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Do you think I’ve been a little premature in introducing a literary agent to my novel? With my story characters tearing at the fabric of space and time to come out and meet the world, I got so excited about completing book one of an eight novel series; that I packaged it up and send off a bunch of chapters without sitting on it for at least another week or so.
Initially, and after the first couple of weeks, I was so happy with it… Every page burst with showers of rainbows, certain characters leapt from wormholes in the manuscript to tap the unsuspecting reader on the shoulder.
But then, today, I glanced upon the first page of the first chapter, and thought I could write those initial two paragraphs better. I am not sure if I am being overly critical or not, but for some reason, those two paragraphs felt a lot more ‘telly’ than ‘showy’ if you know what I mean – a poor contrast to the rest of the novel, which still sparkles like fresh dew-drops catching those first rays of sunlight upon a tree.
This novel, and indeed the entire series, is something extremely special to me. I practically live in that world with all those characters, and find myself ‘talking’ to them everyday… They’re real people to me; the story world a real place. I want the whole world to meet them and explore this new realm. I want people to enter the local town during a festival and challenge Ishy to a tequila race, for them to go to the battle of the bands and use those seemingly magical glow-sticks with Layla...

To be honest with you, those characters and the world had been alive in me long before K.T. came. I’d been writing about them before; dreaming, exploring, thinking what so-and-so would do if they were in the same situation as me. The little stories evolved, and before I knew it, a couple of years ago when I was still an undergraduate at the University of Leicester, I wrote my first novel.
This novel about a vampire who falls in love with a medieval princess was really just to help win the heart of a girl… It worked, of course, and now after two years, we are still going out and talking about living together when I finish my PhD.
Just one novel was not enough for me though… I was hooked! I wanted to write more. All of a sudden I had so many ideas for stories, plots, and other goings on, that the characters found themselves in several places at once. I wanted to become an author. I loved writing, I loved reading… And, I loved the buzz of seeing characters leap from the pages to meet the reader.

Someone suggested I try and get that vampire novel I’d written for my girlfriend published.
The following week, an established author came to the university. I was in my final year. I managed to arrange a meeting with her to discuss the industry as a whole.
She asked, “How long is your novel?”
“One hundred and twenty-five thousand words”
She promptly told me this was too long… cut it by at least twenty thousand. Most first novels are around the eighty mark.
I took that to heart, thanked her for all the advise, and continued on my merry way reading whatever I could lay my hands on, writing all that came to mind. Mostly about those story characters though; those who still had yet to feature in the written word.

I edited through that old vampire novel of mine, cutting scenes, rewriting entire chapters, and in the end trimmed it to just under eighty-seven thousand. Then, I had a new idea for a novel: A kiddie one with talking squirrels and a fox with a custard pie obsession.
Fingers went to keyboard, and I bore a second.
I’d sent the first to a couple of agents and publishers to see what sort of response I’d get.
Someone at Christopher Little returned the sample chapters and had actually edited the first few pages for me. Not sure if they meant to do that or not, but the rejection letter I received seemed to be personally typed. One other sent a card, and another a letter which was so obviously printed from a template, I thought a slip would have done just the same. The fourth send what looked like a personal letter saying just how much they loved the story, and the well-written verse, only it just wasn’t quite the genre they were looking for.
My housemate at the time said, “Now you have rejection letters, you are a proper writer…”
It turns out her mother was an author too.
The vampire novel was put aside. I had new projects in mind.
I finished the story about the talking squirrels, and had a lot of laughs in the process.
I wrote a third, and then a forth… The characters were swimming in that ocean of words. I couldn’t help it. They just flowed, like a tsunami from my fingertips.
By this point I realised I had a series in the making. All the stories connected, they were all from the same world.
Number five followed…. I had set it as a prequel to the second.
Now it was time for the rewrite.
I picked up that old vampire novel I’d written for my beloved, then gathered the printed manuscript of “Show and Tell” (The original title of the fifth) and at once the two seemed to turn to liquid gold. They flowed into each other. And, where the liquids touched, a blazing light came.
I knew, from that point, what I had to do; rewrite both novels as one. It turned out to be the best thing I’d written so far. I had put the full-stop on the last page just a couple of weeks ago.
Now, book two wants to emerge from the ocean.


