Alien 5 - plot, cast, director?

[Pyan]

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[Connavar]

Wasnt Aliens a direct Sequel ? How you can do more direct sequal than that.

Anyway i hope its very good and not like the horrible fourth. Im a new fan of Alien,Aliens since i only saw them earlier this year for the first time.

If it was James Cameron was i would be sick with excitement since Aliens is a perfect SF horror to me and much stronger than the first.

 

[Pyan]

Wasnt Aliens a direct Sequel ? How you can do more direct sequal than that.

They're talking about it being a prequel, Conn - what happened to the original settlers, and the lead up to Alien itself.

 

[Connavar]

Who cares about them ? Alien series is nothing without Ripley kicking ass and the monsters.

I would prefer an Alien 5 with Ripley getting caught with the Alien monster again.

Eh prequel without Ripley/Weaver is pointless imo !.

 

[clovis-man]

If it was James Cameron was i would be sick with excitement since Aliens is a perfect SF horror to me and much stronger than the first.

I don't think it was better, Conn; just different. Alien was the perfect "haunted house in space" movie. Scared the tweet out of me. Aliens was a marvelous roller-coaster ride. Just be sure to fasten your seat belt.

prequel without Ripley/Weaver is pointless imo !

I know, I've got a thing for Sigourney also. But if the new film is good, I'll find a way to live past it.

 

[Connavar]

Aliens was better in everything but Alien had a great cast,better actors in Ian Holm,John Hurt. Alien was good haunted house in space thing but Aliens was bigger and better.

I thought also Scott used the monster a bit wrong. The story was good but the monster wasn't as creepy as in Aliens.

I would find a way live past it too if it was a total new twist to the series, a new idea. But a prequel about something that we already know and not really more interesting than becoming another monster slasher film is a bit.....

 

[clovis-man]

I thought also Scott used the monster a bit wrong. The story was good but the monster wasn't as creepy as in Aliens.

I would find a way live past it too if it was a total new twist to the series, a new idea. But a prequel about something that we already know and not really more interesting than becoming another monster slasher film is a bit.....

I think that Ridley Scott will not just do a slasher movie. I expect much better from him.

As far as the "fear factor" for the first Alien crature is concerned, I think you just have to have had the opportunity to see it anew. I saw Alien when it first came out along with a friend. All I knew about it was that it involved a creature loose on a spaceship which had the disturbing trait of growing rather quickly. When the film was over, we had to adjourn to the nearest bar to have a beer and unwind. My neck muscles were in a knot from tension. Even at the end of the film, I thought for sure the cat was going to explode and become another creature.

That was a much more intense experience than it would have been if I had seen it for the first time twenty years later, after hearing the inevitable sundry comments and opinions that the intervening years would have supplied.

I had the same experience when I first saw Psycho in a theater, lo these many years ago. If you aren't sure what to expect, the result can be amazing. These are the only two films I've ever seen which had such a startling impact on me.

I wouldn't expect the same from a new Scott treatment of an Alien prequel, but I fully expect to be highly entertained.

 

[J Riff]

Drop Ripley. No Ripley, no Winona. Call the movie ' Aliens Whatever ' and make it be about the Aliens, for a change.
Some of the comic series were good. That could work. A war for the earth.
Do a spin-off for Signoury and Winona.. they can take on the Hulk and Iron Man ...

 

[Tales]

I liked the alien franchise as I think it's so far the only science fiction where the protagonist is a woman. I thought that science fiction is a overly male genre.

 

[J Riff]

There have been many great female SciFi authors. Don't blame them for Hollywood !
And Ripley is now a super-powered Alien clone-beast ... is this the image women want to portray ?

The whole Aliens/Predator/Humans saga is only awaiting the arrival of the other aliens who piloted the ship in the 1st movie. The elephant-head aliens. Bring em' on.

 

[Sweder]

Ridley is safe hands for this attempt to re-rail the Alien saga. '3' was floored (by the studio) and flawed (thanks to Fincher's inexperience and the over-use of east-end profanities which made it seem like an extension of Scum); '4' was a tale of two halves - the last 30 minutes a horrible confusion of psychobable and Alien-Human interface nonsense. The AVP series has been a procession of cliche's, disrespecting the premise established by Scott and Cameron with instant gestation, an over reliance on cheap gore and over-exposure of the creatures that strips them of mystique and terror value.

