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This is a SF/F story that surrounds peace. Athe point below, the main character has finished fighting a war with a fearful creature. She uses song to ward it off. She blanked out after and has woken up:

“Wake up! It’s time to celebrate!” It was Jamie and he was speaking directly to her, not in her thoughts. “You are done! The best is yet to come!”
Her eyes flickered several times before she realized she was lying on her back in a warm cove. As she raised her eyelids wider, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid. When she was awake enough, she discovered that Jamie wasn’t the only one standing around her. There were about three other people or beings hovering over the bed.
Father Superior was the head of the Soiloid Cebra was trained in. Although his formal title symbolized superiority and power, he was really an Ascended Master who always nurtured and cared about everyone who was trained and worked in the Soiloid. His wisdom was well known to all ASMers and other people associated with Amouretora.
Next to Father, as he was widely known, stood Samessiro, the Angel. He was the keeper and Guardian of the most precious Tool in Amouretoa, one that the possessor must treat as a friend. Until the next Lord or Lady was called forth, it was Samessiro’s job to keep the Tool safe from people who took Vardaise’s side. Samessiro also hid the Tool from any ASMer because the Tool was meant to be found, not given. In this cove, Samessiro looked like a solid all muscles and blood, but only ASMers could really see him on the physical plain. He was more like a ghost to the Ignorant.
They go somewhere and after the buniss and after learning who the woman is, the main character inquires about Samessiro:

“Jamie! Will you ever stop worrying so much? Who are you?” Cebra’s eyes had wandered to Samessiro who seemed to be uncomfortable in the room.
Before Samessiro could say anything, Father spoke up, “Cebra Alorindo, let’s just say he is an invisible observer. You may come across him at later points in your life, but for now, he will remain anonymous. Now we must get moving, the whole Soiloid is waiting in the Center.”
Is it important to explain why Samessiro s there and why he should be anonymous to Cebra? If so, where should it go?

This is a draft so I will be looking at spelling and punc. errors.

Thanks!
 
Hey Asmer, longtime.

Erm, would it be insulting to ask what age group this is aimed at? Because the writing style comes over to me as though someone is reading a story out loud to children. The way you give us supplementary info about every character eg:

Father Superior was the head of the Soiloid Cebra was trained in. Although his formal title symbolized superiority and power, he was really an Ascended Master who always nurtured and cared about everyone who was trained and worked in the Soiloid. His wisdom was well known to all ASMers and other people associated with Amouretora.

I wonder why the narrator feels it necessary to give this much information in a disembodied way. I found it a tad distracting, rather than adding to the story, and then your next line (in the next pragraph) is this: Next to Father, as he was widely known, stood Samessiro, the Angel.

'As he was widely known'? Well, there were only two choices, so I guess he wouldn't be widely known as 'superior'. Widely known? I can just see a reader leaning forward, book in hand, to emphasise this point to a bunch of children sitting on the ground listening. Is this what you intended? Or is it just me? But to go back to the beginning:

“Wake up! It’s time to celebrate!” It was Jamie and he was speaking directly to her, not in her thoughts. “You are done! The best is yet to come!”
Her eyes flickered several times before she realized she was lying on her back in a warm cove. As she raised her eyelids wider, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid. When she was awake enough, she discovered that Jamie wasn’t the only one standing around her. There were about three other people or beings hovering over the bed.

I think it's the succession of exclamation marks that make his speech so unrealistic. Try reading it aloud and you'll see what I mean. She's just finished fighting a war with a fearful creature and he says: "You are done!" What does this mean? Then he adds a cliche "The best is yet to come!" Is he an excited 6 year old? Why are there descriptions of the others, but not Jamie? Presumably we've met him before?

Now if she's lying in a warm cove, how can she be in the Medi Room? Isn't a cove a small circular inlet on a beach? I'm very confused. And surely she raises her eyelids higher to open her eyes? And then 'there were ABOUT three other people OR BEINGS hovering over the bed'. I don't understand why you chose to be so imprecise, and then tell us 'people or beings' it makes very little sense.

