The Most Underrated film of all Time?

[The Wanderer]

Ok I'll post 1, you may like to post a list or whatever

Ok here goes

Heaven's Gate - Micheal Cimino - 1980

It's not a perfect film perhaps, that there are images as timeless as any ever filmed, I think the set for Casper, Wyoming is the Western Set I've ever seen and it's animated in a way that doesn't seem set up like in most films.

Ok the Harvard Graduation is a phenomenal sequence, everything composed in perfect symmetry, shot through with Romanticism and faded memories of the past

Vilmos Zsigmond's (Legend) Cinematography is Immaculate, the Interiors, textures of Cotton, Leather, Wood, Golden Light, Dust, Grain etc is captured like few other films

 

[The Ace]

My nomination would be 'Dark Star,' if they got rid of that lousy counry and western sound track.

 

[j d worthington]

My nomination would be 'Dark Star,' if they got rid of that lousy counry and western sound track.

Ah, Ace, that's one of the things that makes the film... it's absolutely in line with the provincial nonsense of the ship's crew.

"Benson, Arizona, blew warm wind through your hair / My body flies the galaxy, my heart longs to be there. / Benson, Arizona, the same stars in the sky / But they seemed so much kinder when we watched them, you and I."

 

[Allegra]

I can't remember which film I've seen was underrated, but I've seen lots of overrated ones.

 

[HardScienceFan]

SF/F/Horror movie,or otherwise?

 

[The Wanderer]

SF/F/Horror movie,or otherwise?

I meant any kind of movie, but S/F/Horror is you want

 

[The Wanderer]

I can't remember which film I've seen was underrated, but I've seen lots of overrated ones.

Sounds like you've seen all of Sam Mendes Movies

 

[HardScienceFan]

Sounds like you've seen all of Sam Mendes Movies

Hi Wanderer
Later on Flemish television is showing Lynch' s 'Lost Highway'
Your recommendation
Slightly off thread,but,
value Ur opinion
Is that one underrated,BTW?
OK underrated,here goes:
Simple Plan (Raimi)
Dark city
Adaptation
EUROPEAN MOVIES:
anything by tomTykwer(e;g;.Lola rennt) is probably underrated in America,at least,seeing as that his work needs English subtitles
La Haine ("HATE")is mentioned somewhere,Vincent Cassel is in that one),brilliant,also needs subtitles
Le Pact des Loups,ditto
Last one is visually brilliant,archetypically French(and not in the TRuffaut way!),contains brilliant fight scenes,and comes with my heavy recommendaton,if that counts for something.It's a grabbag,but darnit ,it WORKS!!!!

 

[williamjm]

Le Pact des Loups,ditto
Last one is visually brilliant,archetypically French(and not in the TRuffaut way!),contains brilliant fight scenes,and comes with my heavy recommendaton,if that counts for something.It's a grabbag,but darnit ,it WORKS!!!!

Is that "Brotherhood of the Wolf"? It's certainly the best French historical epic/martial arts/action/horror/monster movie I've seen

Seriously, it is a very enjoyable film.

 

[HardScienceFan]

Is that "Brotherhood of the Wolf"? It's certainly the best French historical epic/martial arts/action/horror/monster movie I've seen

Yes,my friend,it is.
Yes,the French can make enjoyable movies,perhaps even better than Hollywood,but hey,that's just my taste.Now will you believe me when I say that some of the better movies will be the ones U see with subtitles?

 

[tangaloomababe]

I went to see Brotherhood of the Wolf at the cinema when it was released, I remember having to walk past a couple of dark alleyways in the dark, very aphrensively. An excellent film, beautifully filmed but very scarey. I agree with "Hard Science Fan" Its one of those movies that you have to watch with subtitles.
Another very good film, again french and beautifully filmed is A Very Long Engagement.

 

[The Wanderer]

Yes,my friend,it is.
Yes,the French can make enjoyable movies,perhaps even better than Hollywood,but hey,that's just my taste.Now will you believe me when I say that some of the better movies will be the ones U see with subtitles?

