Glassbooks of the Dreameaters

marianne-read

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Hello,

Im looking to discuss this, its a gothic noval being released in Dickens style instalments. Im hoping to introduce it to my reading club but it would be great to share views here first. The first chapter is on line but I cant post the link as im new! Has anyone else read it?
Author is G.W Dahlquist.

Marianne
 
Are there any free reading samples for this? I wouldn't pick a book up if I wasn't allowed to browse a bit. I would also be very wary of instalments unless the first instalment like Dickens' work was boffo enough to warrant continuing.
 
yes the first chapter is available, but I cant post the link. I came across it on a blog called suspension Bridge but if you go to the Penguin Books blog there is information there as well.
Maybe if I pm the admin they could allow the link?
 
Hi Brian,
yep sunny West Midlands!

That link wasn't where I got the first chapter from. Ive downloaded the full first chapter , I was going to print it off but its 66 pages so I'm waiting until im at work next!

the download is thesuspensionbridge dot blogspot dot com just look for an article about the book and it gives you details.
 
Hi Marianne,
Welcome to chronicles.
I have read the book. Hmm I wouldnt think it falls under the gothic category, more like a Victorian suspence novel with a wee bit of sci-fi added to the mix. How did you want to go about discussing it? Characters, Chapter by chapter, theme. I have never been a part of a book club so Ill have to follow your lead.
 
I was hoping for lead from you guys! My book club is just a group of mums!

Anyway I have the first chapter so I guess we could start on the question of Gothic vs Victorian Suspence noval whilst I read it. The whole book is not out in the UK until Jan, but the installments start first week in October
 
Haven't yet read any of the novel, I must admit, but a question is already apparent from what's been addressed here: the idea of Gothic vs. "Victorian suspense"... which was actually an offshoot of the Gothic novel, once it became moribund around 1820 (Melmoth notwithstanding). So (for those who have read parts of the novel, at least) I'm curious: are we talking the sort of thing that Le Fanu, Collins, and Bulwer did? Or are we closer to the sort of thing that Ann Radcliffe did with her novels, which did not actually have (save for the last, published posthumously) supernatural events, but hinted at such, and used the atmosphere of such, before explaining them away?
 
I've downloaded the PDF sample, JD -- and once I've read it, I'll let you know whether it's in the vein of Collins, LeFanu, Bulwer, etc. (I've never been able to get very far into Radcliffe.)

I think the term "Gothic" has been expanded, lately, to include all Victorian supernatural and/or suspense (at least so long as the latter has the proper brooding atmosphere) and even on into writers as recent as Algernon Blackwood. One could argue for the original, narrower definition, of course, but passing that by and getting straight to discussions of plot, characters, atmosphere etc. sounds much more amusing to me.

And fortunately, none of us have to write dissertations (or scholarly monographs) on the subject, so I think we can afford to be a little loose in our terms.
 
Well the term gothic has also been used to describe fiction concerning a remote isolated setting. From that point of view one could even have a contemporary gothic story.
 
Quite correct, Teresa... I was just curious as to whether this fit into that "aftermath" period, or whether it was more in the vein of the modern gothic (lower-case "g"), which has been expanded to encompass such diverse writers as Radcliffe, Flannery O'Connor, Eudora Welty, and even some of Stephen Crane ("The Monster", for example) -- a legitimate expansion, I think, as they deal with a lot of the same concerns and have some of the atmosphere of the original Gothics, but often lack the pseudo- or even legitimately supernatural elements of the earlier writers. Just wondering which camp this one falls into.....
 
Someone help me on Le Fanu? The author seems familiar and I have the impression he/she wrote either a short story or a novella about a female vampire in or around the period that Dracula was written. Im sure I read this in some horror omnibus about 20 years ago.
 
Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu was an Irish writer who wrote many excellent ghost stories (and even the odd Gothic novel), but he is probably best known for Carmilla, which is undoubtedly the story you mean.

Last night I printed up the first 18 pages of Glass Books, but I didn't get a chance to read them. I printed up the rest of the sample tonight, and I'm just about to go to bed and read it.
 
