wheres she going to land?

timekiller

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i was just thinking (yea im as supprised as you) and i was wondering where danny/dany is goint to land in westroes (after dragonstone). Like when she is goint to the lord would know of her and would probably be prepared or as prepared as you can be against dragons and unsullied. I thought first beyond the wall or in the north someplace but then if danny/dany is goin to kill the others etc she cant really march south she'd be marching the wrong way even though she'd have the advantage of the neck. I dont think she'd go for kings landing straight away.
So where?

my best guess is Dorne saying their most likly goin to support her.

The Eyre dragons should conquor it and then she'd have a really good base though i doubt it

Castelary rock to get the gold thought again doubtful
 
I believe that she will either land at the wall or Kingslandding. It will probably depend on how bad the situation is at the wall; if things are vary desperet she will sckip Kingslandding and go strate there. But, I think that if she can she will land at Kingslandding because of something that some one said about how the person who sits the iron throne is the true King or Queen, and all others are just pretenders.
 
If she lands (with Vary's advice) (conspicuous absence) she will land up river of Kings landing


Dany has no idea whats going on in Westeros and jon and stannis have the wall dealt with (assumedly)

just my humble opinion

her cares are the throne purely, not the smallfolk
 
I think she would reconquer Dragonstone as it is her family's ancestral seat and the closest thing to home. Nice historical symmetry too, no?
 
O, I deffinetly think that she will go to Dragonstone first, and who knows by the time that she lands she might be the only clament to the throne. The others don't seem to be liveing that long. I just hope that she is responsible enough to not use her dragons more than she hast to. By the time that she arrives the last things that the seven kingdums will need is more blood and fire.
 
Landing in Dorne is a good idea as it combines her troops with the Dornish and allows her to march on King's Landing, rolling up the Reach (the biggest threat to her invasion, as it has the most manpower and survived the war intact) and the Stormlands as she goes. However, an attack by Dornish troops northwards, then Dany's troops landing behind the Tyrells and Storm folk when they advance to meet the Dornish could be a good tactic as well. Dragonstone is a good base for mounting an assault on King's Landing, but it is somewhat worthless otherwise. Dany would be better making a direct attack on the mainland rather than spending valuable time, lives and the element of surprise)in taking Dragonstone.
 
Werthead said:
rather than spending valuable time, lives and the element of surprise)in taking Dragonstone.

well they woul have most likly have heard of her if shes that close
 
they don't have satellite imagery. If she killed all ravens coming to and fro(easy enough with some archers) and refused to allow boats to leave(ala Stannis) then they wouldn't know of her until she acted.
 
yea but they would hear from the free citys when she marches up to them looking for boats shes not gona be able to stop all the boats she'd have to take over a load of citys at once to stop word of a girl with three dragons looking to take the iron throne and even then they'd prob still hear about it
 
Who cares? she has dragons. Let them hear about it. If they don't discount it immediately as rumor then she can still roast them all. Field of Fire, anyone?
 
Euron his horn seems worthless to me, i mean the guy who blows it dies,a dead men cannot command dragons, it is as simple as that
 
Ah werthead and kiwibird,

As euron is going to the free cities with the horn and the horn pretty much burns out the lungs of whomever blows it... What if the person who blows it is impervious to heat?

And also happens to already be in possesion of 3 dragons?

just a thought
 
Actually, Euron isn't going anywhere. He's too busy being a thorn in the Tyrell's side. He sent his brother Victorion to bring Dany and her dragons back. But, they never said whether he brought the horn. I'm sure he did but Victorion has different ideas then his dear sweet brother.

Dany will first travel to old Valyria to learn to control her dragons (which she doesn't seem to be very successful at lately). Then, with the help of Quentyn, will go top Dorne. Qhy would she want some desolate island like Dragonstone at this point? She will not make the same mistake Stannis did and try to take King's Landing from the sea. Especially with Tyrion to advise her.
 
