The Revived Tolkien Trivia

I don't want to shell out much more time on this one...
 
I've looked a several internet descriptions of the Aztec gods and can see none that correspond particularly with any Valar.

This last clue seems to point to Ulmo and his Ulumuri horns.
 
Go on, go on. I've just googled Ulumuri, and one of the returns had the answer on the first line...
 
The conch shell is associated with the Aztec wind god Quetzalcoatl

The (sliced front view of the) conch shell was one of the signature symbols of the Wind God, who played a central role in the creation of humankind in Mexica mythology, by challenging Mictlantecuhtli in the underworld with the aid of a conch shell trumpet. He alone had the power to blow the breath of life into beings and sacred objects that would otherwise have remained lifeless. The conch was universally an announcing instrument in Mesoamerica (learn more from the link below, in our Aztec Music section), blown particularly to herald battles, ceremonial processions, and sacred rituals
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It is also associated with the Vala Ulmo, Lord of Waters, who had a horn called the Ulumuri.

Speaking of Ulmo's companion Maiar in "Of the beginning of days" Tolkien writes of the Maia Salmar
Salmar came with him to Arda, he who made the horns of Ulmo, that none may ever forget who once has heard them
It is interesting to note a further coincidence. The god Quetzalcoatl eventually hid in the sea, descending therein at a town called Coatzacoalcos which means "site of the snake". This is also the birthplace of the actress Salma Hayek.

It's possible that Salma is a common name in those parts, and the JRRT was aware of this and made the association when creating Ulmo and his conch horn.
 
We've been doing this too long. :) It's becoming impossible to find a new thing to ask.

So all I can think of is When and where was the log all right.
 
Lookimg back, the vast majority of the questions come from The Hobbit, LotR or The Silmarillion - but other books are permitted.

The List:
  • The Hobbit
  • The Lord of the Rings
  • The Silmarillion
  • The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien
  • The Children of Hurin
  • Unfinished Tales
Do we need to add more? Open to comments/requests...
 
I have asked questions from the 1st 3 because those are the ones I've read. (and several times each).
I'm half way through the Unfinished tales as an audiobook. (so less easy to look up questions) and I have a copy of the letters and have read one or two but not all.

Does The Children of Hurin expand greatly on the section of the same name in the Unfinished Tales? (Which itself expands on the same stories in The Silmarillion.)
If not, I probably won't read it, I'm afraid, just to find new questions. :D
 
farntfar said:
We've been doing this too long. :) It's becoming impossible to find a new thing to ask.

So all I can think of is When and where was the log all right.
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The only 'log' I can think of is Gollum floating down the Anduin, but I'm not tying it up with him being 'all right'.
 
HareBrain said:
I can quote the line perfectly, and I know the book, but not the chapter! Will you allow that?
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As it turns out, I couldn't quote it perfectly! But I have tracked it down.

"As far as he could remember, Sam slept through the night in deep content, if logs are contented." (LOTR Book I, ch7, In the House of Tom Bombadil)
 
Hmm! Tricky.
HB. It pretty much fits the clue, but isn't what I was after. I really need the log to be all right, not contented.
So an excellent answer, but Marvin is actually talking of the correct log.
If you find the quote, PM, I'd be happier.
 
farntfar said:
Hmm! Tricky.
HB. It pretty much fits the clue, but isn't what I was after. I really need the log to be all right, not contented.
So an excellent answer, but Marvin is actually talking of the correct log.
If you find the quote, PM, I'd be happier.
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Good answer by HB, I thought you'd got it.


Here you go.:)


"The log's all right," said Frodo. 'There are many in the River. But leave out the eyes!"
 
That's what I was after, Marvin. So a floating bell to you, and the next question.

It being that time of year, I offer a bunch discontented bluebells to Harebrain as well.
 
From the start I thought this might be Tolkien's brother Hilary, so the quote would be from Tolkien's letters, but I wouldn't be able to find it (even assuming I'm right, which I might not be).
 
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