What it takes to make a great villan

Evil. Soul-crunching, hope-smothering, black evil.

Just kidding. They also need intelligence and clear goals that consist of more than ruling or destroying the world. Ideally this means their goals are good, but their methods are bad, or that their goals are almost right, but fatally flawed. And they should have tremendous dedication to said cause, so much so that they are willing to sell everything they own, including their own mothers and their own honor in pursuit of it.

It helps if they are charismatic too, with a streak of generosity and honor. Except they can't talk too much. Monologuing is over-rated.
 
I tend to remember the type of villain who has real human feelings and emotions, but does evil things anyway. I get bored of soulless black-heart types.. Also, highly intelligent, and good looking, ices the proverbial cake.
 
They should be fallible and have some good points so that characters are charmed by them. Soulless pits of evil aren't interesting at all.

An example of a good villain would be Saruman, even Gandalf was taken in by his deception. A bad one, in the sense of being utterly uninteresting, is the Sauron as he was in LotR. He may have been a bit more interesting in Silmarillion when he was still a Vala, but I haven't read it.
 
A believable mind set. very few people ever believe that they are evil or even wrong, normally what they are doing appears to them as the only rational actions in fitting with their beliefs, its just that the rest of the world is wrong.

I think someone who believes they are right or even worse, righteous in their actions can be alot more scary than a villian who's a self-serving criminal. Particuarly if they have the power to back it up, be it physical, social, political or whatever.
 
Every bad guy character played by Alan Rickman...

True, but I think this is because he portrays them well. They always seem to have a goal, not just 'kill and steal for fun'. They are also have character rather than card board cutouts. A personality that fits in with their desires e.g. Gruber and his not being just a common thief lines.
A truly great villain has to be, in some ways, more believable and able to connect with the reader/audience than the hero rather than being an anonymous shadow to give the hero something to do.
 
I'd say that's the point, really... at least, if you're going to write a villain, you have to understand that villain... so they have to make sense to you. Very few people in history ever saw themselves as evil, chose to be such because it was evil (or evil was more fun)... they had understandable, even if skewed, motivation for what they did... or they were complete sociopaths, in which case their psychology can be understood, though the convolutions are a bit bewildering at times, and being in their heads you're very aware they're mentally unbalanced.

So I'd say the point about Rickman is a good clue... a truly good villain must have layers, just as any other good character, if they are to have much in the way of "onstage" time. If their presence is felt rather than seen, then such isn't always necessary (say, the presence of Dracula, which permeates the novel, where he is actually physically present very little, or Sauron in LotR, where it is the feeling of the threat rather than his actual presence that works -- and incidentally, Sauron does have a bit more to him than surface... it's just that it's very lightly touched in rather than stated...).
 
I like the type of villain who has real human feelings and emotions.

A villain you can connect to even if you think he is horrible person/thing.

Someone who is as evil as the devil for no reason isnt insteresting at all.
 
I like the type of villain who has real human feelings and emotions.

A villain you can connect to even if you think he is horrible person/thing.

Someone who is as evil as the devil for no reason isnt insteresting at all.

Interesting choice there, Connavar, as even Satan/Lucifer has always had some motivation for becoming who/what he did, if you look closely. Certainly Milton provided plenty of motivation (all based on the theological views of his time and before)... so even going back to that basis, we're still dealing with a being more multi-dimensional than people often realize....
 

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