The Revived Tolkien Trivia

[hopewrites]

Lol ok I'm glad I'm nor the only one who thought of that answer. *secret giggle*

 

[Corbier]

Anyway...

Then even as he [Bard] was speaking, the thought came into his heart of the fabled treasure of the Mountain lying without guard or owner, and he fell suddenly silent. He thought of the Master's words, and of Dale rebuilt, and filled with golden bells, if he could but find the men.

The Hobbit, Ch. 14: Fire and Water.

 

[Pyan]

You got it - and it's your go...

 

[Corbier]

Thanks, Pyan Bell-giver!

What character from The Lord of the Rings has a soup named after him or her?

 

[Pyan]

Oh, I do like the way your mind works!

I've a feeling that this may be Gram, King of the Mark from 2668 - 2741 (Third Age), according to RotK, Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers.

Yellow Gram Soup

 

[Grimward]

Hmm, I had Tom Bombadil, for the Thai "Tom Yum" soup, but I like your answer better, your greenness (that, and I'd never heard of Yellow Gram soup!). Figured, despite the abundance of stones in the story, the "him or her" ruled out stone soup.

 

[Pyan]

Arghh! There's also Amaranth Soup...

Amaranth Soups

Amaranth Brandybuck was Merry's great-aunt, according to the Brandybuck of Buckland family tree in RotK, Appendix C, Family Trees

You can make soup out of another female hobbit's name: Marigold Gamgee was Sam's youngest sister...

 

[farntfar]

There are several hobbits with names that have soups with the same name, but its all just because there were lots of hobbit names that were plants.(like Daisy, Lily etc)
Angelica (Took or Baggins)
Belladona (Took)
Mungo (Baggins)
etc.

Birds nest soup, from Radagast's hat in the film.

but I can't see any "named after" soups.(he says as he enjoys his second bowl of witch king of Angmar consommée)

 

[Corbier]

Hmmm... I've landed myself in a pickle as there's so many great answers already. I think I need to rephrase the question somewhat. I was looking for a soup mentioned by Tolkien that also happens to be one of his characters... Perhaps I'm looking for too obscure a quotation.

 

[Pyan]

Perhaps I'm looking for too obscure a quotation.

Nonsense! No such thing. But the more obscure the quote, the more accurate you've got to be with the question's terms of reference...

 

[Grimward]

I agree.

And then there's the argument that part of the fun of the challenge guiding our (or at least, my!) feeble attempts ever so incrementally towards accuracy. Keep going!

 

[Corbier]

Then look for a hilarious soup Tolkien himself once ate...

 

[Pyan]

Ahh - then in that case it's the Maggot Soup that JRRT was offered at a "Hobbit Dinner" given for him by the Dutch booksellers Voorhoeve en Deitrich in March 1958. The confusion arose because the hobbits were given "a mighty dish of mushrooms and bacon" by Farmer Maggot...

...he (the firm's representative) was still a little upset about the hilarity caused by "maggot-soup" on the menu. It was, of course, mushroom soup; but he said he would not have chosen the name if he had known "all the names of the English vermins".

Letters, No 206, From a letter to Rayner Unwin

There was beer in plenty, and a mighty dish of mushrooms and bacon, besides much other solid farmhouse fare.

FotR, Book 1, Ch.4, A Short Cut to Mushrooms

 

[hopewrites]

Well there's an anecdote and no mistake. *suppressed giggle*

 

[Corbier]

Well done, Mr. Pyan! A bell-covered bowl of maggot soup to you!

 

[Pyan]

Err...thanks?...

Ok, then. Can you connect Heliador to the prophecy fulfilled by the grandchild of Steelsheen?

 

[Corbier]

I have never heard of "Heliador" Colour me intrigued!

 

[Pyan]

 

[farntfar]

The first part is easy enough.
Morwen Steelsheen was the wife of Thengel and therefore the grandma of Eomer and Eowyn.

The prophesy was that the witch king of Angmar would not be killed by any man, and he was of course killed by Eowyn.
The prophesy was deliveredby Glorfindel. (Appendix 1)
In the chapter “Flight to the Ford” Aragorn and the hobbits eventually meet Glorfindel, just before they get to the ford, where Glorfindel says that he had been searching for them and had left a token on the bridge of the Mitheithel.

Some pages earlier, when the company came to the Last Bridge, Aragorn had found a pale green beryl, or elfstone on the bridge and had taken it as a sign that they could pass.
So the link is Glorfindel, because:…

(Here’s where my research gets a bit dodgy. )
One variety of beryl which is pale green (as opposed to emerald which is rather brighter) is called Heliodor. (note the O in helio)


Well that’s as close as I’m gonna get. I can't find any actual references to the word Heliador or Heliodor, But I haven't got all the books.
Someone else can finish it off.

Incidentally, I always got confused about the elfstone at the bridge and the elfstone for which Elessar was named, which quite clearly was a long time before. So if anyone wants to clear that up for me I'll be very grateful.

 

[Pyan]

Well that’s as close as I’m gonna get. I can't find any actual references to the word Heliador or Heliodor, But I haven't got all the books.
Someone else can finish it off.

No need, farntfar - you've got it.

And my bad - I spelled Heliodor incorrectly. My apologies to all, but extra kudos for working out the solution from incorrect data.

A pale sea-green bell to farntfar, and the privilege of setting the next question...