Is it worth it?

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I like Steven Eriksons books even though I have only read GotM and DHG. I enjoyed both quite a bit but I got seriously lost in DHG with the happenings. It kinda put me off and I was waiting for this super emotional event at the end of the book but I did not experience it. I have been hesitating to pick up MOI. Is it worth carrying on, should I stick it out and wait for good things in this series. I have bought a few of the books in the series up to Bonehunters. Or was I just one of those unlucky sods who was just a bit overwhelmed with DHG? Please convince me to carry on reading as I found it quite an enjoyable series so far besides the points mentioned.
 
Well I can assure you that MOI is the best book in the series, so for that reason alone you should probably give it a go. I always say that after reading MOI if folk aren't convinced that this is one of the greatest SFF series of all time then so be it, it's probably not their cup of tea.

The magic systems, revelations and ending are all superb IMO. It's also by the time you have read MOI that you feel as if you're getting a solid handle on the complexity of the series and hence are able to progress with the latter books with a much better understanding of what is going on. At least that is what I found.

For me the series really only goes up from DHG onwards and of course the worldbuilidng is just great.

Anyway, maybe wait to see what other members here think of the series to determine whether you wish to proceed further.

Bye for now.....
 
Totally. As Gollum says, Memories of Ice is best.

I couldn't get into Deadhouse Gates at first; complete change of characters and setting meant I just wasn't getting into it, but then I reread it and enjoyed it. That one is pretty heavy going, not much fun stuff happening, only Felisin whining all the time and then that incredibly dramatic ending. Memories of Ice is great; back with those characters that -- personally, anyway -- you got used to in the first book and loved. There's a lot of humour from the Bridgeburners and large awesome battles taking up a large portion of the book. So as Gollum says, at least carry on to this book just so you can say you've read it.
 
Cool, will give this one a bash and if I like it then will carry on. I think I messed up the experience by reading it too quickly and getting too confused by reading too quickly. Are the rest of the books a bit more easier to read than DHG?
 
I think there's always a element of confusion with the series (I'm up to about book five and I still don't quite know what's going on all the time) but that's probably because it's such a huge tale, with some many threads and characters all over the place, and Erikson purposely keeping some things back, that cause such. It's more a case of just enjoying the epic story and not getting too concerned if you don't pick up every tiny detail.

But at the same time, as you do read further, you get to know the characters better, understand the layout of the lands, know which races are which, and who's trying to do what. Makes for easier reading, definitely.
 
Cool, will give this one a bash and if I like it then will carry on. I think I messed up the experience by reading it too quickly and getting too confused by reading too quickly. Are the rest of the books a bit more easier to read than DHG?

I would say that although they are great books, they can overwhelme some people cos theres so much going on adn that sometimes puts people off.
I personally was hooked on book one but only 'roughly' figured out what was going on by book 3. Mind you, having read all books so far, I'm still in total awe of the scope of things, and would add that on another forum site there are people who have read the series several times and keep findings new things each re-read.


Hope you enjoy Memories of Ice.
 
I am now convinced and will carry on. I have no problem with his style or writing I just find his stories a bit overwhelming and you also expect to have the characters in the sequels which threw me off too. Thanks for the advice guys :)
 
glad to see your going to keep at it Biodriod.

as other members here has stated this series is awesome in scope
and can be quite daunting , you stick with it you will be amazed
as i am everytime i reread it.
i've reread the series so far 4 times. mainly to refresh my mind
of this story and also for the simple joy of this masterpiece
 
I'm reading Deadhouse Gates right now, and was also confused. It might be construed as spoiling the story, but I went to Wiki and read a bit of the plot summary to help me get the factions straight - Path of the Hand, the Red Blades, the Apocalypse, etc. It helped alot and I'm getting more enjoyment from the story not having to guess who's with who.
 
i've reread the series so far 4 times. mainly to refresh my mind
of this story and also for the simple joy of this masterpiece

Holy moly, I battle reading one book a month nevermind re-reading a whole series again, now thats daunting for me!!

AAAARRRRGGGGHH I would love to increase my reading speed at least double.
 
Ditto mate....

This series like George RR Martin's Song Of Ice And Fire has a bit of a cult following and for good reason.

