. He either called the script he saw "inane" or "asinine" - can't recall which. The biggest dissapointment in what I've heard..




*** possible spoiler alert, I don't know how much you all know about the movie/book*****






Is that the book really was meant to show how a "trusted" government could become a corrupt repressive one. The movie has converted this into a "hey the Germans actually won the war, and this is what happened" type of thing. IMHO, this robs the story of some of it's punch. :mad:
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I don't think thats a huge issue tbh - it still gets you thinking about the government in power today.

I saw it last night and we really liked it. Even though parts of it reminded me of a itv cop / murder mystery / detective drama!! I haven't read the comic in ages, which i think is good because I think you will always compare and contrast it.

Truth be told, the only problem I had with the film was the overuse of the word 'b*llocks' - is that what americans think all will brits say :confused::D
 
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It's not out yet in Holland, but I think I'm going to watch it.
 
“People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.â€

‘V for Vendetta’ is yet another comic book turned into a big-screen, big-budget spectacle. The Wachowskis (The Matrix) latest film is a very 'Orwellian' dystopia with loud anti-authoritarian and anti-establishment messages, though they only wrote the screenplay and produced the film. It was directed by James McTeigue (their assistant director from The Matrix movies.) Its release was delayed for six months because of the terrorist bombings in London, I assume because it could be construed as supporting terrorism. The writer of the original ’80 graphic novel, Moore had his name removed from the project, wary of Hollywood after the adaptation of another of his works, 'The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'.

I really rated this film. I must remember to stick to my own rule of not listening to film reviews. I almost didn’t go to see this because of what I heard; that it had all the bad points of the ‘Matrix trilogy’ and none of the good, and that it was slow. One reviewer said she walked out after half an hour when Natalie Portman’s English accent began to slip. I really don’t see how you can review a film if you don’t watch the whole thing.

It is set in a future "Greater" Britain which is ruled by a totalitarian regime, headed by a “Supreme Chancellor.†The population lives under curfews and in fear of the “finger men.†There is religious and homo-sexual persecution, racism and strict controls of freedom of the press. Many works of art, literature and music have been banned and destroyed. Private conversations are regularly monitored, people are under constant surveillance and their travel is restricted.

This all happened within only 20 years, beginning in 2015 with some kind of World War in which biological weapons were used. In the "former United States" the population was largely wiped out and has been in a state of civil war ever since. England instituted a ‘stronger’ government after the virus attacks of ‘St Mary’s’ school, ‘Three Waters’ and the London Underground, and would seem to have survived largely unscathed. But what did it lose to achieve that? And who was really responsible for those attacks? And does violence beget violence?

The population “sleepwalks†through the excesses of its government. A government that feeds its citizens lies and counts on the apathy of the populace to stay in power is as topical as you can get and John Hurt's chancellor, Adam Sutler, vacillates between spittle-flecked invectives and exhortations of "strength through unity and unity through faith." Any connections made between governments and world leaders past or present are strictly intentional though probably a little dodgy. I would hope that while we can still make a film like this, that future scenario is unlikely.

V (Hugo Weaving) is a mysterious, poetry-spouting rogue who wears a mask of 17th century English revolutionary Guy Fawkes and models his exploits after this rebel who nearly blew up Parliament in 1605. V plans on doing the same thing and even gives the current English regime a one-year notice, as he takes over the airwaves and seeks support from the oppressed citizenry of England, imploring them to speak out against the oppression they live under by meeting him at Parliament a year hence to witness its destruction. Having destroyed the Old Bailey the night before, the authorities take V seriously, especially after he escapes their clutches at the state-controlled television station, BTN (British Television Network.)

Caught in the middle of all this is Evey (Natalie Portman), a young television production assistant rescued by V when finger men catch her outside past curfew. It turns out that Evey has a shady past of her own, and she soon finds herself a fugitive. After aiding V in turn when he raids her workplace, she's forced to seek refuge in his Shadow Gallery, an underground cultural repository filled with media and artefacts reclaimed from the government censors.

