Is there gonna be a Magneto movie?

[Heck Tate]

I thought Gambit's secondary power is a kind of hypnosis? I know he can't control time, though there were some X-Men from the future who seemed to be able to do this and kept appearing in the past (present?) to keep the X-Men from screwing up.

 

[Perpetual Man]

When Gambit first appeared he was working with Storm, going up against a Xavier level telepath called the Shadow King. Gambit spoke really fast, huge bubbles of dialogue - when he did this people just seemed to be swayed by him, even to the extent that the Shadow King commented on it - something along the line, that he almost did what Gambit was asking without even considering it, a level of persuasion the like of which he had never seen.

For better or worse I've read comics (of various types) for all my life, in fact over the last three months I've not read a single one, which is probably the longest period I've ever gone without reading one. Sad but true

My favourite X-Man? Cyclops.

 

[Mouse]

I'm sure I read the time thing somewhere...

And Cyclops?! Gah!

 

[Heck Tate]

Cyclops? I never understood why Marvel villains didn't just build a shield of red glass to avoid Cyclops's lasers. If his sunglasses hold back the lasers, it stands to reason that any red lens can do the same. I always thought Havoc was the cooler of the Summers brothers. He had a cool power and was a nice realistic character, unlike Scott who always seemed too perfectly good to me. I did like the comment about Gambit possibly being the third brother, though. I never knew that.

 

[Perpetual Man]

I think it was more a character thing, rather than the power. Seeing him grow from a skinny kid, through to the leader of the team, to someone who, until recently at least, was said to have leadership skills on a level with Captain America. Cyclops also had a talent (one that seems to have vanished recently) for spacial geometrics, tied in with his powers - with just a glance he could take in the layout of a room, filled with enemies and with one blast hit everything in the room, all the angles for rebounds etc, worked out. (Wolverine saw him do it in the Danger Room once and said, "Remind me never to face you over the pool table, bub.")

Yeah, the glasses are a handicap, but it's not just red glass, but has to be ruby ground quartz. And in an old. old storyline, the idea of the Twelve was a major story line, the 12 most powerful mutants, and yup Cyclops was one of them.

As to Gambit, I think the theory was that he was an orphan, his powers were energy based - the same type of energy as Havok and Cyclops, his appearance was similar to both the Summers boys, the cavalier attitude of Corsair and and they eyes....

 

[Heck Tate]

Ahhh the ruby thing is actually a really nice explanation for my problem. After you mentioned the third Summers brother I took the time to look it up and it turns out that Vulcan is the lost brother. Adam X, Gambit, and even Apocalypse were rumored to be the brother before Vulcan's origin was revealed. The Apocalypse one was the most ridiculous, the way it was supposed to work out would have had Corsair knocking up some random (possibly mutant) girl and a time traveler bringing the child (Apocalypse) back in time to ancient Egypt. I'm glad it didn't turn out that way.

BTW it's refreshing to be able to have an X-Men (or any superhero for that matter) discussion without a single "NERD!" being thrown out there, haha.

 

[Perpetual Man]

Yeah, Vulcan was specifically created for the role of third Summers brother.

I think here on the Chrons, it'd be very unusual for the word Nerd to be used... I hope.

 

[sloweye]

I think we need to see more Gambit in the next few movies before they give him his own, it's just such a shame he hasn't been included more. he was always top of my list from the comics and cartoons.

 

[Heck Tate]

I'm in my last year of being an English communications major right now, and in certain literature classes I've taken discussions of comic books / graphic novels have popped up. Strange though it may seem, most of the other book worms (and i use the term endearingly) frown upon comics as a form of literature.

 

[sloweye]

I think here on the Chrons, it'd be very unusual for the word Nerd to be used... I hope.

You know that only because we all are so we just take it as read

 

[Perpetual Man]

I'm in my last year of being an English communications major right now, and in certain literature classes I've taken discussions of comic books / graphic novels have popped up. Strange though it may seem, most of the other book worms (and i use the term endearingly) frown upon comics as a form of literature.

This always seems to be the case, unfortunately. No matter how well written they are comics, either collected as graphic novels or original GN, get frowned on, no matter what is said about them, or who writes them (or how successful the movies are that come out based on them)

Both Watchmen and the Dark Knight Returns are always touted as being the benchmark for superhero literature, but the recent run of Captain America has been highly acclaimed, and in my opinion the Captain Britain story The Jaspers Warp has never been surpassed; with a notable entry from the Proteus/Dark Phoenix story in the X-Men.

Of course there are the non-hero comics, Sandman, Y The Last Man, Fables all of which are worth mentioning, and really are literature, but I get the feeling they get the 'but they're comic' looks.

Perhaps most notably there is Maus, in my opinion one of the most important and well written books of all time, something that Marvel tried to emulate with the fairly recent Magneto series, which was good, but not that good, but would make a tremendous origins movie (Do you see what I did there?)

 

[Heck Tate]

I have to admit I'm not as well read in the world of comics as you. I have mostly stuck to various X-Men, Green Lantern, Batman, and Alan Moore comics. I looked up some of the series you mentioned though, Sandman looks particularly interesting while Maus almost immediately reminded me of Animal Farm. I'll have to see if I can pick up some copies of those somewhere.