Is this a first draft, that you have dashed down without editing at all? Because when I compare it to your other writing, it certainly seems like it. You are capable of so much better, I'm quite shocked at this. It may sound harsh, but because I have seen evidence previously of your ability, I feel I should point it out: there's far too much nonsensical prose in this piece. It's a SF/F story that surrounds peace. WHAT???

He was the keeper and Guardian of the most precious Tool in Amouretoa, one that the possessor must treat as a friend. Until the next Lord or Lady was called forth, it was Samessiro’s job to keep the Tool safe from people who took Vardaise’s side. Samessiro also hid the Tool from any ASMer because the Tool was meant to be found, not given. In this cove, Samessiro looked like a solid all muscles and blood, but only ASMers could really see him on the physical plain. He was more like a ghost to the Ignorant.

Sorry, but if he's keeper and guardian, then he's the possessor, isn't he? So, who must treat what as a friend? Who the heck is Vardaise? If he hides the tool from any asmer and it's supposed to be kept safe from bad guys, but it's meant to be found, not given, is there anybody in this world who fits that bill? What bill? I'm completely confused, I have no idea what is going on... Solid is muscles and blood? 'He was more like a ghost to the ignorant.' Sorry Asmer, that is just lazy, lazy writing, just so unlike you.

They go somewhere and after the buniss and after learning who the woman is, the main character inquires about Samessiro:

After the buniss????? What woman??? Who is the main character??
“Jamie! Will you ever stop worrying so much? Who are you?” Cebra’s eyes had wandered to Samessiro who seemed to be uncomfortable in the room.
Before Samessiro could say anything, Father spoke up, “Cebra Alorindo, let’s just say he is an invisible observer. You may come across him at later points in your life, but for now, he will remain anonymous. Now we must get moving, the whole Soiloid is waiting in the Center.”

You've just told us Asmers can see him, so why should father say 'let's just say he's an invisible observer'??

Is it important to explain why Samessiro s there and why he should be anonymous to Cebra? If so, where should it go?

I cannot answer this question, because I cannot see the relevance in the piece you pasted up. Besides, Father has answered your question in what he says and the only other person who could tell us is the narrator.

Sorry, Asmer, but this really is a terribly confusing piece of writing, and I'm at a loss to understand why, when you have shown yourself capable of so much better. I wish I could say that there are merits to it, but as it stands I can't see any. I hate being so harsh, but there's no point in pretending otherwise. I feel it needs a complete re-write, then for you to edit it, and get it the best you can, and then bring it back here. I feel that the fact that there have been so many reads of it, but no comments, speaks for itself. Good luck with the changes, if you feel they're necessary.​
 
Thanks, it is truely very helpful. I just got back to the story a couple days ago and I guess I didn't look at it carefully. I really appreciate your help and the silence. This is supposed to be a teenager-adult read not a children's, I was just trying to fast forward.
 
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“Wake up! It’s time to celebrate!” It was Jamie and he was speaking directly to her, not in her thoughts. “The Battle is over, your training is complete. Your life is just beginning.”



Her eyes flickered several times before she realized she was lying on her back in a warm mushy bed. As she became more awake, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid. She also noticed that besides Jamie and Father Superior, who were standing close to her, there were two other Spirits in the rear of the bed that she did not recognize.



“What happened? What are you all doing here? Who is she? Who is he?” Cebra was now upright, swinging her legs off the bed. “Have I been Revived?” Why are you so quiet? Can’t you see, I don’t know what’s going on? This was sent to Jamie through his thoughts and it shook him.



“Perhaps the Replay Room is the best place to start. Dear, you have been Revived, but I don’t think it is wise to walk, you are still recovering. Allow Jamie to carry you to the Replay Room.” Father’s deep tone reminded Cebra of his authority and wisdom.