Twilight













 
Every page burst with showers of rainbows, certain characters leapt from wormholes in the manuscript to tap the unsuspecting reader on the shoulder.

Well, it's good that you have such a high opinion of your work ... but I suppose it can also be a bit of a double-edged sword. Personally, by the time I get to draft 3 or 4, everything seems to be a bit stale ... (but then, I'm definitely more of a Glass Half-Empty kind of person ...)

... the rest of the novel, which still sparkles like fresh dew-drops catching those first rays of sunlight upon a tree.

After working on something, and then rewriting it, and then rewriting it again, my work certainly doesn't seem to sparkle. As such, I tend to leave a fair bit of time between each draft, and move on to a few shorter projects; radio scripts, short stories, etc ... I find it does me the world of good to forget about the piece, and then come back to it with fresh eyes. By that point, I'm more positive about the thing as a whole ... not to mention noticing the glaring errors, which stick out a mile!
 
Thanks for the view points. I can understand where you both come from there too. When I pick up the vampire novel I'd written a few years ago, it looks utter tripe now... Things stick out at me which other people may, or may not, notice. I loved the story and plot to it, and that (in part) inspired the idea of combining it with another.

From what I can tell, even a rejection is an experience to learn from. One wonders what may have happened if I chose to submit those subsequent novels (say the one about the talking squirrels) ... Had one been published, I may not have written K.T. as I know it now, and all my characters would have experienced something different.
It see those early novels as part of the learning curve, and they will all play a part in the series to come.

I just sometimes wonder if one can ever be wholly satisfied with their work, even after publication. Can a writer be guilty of 'over editing'? Is it possible to rewrite so much that one never gets round to actually sending off the manuscript in the first place?
Certainly, having someone cast a fresh eye on the stories is a great benefit. My girlfriend helps out at lot here. But we stil have differences of opinion. I'll see a paragraph I can write better; a sentence or two that I think should be deleted, and she'll say it's all OK - nothing to worry about. And sometimes I wonder if she is just saying that, even though she swears she is not.
At times, as I write each chapter in turn, Phoe will stumble on something that does not quite make sense, and that, to me, is worth while.


Twi
 
I wouldn't worry too much about it now. Novels are in a state of Schrodinger-esque flux until you send them out that first time... then they are either one thing or the other: interesting to the person you've submitted to, or not. If it comes back with a "no"... hey, it's just the first attempt. Polish up then and re-send out. If they like it... then there's no need to worry about your first two pars, because they were obviously grabbers!
 
I wouldn't worry too much about it now. Novels are in a state of Schrodinger-esque flux until you send them out that first time... then they are either one thing or the other: interesting to the person you've submitted to, or not. If it comes back with a "no"... hey, it's just the first attempt. Polish up then and re-send out. If they like it... then there's no need to worry about your first two pars, because they were obviously grabbers!

Thanks. I'd best not disturb the wavefunction then... :)

...

Now I've just realised someone's hacked my gallery website and stuck something nasty there. Only just set the thing up too. What drives people to do such things? And why?

Anyway. Off to try and sort out that website now. I might have to rebuilt it from scratch.

Definately one of those days. lol

Twi
 
I always suggest putting a novel away for at least a month when it's finished, then re-reading and editing, because you'll be able to look at it coldly and objectively.

Once an agent or publisher has said 'No thanks', they mostly won't want to see another book from you - it's your prose that has to fire their enthusiasm, not just the story ('Oh, this is a much better idea' isn't the point if they don't like the way you put words together). If you'r prose doesn't sparkle and work for them subjectively, they want you to move on to someone else. So don't waste your one opportunity with any agent or publisher by sending out work that isn't the best it can be.
 
Thanks John. That's some excellent advise to take on board.