 

[Perpetual Man]

Maus is very strange in its brilliance. Yeah, all the characters are animals, but it is a close autobiographical account of the author's life living through the holocaust, and somehow the fact that they are all animals makes it all the more real.

 

[Heck Tate]

It definitely looks like the kind of thing that people might have taken as disturbing if it were done with humans, but the fact that it was with animals makes the reader step back and view it more allegorically I guess. Again I haven't read it, only glanced at it's Wikipedia page, but it does seem like it would be an interesting read.

To bring us back around to the original theme of this thread, did you say Marvel tried to make a series that was essentially the story of Magneto's time in concentration camps?

 

[Mouse]

Cyclops also had a talent (one that seems to have vanished recently) for spacial geometrics, tied in with his powers - with just a glance he could take in the layout of a room, filled with enemies and with one blast hit everything in the room, all the angles for rebounds etc, worked out.

Don't know if you've ever seen the most recent X Men cartoon (Wolverine and the X Men) but I'm pretty sure Cyclops does something like that in one of the eps. I remember thinking 'blimey, he can actually do something!'

I think we need to see more Gambit in the next few movies before they give him his own, it's just such a shame he hasn't been included more. he was always top of my list from the comics and cartoons.

Yes yes yes. I was gutted he didn't appear in the first film! Then disappointed beyond all disappointment about his too-brief appearance in the Wolverine film!

Anyway, back on topic... I've just looked on IMDB and can see Deadpool (2012) but no Magneto.

 

[Perpetual Man]

To bring us back around to the original theme of this thread, did you say Marvel tried to make a series that was essentially the story of Magneto's time in concentration camps?

The series was called Magneto Testament.

Over the years after they started turning Magneto into a more rounded character, and we learned that he had been in Auschwitz, he gained a name (Magnus to start with), and saw little snippets of his life -spread out over years and countless different titles.

Testament was a good attempt of stitching it all together, in a complete story and giving Magneto his full name for the first time.

There's hardly any superhero action in it, just a dramatic story of a young man having his life being torn apart, and the struggle for survival in a concentration camp, culminating with the end of the war.

There are some good text pieces at the end and a true little story that is as sad as it is true

 

[devilsgrin]

Sorry to say guys, but theres about a 0% chance of there ever being a Gambit movie.
He simply does not have the public recognition required. Even 2nd tier X-Men (public awareness fame tiers, not character importance) like Beast, Rogue and Iceman couldn't hold a movie.

The only way Gambit gets a major x-role is in a Storm movie, since he has no great ties to any other top tier X-Men. She is his ONLY friend. He's likeable, but people don't trust him - even Rogue doesn't trust him. Only Storm, and she knows him best (its arguable that Rogue does, since she once absorbed his psyche, but the thoughts we have are not our actions, and we should not be judged on thoughts, but on deeds, and their intentions.)

Magneto movies isn't going to happen. Unless X-Men First Class does VERY well. And unfortunately, First Class is looking like X-Men Origins: Professor X combined with X-Men Origins: Magneto... its less likely that Mags would get a movie anyway. I think the cast chosen for First Class - and the characters NOT in it, pave the way for those absent characters (Cyclops, Storm and Jean Grey) to possibly get their own Origins. Consider that these three, aside from Wolverine are inarguably the most famous of the X-Men. Indeed, Storm especially, is seem as one of Marvel's major postergirls. She's in EVERYthing that marvel does if it incorporates characters from more than one franchise.

 

[Perpetual Man]

I'd love to be able to argue about a Gambit movie, but unfortunately Devilsgrin is probably right, done right Gambit would make an excellent movie, but actually happening? That being said if the right director came along wanted to make one, miracles can happen. There is a push for an Antman film, and he is hardly the most high profile Marvel hero...

(Rogue might not trust Gambit, but she does love him - not a requirement for friendship perhaps. When she used to touch someone, the lack of control of her powers meant she took everything - not just thoughts and powers, but appearance and personality so her actions would have been influenced by Gambit in the same way - whether she would remeber and understand that as it all faded is another thing altogether!)

The Magneto movie is a different kettle of fish, there was going to be one, it was lined up to follow Wolverine, it might have been dropped for now, but there is a chance of it being resurrected later down the line.

 

[Heck Tate]

Unfortunately, Devils is probably right. Gambit is an awesome character and his story would make for a great movie, but Hollywood cares only for money and Gambit just doesn't have the following that makes him look like a wad of cash to movie producers. I had heard about Magneto Origins right after Wolverine's movie came out, but like Devil said, it seems they've just stripped that movie and combined it with Professor X's story, which makes sense in a way. Their stories are closely tied together and fans of the movies who never read the comics are likely interested in seeing how the two of them had their falling out. Maybe when I'm rich and famous I'll throw some money at producers to make a Gambit movie regardless of how much money it will bring in .

 

[Mouse]

I think Gambit has a pretty big following. But that's coming from a Gambit fangirl so what do I know?!

I was gutted he wasn't in the first film, and as a watcher of the 90s cartoon where he was one of the main characters, was surprised that he wasn't in the films from beginning.

But then I guess if he was, he would've overshadowed Wolverine.