Weasel Soup said:
Ah werthead and kiwibird,

As euron is going to the free cities with the horn and the horn pretty much burns out the lungs of whomever blows it... What if the person who blows it is impervious to heat?

And also happens to already be in possesion of 3 dragons?

just a thought
Hi Weasel and all,
I agree Dany has the best chance of wielding the horn, but I am sceptical of the horn in general - I'm placing a bet it will prove to be a red herring.

Why? Because IF the horn can be blown safely and IF it attracts dragons, HOW exactly does it 'control' them? It would have to be some sort of warg mind meld thing, because as far as we've seen the dragons don't speak Human. Sure, Dany has trained them with Dracarys - one word. For one action. She didn't train them for 'stop, go, come, stay, drop, fly, land, etc' And that was a mistake potentially, because now they are too big for Dany to use the threat of physical force if they disobey and can do as they please. (as we saw in the advance chapter for ADWD)
So, unless the horn is actually the equivalent of a psychic whip (to cow the dragons) or a 'mind meld' device, it may attract dragons but there's nothing to stop them devouring the horn blower or just flying off again.
I am veeerrryy curious to see the next Victarion chapter - I think trying to carry Dany off against her will could be the worst mistake of his life.
 
No matter how little discipline she has her dragons still love her. They have an emotional attachment(of some sort), she is their mother after all. Maybe it's like impressions on young animals. She was there when they were hatched and fed them. They're hers.
 
the smiling weirwood said:
No matter how little discipline she has her dragons still love her. They have an emotional attachment(of some sort), she is their mother after all. Maybe it's like impressions on young animals. She was there when they were hatched and fed them. They're hers.
I do agree on that point, which is why I don't see them defecting either, as one theory posited - but they're animals. They cannot speak her language, and no matter how much they love her, they're not going to.

I'll use an example that will probably be roundly condemned, but here goes:

When a dog (or any animal, imo) is trained, it is carefully taught to respond with an action to a one word (usually) command. The dog doesn't speak english (in my case), but it memorises the sound of the word or the action and associates an expected response - from itself and from me. That is, if I train my dog to sit down when I blow a whistle, she knows I will reward her for the action and punish her if she does not. She may not wish to sit down at that time and wait, but she will because she's learnt that I'm dominant over her. She loves me but she can't understand that if I let her go and do whatever she wants, its not in her best interests. So she obeys me because I impose my will with a variety of rewards and penalties.

I believe the dragons are the same - they don't understand why (for example) its wrong to eat children - they look the same as any other meat. So Dany has to enforce that and reign in her draons natural desires to devour certain kinds of food. The dragons will probably always want to eat people, but hopefully they won't because their training will prevent them. And it is the same with the rest of their desires - to go where they want, when they want, flame if they feel like it and so forth. Love alone for their mother isn't going to see them go into battle with a rider and risk death to follow her commands.

Which brings me to my second point - its easiest to train dogs when they are young, before they have set behaviour patterns of "I'll do whatever the hell I please" and because puppies are usually still smaller and weaker than humans. You convince them of humans (or atleast one human's) superior strength and leadership when they are young, and they will mostly continue to obey even when they are big and strong enough to defeat us in a physical battle. My dog could overpower and kill me - but she won't, because I've convinced her of my physical (and mental) dominance. She loves me, but it's in her instincts to dominate where she can. And I believe thats the case with most animals. So why not dragons? We've already seen them fight for dominance between each other.

However, it seems Dany's dragons have no fear of her now - again, referencing the Dany chapter in ADWD, they seem to have worked out she can't physically punish them and they are strong enough to seek out their own food, so what hold does she really have? She can clap them in irons, but can she prevent them flying away when they are released? As weirwood says, they love her - but animals outgrow their parents. There has to be something more to compel their obedience, IMO.
 
actually Dany being impervous to fire was a 1-Time deal, so that wont help her much with the horn, then again maybe it is more a bloodband thing and then it might indeed be helpful to her
 

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