In the Replay Room, Cebra was carefully put into a large chair that had arm rests and was silvery all over, but felt very comfortable. The light was extinguished in the room and a big screen played a movie that retold the battle Cebra had just fought. She watched as she began the battle with one of her best songs, “To My Heart Cry,” at the same time Vardaise’s army began to overtake the school and how many ASMers were present to protect the building. She also noticed that Jamie had been five feet away and Father was watching behind Jamie and sometimes helping the others. Behind them stood Medinds at the ready in case there were injuries of which there were many. What stood out was that Cebra was at the forefront of the Army of Compassion, doing most of the work. At the near end of the battle, she noticed that her throat was bleeding and that her forehead was hot with sweat. The movie continued with Cebra kissing Vardaise which transformed him into a puddle. Following the Kiss, a powerful Tool that is only used when an ASMer is desperate, she fell immediately to the ground and passed out. Jamie picked her up and carried her into the Soiloid. He first stopped at the Revival Room to re-energize her and then at Medi to clean her wounds. Then the screen went blank and the lights in the Replay Room relit.



“I thought you were dead, Cebra! But Coram said it was just extreme exhaustion, pointing out that you had used all your willpower to defeat Vardaise. You were so brave! I died trying to get him, but he was too powerful.” Jamie hugged her.



“James, you know there’s more to happen, this is just the beginning. Cebra, you asked who this woman here is, Sraydon, please bring up Amblony’s movie.” Father gently patted Cebra on the shoulder. There were two different rooms where trainees learned through movies. The room the group was in was focused on personal experience, sometimes nicknamed Me Room, where ASMers of all levels came to remember what happened to them. A very similar room, known as the Situations and Stories Room was the usual place where trainees went to learn about the history of Amouretora which included important people, events and so on. Usually, one had to go to the Situations Room to understand Amblony’s story, but Amblony had already given permission to save Cebra walking all the way to the Trainee’s Quarters to use the Stories Room.



The film began with Amblony at age ten, a tall kid with long amber curls. Her eyes were light brown and a breeze blew her loose hair in her face as she walked with her head down. When she heard Jamie speak, she looked up in confusion meeting Jamie out of nowhere. Her story was no different than Cebra’s. The only difference was the age at which she entered training. Also, Amblony completed her training time at a later age than Cebra, but in doing so, she died at the hands of Vardaise. Amblony’s power source was giving the kindest speech. Her powerful words often wiped out the fearful. To catch her, Vardaise had thrown a knife that struck her square in the throat.



“So why didn’t you come work at the Soiloid?” This question was directed at Jamie who repeated it to Amblony who then gave him the answer to repeat to Cebra.



“I had enough of serving. I would be happy to have lived a full life, but I made it clear that if I died, I would return to Sirius.“ Cebra nodded. She knew there was something else to discuss and she didn’t want to waste time between translations. Depending on a person’s sexual orientation, an ASMer was only allowed to talk to his or Advisor based on the theory. If one was heterosexual, the trainee was only allowed to speak to the opposite gender. If he or she was homosexual, he or she was only allowed to speak to an Advisor of the same gender. The most flexible communication fell in the bisexual catergory who were allowed to choose which gender they wanted as an Advisor. This was supposed to help trainees overcome romantic dreams, such as falling in love with the Advisor so that they could learn to control their emotions. So Cebra, as a heterosexual, was only allowed to speak to men, although she often talked as if she was conversing directly to other women.


Father came around the chair to face Cebra. “Daughter of Courage, it is now time for the ceremonies. You have completed your training.”



“But Father, isn’t it too soon? I mean wasn’t the School Battle only another Trainee mission?”



“I wanted it to be that way Cebra, but you have proved far too powerful. I admit it, I am not willing to let you go, but I must.” Jamie spoke behind her. “I’m worried about you.”