Teresa Edgerton said:
Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu was an Irish writer who wrote many excellent ghost stories (and even the odd Gothic novel), but he is probably best known for Carmilla, which is undoubtedly the story you mean.
Yes! thats it. Thanks Theresa.
Also big thanks to JD for the link. Imgoing to reread this. I barely remember the story.
 
I didn't get as far into the excerpt as I hoped, last night, but here are my first impressions:

So far, JD, it does not seem to be Victorian Gothic in even the broadest, most liberal sense of the term. The style of narrative suggests a Comedy of Manners. (But for that to work the author needs to know the milieu he/she is satirizing, inside and out, and so far it looks like he doesn't. If he means to combine CoM with 19th century Gothic, I would suggest a course of Thomas Love Peacock.)

The first pages are full of trivialites about Miss Temple's life and her previous relationship with the man who has just jilted her. Then comes a sequence on a strangely empty train, where she discovers that the (very few) passengers are all wearing masks. This could be seriously disquieting, but the way it is handled, it isn't. It just comes across as odd. And any uneasiness the reader might feel (recognizing, as Miss Temple does not, that this can't be right) is diluted by a lengthy scene of a sedate ride in a coach, during which the occupants exchange vacuous pleasantries, until Miss Temple -- inexcusably, one can't help thinking, considering the very slight provocation -- pokes one of the other women in the eyes.

Perhaps things will start to feel creepier when they reach their destination. In the meantime, I can't help thinking how Le Fanu, or Stoker, or Collins, or Gaskell would have handled the train ride, investing the whole thing with a menacing atmosphere. And I've now realized why so many authors of Victorian ghost stories and novels of Gothic suspense chose protagonists who were high-strung artistic types, or students or businessmen just recovering from nervous breakdowns due to too much studying or overwork -- such characters are keenly sensitive to mood and atmosphere, and the reader is able to experience every thrill of terror along with them. Miss Temple, on the other hand, is self-centered and remarkably oblivious. It may be, of course, that future events will wake her up.

All this is in answer to your question, JD, about about what sort of Victorian Gothic this book is supposed to be. Anyone who doesn't have the same love for 19th century fiction that you and I share is probably skimming this message by now, and wondering who are these writers, Le Fanu, Gaskell, and so forth and why should I care? So I'll move on to something more likely to interest them:

Modern readers, accustomed to the style of contemporary writers, will probably think the narrative of The Glass Books of the Dream Eaters is far too wordy, and the pace very slow.

But this, too, might improve as the story goes on. The book must have something special about it, to attract so much attention. I'm willing to read the whole sample before I decide whether it's worth my while to pick up the actual book.
 
Teresa Edgerton said:
...I would suggest a course of Thomas Love Peacock.)

Yes! For anyone trying that balancing act, Peacock would be a marvelous choice; speaking of which, I'd come across mention of someone trying to revive his work recently, but haven't been able to find anything else about it. I'd think, with the revived interest in Austin, not to mention Radcliffe, Lewis, and the entire Gothic crowd (at least, the more well-known ones) his wry take on things would find quite an audience.

And I've now realized why so many authors of Victorian ghost stories and novels of Gothic suspense chose protagonists who were high-strung artistic types, or students or businessmen just recovering from nervous breakdowns due to too much studying or overwork -- such characters are keenly sensitive to mood and atmosphere, and the reader is able to experience every thrill of terror along with them.

Precisely (and one of the reasons I enjoy such things so well, is because of the scope that can give to one's own imagination, expanding possibilities. It seems to me that anyone attempting to imitate that period's literature should keep this very much in mind -- Dickens used this even in his "The Signalman" ... though the narrator noticed none of the ghostly phenomena, the signalman himself was acutely aware of shadowy intimations ... which then became passed on to the narrator at the end. It's very important to create a genuine sensation of that small rupture in the veil between our world and the great unknown....

All this is in answer to your question, JD, about about what sort of Victorian Gothic this book is supposed to be.

Thank you very much, Teresa, for taking the time and effort to give such an informative reply. It's is most certainly appreciated. And with that information -- considering all the other things I've got to read for my own research on the weird tale, I think I'll give this one a pass until I hear something more compelling about it.... Thank you again!
 
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