The French have some of the Grestest Directors in the history of cinema


Francois Truffaut, Jean-Luc Godard, Alain Resnais, Louis Malle, Robert Bresson, Jean-Pierre Melville, Jean Renoir, Jean Cocteau ,Jacques Rivette, Rene Clair, Henri-Georges Clouzot , Marcel Carné, Éric Rohmer, Marcel Ophüls, Georges Méliès and
The Lumière brothers, Auguste Marie Louis Nicholas: the original founders of film

and that's before you get to modern film-makers Luc Besson, Jean Jacqcues Beneix, Jean-Pierre Jeanau, Patrice Leconte, Bertrand Blier etc

I almost forgot alot of the greatest filmmakers of other countries have made some of greatest films in France, perhaps because of their culture for it - The Passion of Joan of Arc - Carl Dreyer (Denmark) 1928, Luis Bunuel made a few films there too, Max Ophuls

Only America can Claim a better set of filmmakers and in my own opinion I think the French have had more diverse quality

 

[The Wanderer]

Hi Wanderer
Later on Flemish television is showing Lynch' s 'Lost Highway'
Your recommendation
Slightly off thread,but,
value Ur opinion
Is that one underrated,BTW?

I saw this in London in September 1997, haven't seen it since, though I still remember parts of it like Vivid dreams, as far as nightmares and dreamscapes go I prefer it 'Mullholland Drive' and 'Wild at Heart', though I think it's inferior to 'Blue Velvet' and 'The Elephant Man'

I think it should be talked about more, which is part of my definition of Underrated, yes

 

[Pyan]

I was going to suggest Waterworld (1995) but wonder if I mean underestimated rather than underrated?

 

[williamjm]

Yes,my friend,it is.
Yes,the French can make enjoyable movies,perhaps even better than Hollywood,but hey,that's just my taste.Now will you believe me when I say that some of the better movies will be the ones U see with subtitles?

I can certainly believe that - films like "The City of Lost Children" or "Pan's Labyrinth" are much better than the vast majority of SF/F films made in English.

 

[The Wanderer]

I can certainly believe that - films like "The City of Lost Children" or "Pan's Labyrinth" are much better than the vast majority of SF/F films made in English.

They are made with an eccentric eye, remember eccentriticy in the English speaking circuit costs ticket sales, it's got to be what people are already accustommed to, according to the funders and studio bosses

(mind you there was Ken Russell)

that's why you'll never have an Almodovar in English speaking Cinema

Remember in France directors are considered to make works of Art, in the US a money making product, if an American director makes a brilliant work it's usually down to the brilliance of the director transcending the material

look at 'The Godfather' 1972, Coppola took a fairly orinary, rather trashy book by Mario Puzo and made a masterpiece out of the material

 

[The Wanderer]

"Pan's Labyrinth".

It's by the Mexican Director Guillemo Del Toro, though I think he works all over the place

Credits include

Hellboy (2004)
Blade II (2002)
The Devil's Backbone (2001) (USA)
Mimic (1997)
Cronos (1993)

Mimic, Blade 2 and Hellboy were made in USA

 

[The Wanderer]

much better than the vast majority of SF/F films made in English

too true, even basic science Fiction/Horror genre picures that are
like Alien are not well done

Alien (1979) is a model and yet very similar films are made but fail to live up to that model

in another context it's the same with Psycho - Alfred Hitchcock - 1960, Dressed to Kill - Brian De Palma - 1980, Halloween - John Carpenter - 1978

all successful films in there own right, essentially elements of these films are remade and incorportated into other movies, inferior genre movies of course

as for Purer Science Fiction, I feel it hasn't been consistently entertaining in American Cinema since the period from 1968-1985, which was the time generally when the best science Fiction films were made in the English Language

 

[that old guy]

Ok here goes

Heaven's Gate - Micheal Cimino - 1980

Doesn't this make it onto some of the worst of all time lists? I remember it being absolutely savaged by critics when it came out. What's next? Ishtar and Howard the Duck?

 

[The Wanderer]

Doesn't this make it onto some of the worst of all time lists? I remember it being absolutely savaged by critics when it came out. What's next? Ishtar and Howard the Duck?

No, Mate, Critics were divided

http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/heavens_gate/

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