There is that problem of, "Is an author going to be fully happy with their work?"
I know, for instance, J.R.R. Tolkien mentioned something about wishing he had rewritten parts of Lord of the Rings well after it had been published. He saw things in his story that others, perhaps, did not. But then, as you say, if an agent or publisher does not like the prose, then there is not much one can do about it except to move on, and learn from the experience.


Twi
 
Personally, I find it hard to judge my own work just after i've finished it. What I meant to say (or what I saw when I was writing) is still so fresh in my mind it interferes with what I actually put on the page. The longer I leave between finishing and redrafting the nearer I get to the viewpoint of someone who will be picking this story up and reading it for the first time.

I have read the advice of some authors who recommend leaving things alone for 6 weeks after finishing them, other writers say it should be much longer. I suppose it depends on how eager you are to get your stuff out there.

Do you show your stuff to any friends before you send it out? I have a friend who is a very keen reader and he has looked over one of my stories. It's a helpful process - quite interesting to see what they thought the strengths and weaknesses were, especially when they don't like your favourite bits and like the bits you thought were quite pedestrian!
 
Do you show your stuff to any friends before you send it out? I have a friend who is a very keen reader and he has looked over one of my stories. It's a helpful process - quite interesting to see what they thought the strengths and weaknesses were, especially when they don't like your favourite bits and like the bits you thought were quite pedestrian!

I know I do... My girlfriend is very much my own personal editor at the moment. :)

I have to admit though, lately I had been suffering from that afliction known as 'the gitters' - you know the feeling right? You have a finished novel, the first of many, and you are hit by that initial adrenaline rush of preparing a submission or two, which you send out sometime later.
Then... All this stuff goes through your mind. Good and bad things, all of which can be an experience nevertheless. I know I am the world's worst when it comes to niggles. And sometimes they explode out of all proportion.
My girlfriend had a go at me last night for being silly. She absolutely loves this series I'm developing.
"It's amazing." She says, "Don't change anything."
Mind you, my beloved also talks to the characters as much as I do... Perhaps even more. One of her close friends read a couple of pages (an earlier draft) and loved it too. And now they talk about goings on in the 'L' place as if gossiping about last night's events down the pub. On our little get togethers the live-action-role-play comes in very useful indeed.

The novel itself was originally written as two, which I merged to one later, then sat on for about three months or so, then rewrote, edited, sat on, then edited again before sending out. So I guess in the scheme of things, I did sit on it for a while. I'd completed the last edit near the end of March, and then spent the following week planning out book two (a new and important character comes to play here, and I needed the right entrance for her)... About half that time was spent down the pub. :D


Twi
 
Would your girlfriend tell you if she hated it, though?

If she would love you, yes, as she would tell everything else that sucks. If not, then there would be no holding back when the pans and the pots are flying. Even your friends would do that (if they really care). They would say it on your face there and then. Last thing would be when you see what the editors say about your manuscript.

Note, with you, I mean the general audience, not Doctor Sax (because he's brilliant). :p
 
My missus doesn't get to read anything until it's published.

Novels are between me and my agent. Shorts I sometimes punt out to a closed internet reading group before submission, sometimes not.
 
If she would love you, yes, as she would tell everything else that sucks. If not, then there would be no holding back when the pans and the pots are flying. Even your friends would do that (if they really care). They would say it on your face there and then. Last thing would be when you see what the editors say about your manuscript.

Note, with you, I mean the general audience, not Doctor Sax (because he's brilliant). :p

I agree. My girlfriend and I talk to each other about everything - even down to the smallest of niggles. I have always said to her I prefer brutal honesty. If it sucks, say so and why... She reads it subjectively - as someone picking the novel up in a bookstore might, and she has pointed out one or two things that I hadn't noticed in the past, which helps.

One could argue I am writing something that my girlfriend particularly enjoys, that other people may not... That is quite possible. Not everyone will like the same thing, and I feel that is the same with publishers and agents. One may hate it. Another will think it's the best thing since Yorkshire Puds.
 

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