Lost: So what's your theory?

[tangaloomababe]

My theory. This show has gone on far to long.. It should have finished about episode 1, ok thats a little harsh, maybe one series would have been enough. Didn't anyone tell them you can have to much of a good thing, or in this case, just to much!!!!!

 

[TK-421]

I always wondered about people who complain about how the show has gone on too long and they should of quit some time ago...I guess it's not that bad to still be watching (and spending time commenting on some forum about this horrible show )

Personnally, I think it's only gotten better. And with the latest season finale, a flashforward instead of a flashback, brilliant!

 

[Trey Greyjoy]

Delurking for a moment......

The show is definately one entire season behind where it should have been. Although the final epis of season 3 were compelling, it only pointed out in contrast just how bad season 2 really was.
The writers have basically admitted they were attempting to drag the show out as long as possible and now are getting being reined in by the moneymen behind the scenes. (who'd have though we'd ever side with the suits behind the scenes??!!)

Lost is a coin toss to me as to whether or not Ill tune in next year. Too bad too, it started out as the best thing on broadcast TV, then it took a serious JJ Abrahms turn south...

 

[Marrick650]

I'd have to agree with trey, I don't know if I'll even bother to watch the next series. Even with all the 'secrets' revealed at the end of the last series, I just don't know if I can care enough about what is going on to watch another series of the show.

What has probably hurt Lost most of all is Heroes, another show which has ongoing mysteries, but wheras Lost seems content to just string the audience along, Heroes has shown that you can explain what is going on and add new stories.

It just seems to be a wasted oppertunity that Lost seems unable to give the audience any real answers

 

[paranoid marvin]

Maybe they're all hooked up to a computer Matrix-style , and one day they'll relaise? After all the events which occur in the programme are generally too far fetched or so improbable as to be almost impossible

either way , the way to disappoint the least number of people , or to ensure they don't end on an anticlimax , is to never reveal the whole truth . I believe that the producers will have us still guessing even after the final epsiode has finished

 

[Tilion]

Personnally, I think it's only gotten better.

I couldn't agree more! Each of the three seasons has had its share of great moments and superb writing, and I can hardly wait for season 4 to arrive. The only gripe I have is I wish there were 2 more seasons with circa 24 episodes each, rather than 3 seasons with 16 each.

 

[Sephiroth]

I'm not so sure, I think 16 episodes per series will give it a better pace.

I'm glad they've decided not to let it go on forever, though...

 

[Dave]

Re: Lost: So what's your theories? SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3

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I just got completely Lost this week and watched the box-set of Series 3. I've been waiting for ages for this, since I lost Sky TV from Virgin Cable. Anyway, I was blown away. I can't see why people are knocking it in this thread. IMHO 'Lost' and 'Firefly' were the only two shows worth watching in the last five years.

Anyway, my theory from Day One has always been that they were on some higher plane of Hell - Purgatory, Limbo, whatever you wish. Now I'm less sure, (even though they are clearly all already dead) but there is certainly some religious element to the final explanation.

The Others are not the DHARMA scientists. The Others, apart from Ben (who is a Psychopath) and maybe a few more, are the Hostiles that DHARMA were afraid of. The Hostiles killed all the DHARMA scientists. I guess the Hostiles got to the Island in the same way as everyone else did - shipwrecks, helicopter and plane crashes - the Slave Brig is centuries old remember.

My theory is that someone from Hanso discovered a way to reach the Island (and more importantly to get off again), discovered all the mysterious wonders, and the ability to heal wounds, and decided to experiment in order to bring these discoveries to the outside world. I think their initial ideas were very idealistic and altruistic, but once they got into a conflict with the hostiles, those ideals got downgraded.

My only problem would be: How did the DHARMA Initiative manage to build the stations?

Now about Jacob: Is Jacob the devil? Is Jacob the Island? Is he just another Other?

That I don't know. I do know that Ben is a fraud, he has never spoken to Jacob. John Locke has it all figured out and Jacob needs John to help him remove all the people who should not be there.

Penny and the Freighter: I haven't figured that out yet either. The freighter is not Penny's ship. Ben told them not to trust Naomi. Unfortunately, every single thing that Ben has said so far has been proved to be a lie, so why not that too. But John knifed her, so he must have agreed with Ben for once.

What I really didn't understand was the flash-forwards. That has just confused me even more. They only explanation would be that they are all re-living various possible timelines (just like Desmond) which may or may not come true. However, the woman in the Jewelers told Desmond that time was fixed and he couldn't change it - and Charlie did die in the end - so there cannot be alternative timelines.

I haven't worked many things out yet. How do people die on the Island if they are already dead? Where do they go when they die? Why can't John or Mikiel (cyclops) seem to die?

At least Season 3 stopped messing around and gave some answers. It just produced a lot of new questions too.