“Jamie! Will you ever stop worrying so much? Who are you?” Cebra had wandered to the male Spirit who seemed to be uncomfortable in the room.



Before the Spirit could say anything, Father spoke up, “Cebra Alorindo, let’s just say he is an observer. You may come across him at later points in your life, but for now, he will remain anonymous. Now we must get moving, the whole Soiloid is waiting in the Center.”



Samessiro, the Spirit Cebra had noticed, was the Guardian of the most precious Tool in Amouretoa, one that the possessor must treat as a friend. Until the next Lord or Lady was called forth, it was Samessiro’s job to keep the Tool safe from people who took Vardaise’s side. Samessiro also hid the Tool from any ASMer because the Tool was meant to be found, not given.
 
Hey Asmer, short time!

This is much better, it's written by you - not sure who wrote the first bit, someone who hijacked your thread... Joking aside, this makes sense, I can follow what's going on and you stick to one POV so much better. Now I just have little nitpicks viz:

The movie continued with Cebra kissing Vardaise which transformed him into a puddle.

Yeah, they're battling, and he's killed a lot of people before, and you're cheating us out of a really good bit of tension/action! As she watched, she saw herself reach out and grip Verdaise. She pulled him to her and kissed him passionately. The magic of the Kiss, the ultimate weapon of the Asmers, worked immediately and Verdaise melted away in her hands. A second later she fell to the ground, unconscious, and she saw Jamie lunging for her, lifting her up and carrying her away from the battle.

Summat like that? I know that you're trying to get through the movie quickly, because the relevant action is in the room and you want to bring in the samessiro bit, but it lacks a little in drama, and you've not brought out the stress enough.

Now I have only one confusion... is the Kiss the tool that the semi-invisible guy has? Because you have now mentioned two tools:
Following the Kiss, a powerful Tool that is only used when an ASMer is desperate,

Samessiro, the Spirit Cebra had noticed, was the Guardian of the most precious Tool in Amouretoa,

If not, then p'raps the Kiss could be called a powerful weapon, so as not to confuse them?

And that last paragraph will need work again...

ooh, just saw this last nitpick: Cebra had wandered to the male Spirit who seemed to be uncomfortable in the room.
 
Please use a readable sized font. I'm not even going to bother straining my eyes to read that tiny font, and neither will the majority of our members.

Huh? It's the same sized font (Verdana 2) everyone else posts in. You're not using one of those new three-inch screen laptops? ;)
 
Not on my screen HairBrain -The gaps are but not the text.

I confess I gave it a miss when I saw it.

It is now though:)


Quoting Asmer20 :-

“Wake up! It’s time to celebrate!” It was Jamie and he was speaking directly to her, not in her thoughts. “The Battle is over, your training is complete. Your life is just beginning.”​

Her eyes flickered several times before she realized she was lying on her back in a warm mushy bed. As she became more awake, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid. She also noticed that besides Jamie and Father Superior, who were standing close to her, there were two other Spirits in the rear of the bed that she did not recognize.​

“What happened? What are you all doing here? Who is she? Who is he?” Cebra was now upright, swinging her legs off the bed. “Have I been Revived?” Why are you so quiet? Can’t you see, I don’t know what’s going on? This was sent to Jamie through his thoughts and it shook him.​

“Perhaps the Replay Room is the best place to start. Dear, you have been Revived, but I don’t think it is wise to walk, you are still recovering. Allow Jamie to carry you to the Replay Room.” Father’s deep tone reminded Cebra of his authority and wisdom.​

