Episode 412 - A Disquiet that Follows My Soul

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*Spoiler Alert*That was perhaps the most uncomfortable episode to watch in this saga so far. I have to admit, I really did not think about until Lee and Dee were saying goodnight to each other, but in the original BSG, Apollo lost his wife and two minutes later...then it made sense. Her character saw no more hope ahead and found her pinnacle of happiness in the moment and wanted to stay there. Too bad, there is something to say about those that endure to the end. It was a depressing show, but I laughed harder than I have in a long time when Lee said, 'Good news is, real estate prices are low.' He had a few other good lines too. It's going to be a dark second half...
 
Felix sure did look at Lee like he wanted to whack him, didn't he?

wonder what they are going to do with Starbuck?
 
I have no idea where they are planning to go for the rest of the series but after last night it wouldn't surprise me any to find out that the entire "human" race is actually cylons caught in their own endless circle of destruction. I don't mind the show being as dark as it has become, but I do miss the constant tension of being on the run that the first two seasons maintained so well. My only concern with the direction the show is moving would be that the story doesn't force the characters to act completely out of character.
 
I have been waiting a long time for a new BSG and this episode left me completely unsatisfied. They haven't answered any of the cliffhangers left from the first half of the season, and just opened more questions. This is exactly the paralysis of the plot that turned me off from Lost. I am so tired of being strung along about who the last cylon is I just don't care anymore. I know they made it seem like it was Ellen, but that doesn't explain Kara's dead body. Really it seems like they are just going to say that they really are all cylons who left the planet before a nuclear war, but that seems like a weak twist to me. Not to mention it looks like they are going to string along the twist until the last episode which is twice as weak.
 
It was very, very, very sad. I almost couldn't watch it. If I had known there was going to be a suicide on it, I probably wouldn't have. That generally messes with my head.
 
So do you think then the Cylon home world is Earth? I heard they were going to show it in season 2 or 3, but never did. I also heard they were supposed to find Earth 200 years from our time now. Well I guess they have a lot of explaining to do, and I'm sure they'll do it in the next 9 episodes. I was peeved when I found out about four of the final five as they are some of my favorite characters. What they have done with them after their revealing is redeeming my feelings on the matter, just as long as they never came off an assembly line and are one of a kinds, I think I can live with that plot twist. So, have they the ability to resurrect or have they been resurrected by the one true God? Hmmm...
 
I have been waiting a long time for a new BSG and this episode left me completely unsatisfied. They haven't answered any of the cliffhangers left from the first half of the season, and just opened more questions. This is exactly the paralysis of the plot that turned me off from Lost. I am so tired of being strung along about who the last cylon is I just don't care anymore. I know they made it seem like it was Ellen, but that doesn't explain Kara's dead body. Really it seems like they are just going to say that they really are all cylons who left the planet before a nuclear war, but that seems like a weak twist to me. Not to mention it looks like they are going to string along the twist until the last episode which is twice as weak.

The paralysis of the plot in Lost and BSG was down to the writers on both shows not having a time frame to finish the show in. Once both shows set an end date, they got a lot better (Lost's fourth season was easily the best to date, and the penultimate Season 5 looks very interesting and different).

The producers have also clearly stated that they can't leave all of the mysteries for the final episode as there wouldn't be time to address all of them. Their statements, and the actors' suggest that each remaining episode will look at and try to answer an outstanding storyline, character or mystery element from the show. For example, this week's episode:

Will apparently resolve Tom Zarek's storyline and the political direction the Fleet has taken since New Caprica, as well as revisiting some of the other ships in the Fleet and bringing in how the revelation of Tyrol being a Cylon has impacted on the 'common workers' of the Fleet he previously represented. Subsequent episodes will address how the Final Five were reborn after the destruction of Earth, whether it is possible to bring Ellen back via the same methodology, what happened to the other Cylons after the civil war, who the 'head-people' are, what Hera's destiny is and what happened to Starbuck.

For what it's worth most of the remaining mysteries in the show are supposed to have been answered by episode 417 or 418 at the latest, so the finale can concetrate on resolution rather than exposition.

I also heard they were supposed to find Earth 200 years from our time now.

Apparently this was from an on-set source who misread the script where it said the 13th Tribe was wiped out 2,000 years ago and thought it was 200. They also clearly thought that we were the 13th Tribe, which we clearly are not, since the 13th Tribe was on Earth for less than 2,000 years whilst we have 10,000 years of recorded history. If the Earth shown in the mid-season episodes is 'our' Earth (the producers have not commited themselves in interviews to anything beyond than this is the planet that the sacred scrolls call Earth), then clearly our time is in its remote past or remote future.
 
Lost lost me a long time ago when they kept just adding more ridiculous questions about the island. BSG hooked me in its first season with its ability to challenge ideas about politics, love, humanity, war, sacrifice, leadership, and loyalty. It lost me when it became to dark to answer any of the questions it stirred up.

Needless to say I will watch the last episodes, but I find it hard to imagine that they will get back to how good the first, or second season was.
 
I have no idea where they are planning to go for the rest of the series but after last night it wouldn't surprise me any to find out that the entire "human" race is actually cylons caught in their own endless circle of destruction. I .

we're all cylons, that's what i think. it's almost an M Night Shamaylan twist.

So when D'Anna sees the face of the 5th cylon in the operahouse, and she says something like "I'm sorry, i didn't know", maybe that face was everyone's face.
 
we're all cylons, that's what i think. it's almost an M Night Shamaylan twist.

So when D'Anna sees the face of the 5th cylon in the operahouse, and she says something like "I'm sorry, i didn't know", maybe that face was everyone's face.

Possibly. I think a better possibility, though, is that it was Tigh or Anders, as she had met only those two (maybe Tyrol in the reporter story) and had tortured one and almost shot the other. The theory that we are all cylons holds water a little more for me, but there has to be more to it than that. In the last episode of season three as the camera pans out from the battle to zoom in to what is obviously Earth, I tried hard to see if you could see any lights from cities, but it's hard to tell. The reason I checked is because when they do finally 'find' Earth, they never show recognizable land that the viewer could say, yup, they found Earth. So I'm sure that is not an oversight and I'm sure there will be plenty o' plot twists and incredible revalations in the episodes to come. Starbuck's resurrection perplexes me, another reason I checked out that pic of Earth, to see if her arrival did something to bring destruction to the planet. Didn't Admiral Adama say something about wormholes awhile back? Do you think they would introduce a Star Trek gimick into the storyline?
 
OOPS! I feel like such a nugget. I, who started this thread, just realized Episode 412 - A Disquiet that Follows my Soul, was tonight's episode. Well, I at least matched the proper episode number with the shows name, so no harm done. I'm such a maroon. Soooo, 'some days I really hate this job,' says Admiral Adama. Great one liners in these new episodes, nice balance with the mood. Good to see old friends put their new found differences aside to still maintain their friendship - in particular the Admiral and the XO. So with the revelation that Tyrol's child was actually fathered by Hot Dog, I couldn't help but wonder, was Cally the one who gave Hot Dog that rash he complained about in season 3, was it? Let the speculation begin!
 

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