 

[TK-421]

They cannot die if they are already dead, therefore they cannot be dead already. Interesting theories but I do not for a second believe they are already dead. The flashforward with Jack and Kate at the end of the last season proves this. They eventually leave the island and come back to "reality".

 

[Teresa Edgerton]

The flash-forward pretty much blew all of my theories to smithereens.

If we are even to believe it. If it's true, we have confirmation that the two characters involved survive to return home. Could the writers and producers really have intended to give that much away?

 

[TK-421]

Maybe, maybe not. Could be that this is in the future and the future can always change. The Producers have said that there will be more flashforwards in the upcoming seasons.

I too was completely blown away. I did not believe what I was seeing.

 

[Steve Jordan]

Well, it kinda sucks that we now know Kate and Jack survive, but it still leaves a lot of questions about the island.

All we know for sure is, Jack and Kate seriously regret the things they did while on the island, Kate is trying to get over it, and Jack may never recover.

Many leaders go through recriminations over past decisions, especially when those decisions resulted in death and hardship for many others, and even when their decision was ultimately the right thing to do. It's even worse, if the decision turns out to be wrong, because they were mistaken about the situation.

This is clearly what Jack is going through... he's the leader that now regrets setting some horror loose on his world, in the name of right or survival, in his past.

I still see socio-political allegory in this scenario... Jack represents U.S. leadership, and who knows what allegorical action he might have unleashed that tortures him so... A-bombing Japan... installing dictators to assure his group's safety and prosperity (and being betrayed later)... allowing his people to suck the island dry of its natural resources... or allowing his people to become too selfish, and ruin themselves?

 

[Dave]

Well, it kinda sucks that we now know Kate and Jack survive, but it still leaves a lot of questions about the island.

We also know one other person survives too. Jack asked about someone (him) Kate left at home to meet him. My guess would have to be James (Sawyer).

I agree with the 'sucking' part. And apparently season 4 will have more flash-forwards.

 

[Dave]

They cannot die if they are already dead, therefore they cannot be dead already. Interesting theories but I do not for a second believe they are already dead. The flashforward with Jack and Kate at the end of the last season proves this. They eventually leave the island and come back to "reality".

Maybe, but Naomi said that Oceanic Flight 815 had been found at the bottom of the sea and all the dead bodies accounted for. Just even more lies I guess??

 

[Steve Jordan]

Maybe, but Naomi said that Oceanic Flight 815 had been found at the bottom of the sea and all the dead bodies accounted for. Just even more lies I guess??

If Naomi wasn't actually there, she could just be responding to what she's been told... which could be more misinformation.

Lies and misinformation have proven to be the cornerstones of this show (and hidden resources and agendas seem to be its foundation).

Bottom line: They're not dead. They are merely the subjects (and victims) of a massive misinformation campaign, leading outsiders to believe the Survivors don't exist, or are untrustworthy, or "Great Satans," whatever.

 

[TK-421]

Good point Dave. Actually I remember her telling Charlie that they made a big deal about his death because he was a rock star.

 

[Dave]

Good point Dave. Actually I remember her telling Charlie that they made a big deal about his death because he was a rock star.

I think she said it was on the News. So, she could not be mis-informed. If it's not true then she was lying and knew she was lying. I expect that this will be cleared up quite soon when her comrades from the freighter arrive to "rescue" the survivors. It is obvious that they will not be what they seem, because nothing in Lost ever is!

 

[Teresa Edgerton]

The news story could have been rigged, though. Someone or something was powerful enough to bring all of these people from all over the world with all of these secret connections together on the same flight. Fooling the media into running a false story seems pretty minor by comparison.

Really, the whole plot (to bring all these individuals together) seems to have been set in motion by someone or some group of someones with such god-like powers, it's hard to see how the solution to the puzzle could not be a supernatural one, unless the whole thing is someone's hallucination or a shared delusion.

 

[Steve Jordan]

Really, the whole plot (to bring all these individuals together) seems to have been set in motion by someone or some group of someones with such god-like powers, it's hard to see how the solution to the puzzle could not be a supernatural one, unless the whole thing is someone's hallucination or a shared delusion.

Did you grow up watching Mission: Impossible? I did. And frankly, by television-plot standards, I can easily see all of this being pre-arranged by someone, specifically targeting some people, and just catching the others in the backwash. Secret islands... faked deaths... arranged coincidences... all part and parcel of TV conspiracy concepts.

Another show I keep thinking of is The Prisoner, which was presented as a secret agent story but turned out to be essentially an allegory for the individual's struggle with a depersonalized society. These days I see Lost as an allegory, though it goes out of its way to not appear like one.

 

[Steve Jordan]

I think she said it was on the News. So, she could not be mis-informed.

So, you believe everything you hear on the news? Ask Dan Rather what he thinks about that.