N1 hit the nail on the head saying...I would say that although they are great books, they can overwhelm some people cos there's so much going on and that sometimes puts people off. Unfortunately that is the problem, you need to persevere and then the rewards you reap are well worth the effort. As you progress in the series (MOI and beyond)...things do become easier to gain a grasp on and you can find yourself getting lost for days in his world.

Let us know how you fare...:)
 
@ Gollum,

Thanks :cool:

Also don't know if you know this but over in the Malazan Empire site they have the prologue for DUST OF DREAMS posted up to read. Looks interesting to say the least:D
 
Yep, I'm a regular visitor but good that you posted that so other members can take a look. Only 4 odd months to go.

This forms part 1 of the final set of the series ending in Book 10 Crippled God, I'm sure due sometime in 2010.

The end is nigh....although Erikson will be writing other books on this. I've been following this series since the early 2000s...so I'm keen to see where it all ends.

Cheers......
 
When I first read the first two books, I was exactly like you and didn't know whether to continue reading because of the confusion. As other people have pointed out though, he switches around alot so you have many different plot lines going on at once, but after reading all the way up to TTH I have a new found respect for how he has written his books.
 
I like Steven Eriksons books even though I have only read GotM and DHG. I enjoyed both quite a bit but I got seriously lost in DHG with the happenings.
biodroid, I've also only read these first two books. I may just be arguing semantics with you, but I never got lost. By that, I mean that I never felt that I could not grasp and keep track of the various characters and plots. But that does not mean that I knew what was going on! On a micro level, i.e. the individual characters' stories, I followed the author very well. On a macro level, i.e. the cosmology, divine intervention, the history of magic, and inter-continental politics, I was and still am flummoxed. I often felt lost, but I never got lost... if you take my meaning.

I enjoyed the books even though I usually avoid stories where magic is that rampant. I did not understand the magic, but it's potency and it's real applications seemed well balanced to me. I also liked the way the author mentioned how non-magic users at times had persecuted magicians.

In GOTM and DG, I found that Rallick Nom and Duiker, respectively, were the consciences of the books. Erickson writes about some nasty things done by psychopaths, zealots, and decent people. He writes about horrible events and then forces his characters to deal with the consequences. Rallick Nom and Duiker are the characters trying to balance doing the right thing, staying alive, and being able to live with themselves afterwards.

I just don't know if I could make the mental effort to continue the series or if I want to emotionally descend any further into the violence and villainy of Malazan.
 
I had the same problem as you. I read GOTM, then started to read Deadhouse Fates. The problem wasn't so much the change of characters, it was the personality of the characters that i couldn't get into. So i quited the book after 100 or so pages, started reading some other series, gave it another go, quit again, and so on, till i somehow struggled through it. To date, i still don't like deadhouse gates all that much. I know he wrote her like that on purpose, but i just cant stand Felesin. She was just too annoying. (Well, she is a member of House paran, i disliked Ganoes Paran for a long time, only slowly now starting to warm up to him in the latter books, before that he was just a whining wimp. Tavore so far is the the saving grace of house Paran.)

Though i do like the rest of the series (very much so.) Personally i like Reaper's Gale best of all. Wich is contradictionary to most here who found it less good then the others. However i just loved all the marine parts in that book. The drunk hellian was especially hilarious.
 
The drunk hellian was especially hilarious.

Hellian was genius, I just loved the characterisation. I was thrown by DHG but did really enjoy the book. His wrtiting borders on genius, it has a deep yet elusive quality that really makes you think and rereading books by him is just a secondary pleasure as certain unfathomable things become alot clearer a second time round.

Haven't got round to TOLL yet as I'm a tight arse and am waiting for the paperback lol. But the art work alone inspires serious confidence that it won't disapoint. :rolleyes:
 
I too had trouble with the first book of the series; so many characters, plots and wars to start with! I was encouraged to keep reading, which I did and am now re-reading before the next book comes along.

I used to have issues with the blood and guts in other authors books but for some reason, these books haven't affected me!
 
I used to have issues with the blood and guts in other authors books but for some reason, these books haven't affected me!
Perhaps because the violence makes sense in the context of the overall story arc and adds to the story rather than detracts......interesting observation Rosemary.
 
Or maybe it is because it is written dry.
Like british humor.
 

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