In the Replay Room, Cebra was carefully put into a large chair that had arm rests and was silvery all over, but felt very comfortable. The light was extinguished in the room and a big screen played a movie that retold the battle Cebra had just fought. She watched as she began the battle with one of her best songs, “To My Heart Cry,” at the same time Vardaise’s army began to overtake the school and how many ASMers were present to protect the building. She also noticed that Jamie had been five feet away and Father was watching behind Jamie and sometimes helping the others. Behind them stood Medinds at the ready in case there were injuries of which there were many. What stood out was that Cebra was at the forefront of the Army of Compassion, doing most of the work. At the near end of the battle, she noticed that her throat was bleeding and that her forehead was hot with sweat. The movie continued with Cebra kissing Vardaise which transformed him into a puddle. Following the Kiss, a powerful Tool that is only used when an ASMer is desperate, she fell immediately to the ground and passed out. Jamie picked her up and carried her into the Soiloid. He first stopped at the Revival Room to re-energize her and then at Medi to clean her wounds. Then the screen went blank and the lights in the Replay Room relit.​

“I thought you were dead, Cebra! But Coram said it was just extreme exhaustion, pointing out that you had used all your willpower to defeat Vardaise. You were so brave! I died trying to get him, but he was too powerful.” Jamie hugged her.

“James, you know there’s more to happen, this is just the beginning. Cebra, you asked who this woman here is, Sraydon, please bring up Amblony’s movie.” Father gently patted Cebra on the shoulder. There were two different rooms where trainees learned through movies. The room the group was in was focused on personal experience, sometimes nicknamed Me Room, where ASMers of all levels came to remember what happened to them. A very similar room, known as the Situations and Stories Room was the usual place where trainees went to learn about the history of Amouretora which included important people, events and so on. Usually, one had to go to the Situations Room to understand Amblony’s story, but Amblony had already given permission to save Cebra walking all the way to the Trainee’s Quarters to use the Stories Room.​

The film began with Amblony at age ten, a tall kid with long amber curls. Her eyes were light brown and a breeze blew her loose hair in her face as she walked with her head down. When she heard Jamie speak, she looked up in confusion meeting Jamie out of nowhere. Her story was no different than Cebra’s. The only difference was the age at which she entered training. Also, Amblony completed her training time at a later age than Cebra, but in doing so, she died at the hands of Vardaise. Amblony’s power source was giving the kindest speech. Her powerful words often wiped out the fearful. To catch her, Vardaise had thrown a knife that struck her square in the throat.​

“So why didn’t you come work at the Soiloid?” This question was directed at Jamie who repeated it to Amblony who then gave him the answer to repeat to Cebra.​

“I had enough of serving. I would be happy to have lived a full life, but I made it clear that if I died, I would return to Sirius.“ Cebra nodded. She knew there was something else to discuss and she didn’t want to waste time between translations. Depending on a person’s sexual orientation, an ASMer was only allowed to talk to his or Advisor based on the theory. If one was heterosexual, the trainee was only allowed to speak to the opposite gender. If he or she was homosexual, he or she was only allowed to speak to an Advisor of the same gender. The most flexible communication fell in the bisexual catergory who were allowed to choose which gender they wanted as an Advisor. This was supposed to help trainees overcome romantic dreams, such as falling in love with the Advisor so that they could learn to control their emotions. So Cebra, as a heterosexual, was only allowed to speak to men, although she often talked as if she was conversing directly to other women.

Father came around the chair to face Cebra. “Daughter of Courage, it is now time for the ceremonies. You have completed your training.”

“But Father, isn’t it too soon? I mean wasn’t the School Battle only another Trainee mission?”

“I wanted it to be that way Cebra, but you have proved far too powerful. I admit it, I am not willing to let you go, but I must.” Jamie spoke behind her. “I’m worried about you.”

“Jamie! Will you ever stop worrying so much? Who are you?” Cebra had wandered to the male Spirit who seemed to be uncomfortable in the room.​

Before the Spirit could say anything, Father spoke up, “Cebra Alorindo, let’s just say he is an observer. You may come across him at later points in your life, but for now, he will remain anonymous. Now we must get moving, the whole Soiloid is waiting in the Center.”​

Samessiro, the Spirit Cebra had noticed, was the Guardian of the most precious Tool in Amouretoa, one that the possessor must treat as a friend. Until the next Lord or Lady was called forth, it was Samessiro’s job to keep the Tool safe from people who took Vardaise’s side. Samessiro also hid the Tool from any ASMer because the Tool was meant to be found, not given.