Scott made his name with the original. He'll take this in an unexpected direction; don't expext an explosive shoot-em-up, but do hope for atmospheric, spine-chilling effects and an altogether gentler approach. There are two prequels slated so 5 will possibly end with a cliff-hanger or at least unfisnihed business to be pursued.

Re: Sigourney, I think most of us Alien freaks have a 'thing' for her, but let's be realistic. Whilst she's still gorgeous she's had her time with this franchise (and what a time it was). Alien 4 was possibly a step too far. Scott has a chance to unearth new talent - I'll be very happy if he steers clear of big names (surely no place for Russell Crowe) and brings us young, fit, explosive screen talent.

BTW, I too had a great original Alien experience. Bunked off work to see it on opening day (first showing). I emerged blinking into the daylight, stunned. 10 minutes later I queued up, paid again and sat through it a second time. I've been in love with Scott, Weaver, Giger et al ever since.

 

[Rodders]

Nice post Sweder and welcome to the Chrons.

 

[Heebie]

surely no place for Russell Crowe

We can only hope

 

[CyBeR]

A new Alien film? If this is legit, I will voluntarily eat my shorts. I've been waiting for something grand to come from this series for ever now. I loved the first 2, liked the third but pretty much hated the 4th.

 

[Interference]

Nice and insightful summary, Sweder. Welcome

 

[Captain Campion]

The original alien is one of my all-time favorites. What a great flick. Aliens was the exception to the rule that sequels are never even close the the original. Alien 3 then ruined not only the third movie, but made the second pointless. The fourth was, well, interesting and had some neat parts but generally blah. The AVP movies, to me, seem more like non-cannon fanfiction than actual alien movies.

I've enjoyed just about every Ridley Scott movie I've ever seen, so if he is coming back to the franchise then I have high hopes.

On a side bar, I had a comic book of the first Alien movie; an actual R rated comic book that contained the deleted scenes from the movie. That was back in '79, though, and I have no clue where it ever went.

In Space, No One Can Hear You Scream.

As ideas for a fifth movie, I have no clue. But I always wanted to see an Alien get loose on Piccard's Enterprise. I can already see the chest-burster coming out of Wesley Crusher...

 

[J Riff]

The first two flix were so good- so successful- that they knew they had a guaranteed audience, so as usual they cheaped out and handed it to people who had no idea what it was about.
The comic series was good. The insane General who builds an army of Aliens to use against the Aliens who have over-run the Earth. But No.
Watched the 1st AVP on TV last night, only the last half..and twasnt as bad as I remembered.

 

[rdenning]

Yes I think that is a good assessment of the franchise thus far.
Alien and Aliens were so good (IMHO) that they maybe should have stopped there. 3 and 4 were so-so. Had their moments but very much felt like flogging a dead horse.

Maybe 5 will save the series of movies. Have to see wont we.

 

[Tragedy]

I think it is going to be near impossible to make anything even remotely good as the first two without stealing settings/ideas.

 

[bedlamite]

As we're edging closer to release, and have even got a name: Prometheus, I thought I'd paste this info up:

Archaeological digs in Africa reveal alien artifacts that humans were genetically engineered by a advanced alien race (space jockeys). These "Alien Gods" also terraformed Earth in order to make it habitable for their human creations. Amongst finds are coordinates to the Alien God's home-world, to Paradise. Months later the Weyland Corp launch the spaceship Prometheus and his crew, into deep space to make first contact. Thanks to faster than light travel a few years later the Prometheus enters the Zeta Riticuli star system. Humans are greeted by their makers, then transported further into space to a scary yet fascinating world. The Alien Gods are proud of their "children", their first creation to reach such levels of intelligence. As a reward they share bits of their astonishing bio-based technologies with the humans. But for one crew member of the Prometheus it's not enough. In a treacherous act he steals the "bio-source code" to Terraforming, a technology at the origin of all Gods' power, that could make humans equal to the gods. The Alien Gods may be scientists but are also ruthless conquerors, destroyers of worlds who will not accept humans as equals. They unleash on the escaping human crew their favorite bio-weapon, a creature used to "clean up" worlds before colonization. But something goes wrong in the process and humans manage to turn the bio-weapon against their makers. Giving birth to a smarter, nastier, bigger breed of gut eating creatures. Creatures that will be the demise of Paradise. What's left of the Prometheus crew manages to escape the doomed planet. On their trail a survivor Alien God in very familiar ship with one ultimate mission. Bring the wrath of the Gods to Earth.

Top of the cast list: Michael Fassbender, Charlize Theron, Idris Elba

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