V begins killing off a number of supposedly unrelated high ranking individuals including the television presenter Lewis Prothero (Roger Allam), whose career is built on hate and bombast, and the Bishop of England, who’s revealed to be a paedophile. As Chief Inspector Finch (Stephen Rea) digs deeper and deeper into the case and uncovers long-held secrets involving ethnic cleansing, concentration camps and the medical experimentation on humans that occurred there, and he begins to understand how deep the level of corruption is in the government and just what V’s motivation might be.

I won’t spoil the rest of the story but it is worth seeing.
 
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Mostly people say it is very good but not so faithful. I haven't read the comics and I'm able to enjoy things on their own merits, so I am thinking I will probably enjoy it. Alan Moore is a good writer but he is also a bit of a bitter fusspot, so I largely ignore him. Anyway what does he know he worships a Roman sock-puppet.
 
I caught this on Sunday at the local 'plex and thought it very well put together. A splattering of local UK talent (including Stephen Fry in a cliched but entertaining role), though Natalie's accent was a little strained.

Kept things moving all the way through I thought with a few twisty turny bits in the middle. Though I'm sure more respectable films have done the same subject better I found it thought provoking with plenty of action as well. Pity they left the matrix-esque sfx in the fight at the end weren't used earlier.
 
Hmm... Is that a "recommend in theater" viewing or recommend, but can wait for the DVD? I'd like to see this movie, but am still gauging whether or not to see it in the movie theater.
 
I recommend 'in theatre'. It was very quiet when I went. I couldn't say if that was bad critical reviews, the subject matter not interesting people or poor marketing by Warners. It isn't anything like my all time favourite film, but as I said, I almost didn't go at all and throughly enjoyed it.

So, does anyone want to discuss it? (propably spoilers)

Did you like the bits the Wachowskis' added to the original story such as references to 'Avian Flu' or think them too obvious and heavy-handed?

Even before the Terrorist attack in London, this was bound to be a controversial film. Why do you think so many weighty British actors were onboard? I'm interested in family history, and in the programme 'Who do you think you are?' Stephen Fry cried on TV when he found his relations had been murdered at Auschwitz. I can see why he might have reasons. There was also John Hurt, Charles Dance, Sinead Cusak.

Will American audiences and audiences outside Britain understand the references to Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot?

Do you think that violence begats violence? I read that V is really Malcolm X - what are the similarities?

Do you think that we would ever allow such a government to rise in Britain whatever the circumstances?

Do you think it attacks the Christian church? I didn't think so, but this is what I've read:

"The Bishop was a paedophile" - a number of priests have been found to be, it doesn't mean that they all are. It's a cliché but then its only a story.

"The symbol of the party looks like a Crucifix turned to look like a Swastika" - I actually thought it was meant to look like an adapted Cross of St George - the symbol of England - it looked more like the cross on the 2003-2005 Football strips than it did like anything else.

Do people read too much into films? (yes probably)
 
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It's a wierd film. Just when you think the plot is being strange it'll wander off and do something else strange.

Seeing it on the big screen may have made it more effective for me, but I thought Valerie's story was v. powerful.

So some kudos from me for the film, as a result, overall.
 
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kaneda said:
Truth be told, the only problem I had with the film was the overuse of the word 'b*llocks' - is that what americans think all will brits say :confused::D
They don't? :eek:
I thought bollocks and ****** was all that brits said :D
 
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I thought it was okay. It certainly made me think about our own government and how things can change for any of us. Honestly, I think it would be better to have read the book after hearing some of the posts here and I will do that. Though I wouldn't say I was disapointed, because I didn't really have anything to base it on, it was lacking in some areas. Overall though I found it very interesting as well as entertaining and would have to watch it again to pick up on some of the things that may have went by the first time. In films such as this one there is always something deeper than what you see on the surface.
 
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SJAB said:
Well, I have been reading on a number of forums that Alan Moore asked Warner Bros to remove his name from the criedits. I don't think that bodes well for the film, when the creator of the original does that. His work was an opinion of the late Thatcher government of the 1980's.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with V for Vendetta in particular, it's more a personal rebellion against the movie industry spured on past experiances.
 

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