End Quoting Asmer20​

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Huh? It's the same sized font (Verdana 2) everyone else posts in. You're not using one of those new three-inch screen laptops? ;)

Odd, it looks tiny tiny tiny on my screen! Like Veranda 1 or 1/2!

Thanks TEIN for doing that!
 
What I would say is that if Asmer could copy the text into a post box and then we can can continue as though we were starting again that would help. As it is it will look like my text if anyone replies to what I've done.

In the meantime ::

Didn't like put in a chair - placed seems better.

and was silvery all over - sounds slightly youngish.

The rest of that paragraph is a little wearing in that it is solid text and confusing - to my mind anyway.

Also Father Superior seems to get shortened to Father which I assume isn't meant to be. Give him a name or use the title all the time.

I have to say I read it a few times and I'm still unsure as to what is supposed to be going on.

Hope I helped.

TEiN
 
“Wake up! It’s time to celebrate!” It was Jamie and he was speaking directly to her, not in her thoughts. “The Battle is over, your training is complete. Your life is just beginning.”

Her eyes flickered several times before she realized she was lying on her back in a warm mushy bed. As she became more awake, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid. She also noticed that besides Jamie and Father Superior, who were standing close to her, there were two other Spirits in the rear of the bed that she did not recognize.​

“What happened? What are you all doing here? Who is she? Who is he?” Cebra was now upright, swinging her legs off the bed. “Have I been Revived?” Why are you so quiet? Can’t you see, I don’t know what’s going on? This was sent to Jamie through his thoughts and it shook him.​

“Perhaps the Replay Room is the best place to start. Dear, you have been Revived, but I don’t think it is wise to walk, you are still recovering. Allow Jamie to carry you to the Replay Room.” Father’s deep tone reminded Cebra of his authority and wisdom.​


I might be asking too much, but I cannot stay quiet on this case. Well, I can, but I don't think it's fair for you. And since my headache lifted, I can spare sometime on commenting.

You start with a good hook, but when you go into the narrative, you forget that you should be following this through the readers mind.

"Wake up, it's time to celebrate!"
That's is a good line on it's own. And you could move to next line.

"Wake up, it's time to celebrate!"

Jamie? she thought but it didn't sound as he was in her dreams.
Now the reader knows what's going on. We are on plate and in your shoes I would add the a bit more narrative.

"Wake up, it's time to celebrate!"

Jamie? she thought but it didn't sound as he was in her dreams. She flickered her eyes until she found herself lying on on her back in a warm mushy bed. As she became more awake, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid.
That is enough, IMHO. In there you have established who has spoken, what the POV character was doing and where they were.

Now look what I do here and think does it add up to the tension?

"Wake up, it's time to celebrate!"

Jamie? she thought but it didn't sound as he was in her dreams. She flickered her eyes until she found herself lying on on her back in a warm mushy bed. As she became more awake, she recognized the Medi Room in her training Soiloid.

"What happened?" she asked from grinning Jamie standing next Father Superior. "Did we win... is that what we are celebrating?" Then she noticed two stern looking people at the background. They didn't look at familiar.

She looked in Jamie's eyes and thought, Why aren't you saying anything? Who are these people?

But there was no answer, just silence that Father Superior broke by saying, "Prehaps it's better we start from the Replay Room." Jamie nodded and lifted her in his strong arms. He still didn't say anything, not even telepathically, just smiled at her in a way that convinced her. The war was over.

Or was it just the training?

This might not be your style, but I have tried to show you here an example on how to build tension by hiding things. I just dripped in the information as I went forward.

So if you want, you could edit rest of the story in same manner.


All right I think that is my good thing done for today and I can go to chill now.
 
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