(Probably Partly Found) Need help finding titles/authors of 2 classic sci fi stories

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#1: A minor inventor in the 18th (17th?) century who loves to hunt with his hawk is visited by his future self who sets him on the right path to being the greatest inventor of all time. This future self in turn visits his "old" self who is out hunting with his hawk and convinces him to not spend time in certain areas so he can be an even better inventor. This future self, who has become the greatest inventor of all history visits his "old" self, but is unable to convince his old self to stop what he is doing (hunting with his hawk) and get back to inventing. So the story ends I think with the character being a footnote in history (inventor of a better flintlock mechanism?).

#2: A well-meaning man invents robots who keep human's safe from all harm. But it spiral's out of control and the robots remove all joy from human existance as they insist on keeping human's from doing ANYTHING that is even remotely fun or interesting. Early in the story another character is able to breach an incredible array of defenses to reach the first man (maybe dies in the process?) in order to convince him to stop these robots. The man then tries to stop the robots, but it is too late. The robots have taken away his ability to control them and he too is doomed to live in the Nanny state they have created.

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#2: A well-meaning man invents robots who keep human's safe from all harm. But it spiral's out of control and the robots remove all joy from human existance as they insist on keeping human's from doing ANYTHING that is even remotely fun or interesting. Early in the story another character is able to breach an incredible array of defenses to reach the first man (maybe dies in the process?) in order to convince him to stop these robots. The man then tries to stop the robots, but it is too late. The robots have taken away his ability to control them and he too is doomed to live in the Nanny state they have created.

This sounds an awful lot like Jack Williamson's The Humanoids (1949), with the classic novella "With Folded Hands", except that a portion of the description above doesn't quite fit; but the overall description certainly sounds like Williamson's story.

And: hello and welcome to the Chronicles.
 
I agree with j.d.worthington -- definitely sounds like Williamson's The Humanoids. Regarded as something of a classic in its day. Quite a coincidence this query appearing now, with the author having passed away just last month, at the venerable age of 98.
 

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