star wars vs LOTR

[Eradius Lore]

this has bugged me for a while now, can you say that the bum numbing trilogy that is lord of the rings is better than star wars, star wars changed the world of films, special effects of the time before star wars is not even worth mentioning about but after sw most films use industrial light and magic (star wars company). what did LOTR bring us? 47 extra disks and a bum transplant.

 

[Leto]

Think the other way, without LOTR novels, no Star wars.
Are you paid by Lucas art or is there something else than Star wars which attracted you here ?

 

[red_temple]

When I was 10 years old, the first Star Wars movie was released. I proceeded to see it nearly every week for over a year (mom was always great about dropping me off at the mall on Saturdays). Star Wars defined my movie life from that point onward. It was the movie I measured all others against.

But then George Lucas stopped caring about the fans, the story and, most importantly, *directing*. He gave us the dual abominations known as "The Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones." He tinkered and changed that which was perfect - the original Star Wars. Greedo shoots first? Gimme a break. And lets face it, Return of the Jedi kinda sucked, too (Ewoks, anyone?).

For me, these insults forever devauled something that I loved (admittedly, still love, but with a heavy heart). For these reasons, I gave my vote to LOTR. And no, it was not bum numbing for me - not by a longshot. I wish the movies would have been longer - 5 or 6 hours each would have been nice. Because as much as I *saw* and lived Star Wars in my youth, I *read* and lived LOTR. It was nice to be able to see it, and see it done well by a director in his prime, who is willing to put 100% into *every* facet of movie-making (not just the special effects).

And yes, Star Wars was revolutionary as a movie. So was LOTR, as both book and movie. Each one paves the way for the next.

 

[Frey Slayer]

I agree with Red Temple, he pretty much said it all.
Jackson made LOTR for the fans
Lucas made E1-3 for himself.
This makes all the difference in the world.

C3PO in every movie???? Why? He should have just re-used the French brownies from Willow, that would have made more sense AND been more entertaining.

 

[MoonLover]

Two words:

JarJar Binks! Dear George lost me after that one.

Karen

 

[ravenus]

Both highly overrated by their respective fanboys. They're reasonably fun movies with some amazing technical leaps but when you have so much iconization, it just annoys me no end.

Yoda sucks as does Gandalf. There now, happy? :yawn:

 

[Lacedaemonian]

The Star Wars films are very poor. Take away the nostalgia and you are left with a lot of empty space. Yoda is a retarded alien who just so happens to be hard as nails. Gandalf is the greatest wizard character of any work of fiction.

 

[Winters_Sorrow]

Gandalf is the greatest wizard character of any work of fiction.

nah - Merlin could open up a can of whoop-ass on him

 

[Lacedaemonian]

Merlin with all his mischief? He was killed/enslaved by a woman. You would not catch Gandalf coming a cropper against such a lowly adversary. Gandalf would laugh at Nimue.

 

[Eradius Lore]

you are all CRAZY!


can't you see that star wars has so much more to offer than lord of the rings.
lord of the rings are a couple of books, star wars are like 50 or so books

star wars has the force, big starships and a whole universe for you to dream in.
lotr has golum. enough said

 

[Lacedaemonian]

Have you read the Star Wars books? Have you read?

 

[Leto]

you are all CRAZY!


can't you see that star wars has so much more to offer than lord of the rings.
lord of the rings are a couple of books, star wars are like 50 or so books

star wars has the force, big starships and a whole universe for you to dream in.
lotr has golum. enough said

And as Ravenus said, both have fanboys of the worst specie.

And frankly, exept the movie sequencing in trilogy, comparing Star Wars to LOTR is as dumb as comparing pears to whales.

 

[Lacedaemonian]

I prefer pears as opposed to whales Leto. Whales are big and messy.

 

[Eradius Lore]

lord of the rings is one of the ******* reads ever an frankly i dont give a toss what anyone says, all my mates say the film board the socks off them, and the books more so.

of course these are people who don't think there wizards, and actually have a life and sence to see whats rubbish and wats not

 

[Lacedaemonian]

Go easy on the language mate. Good to see that your friends have such well formed opinions and such deep and wonderful imaginations.

I don't think that I am wizard, I merely fantasize about being a Spartan Warrior.

 

[Leto]

I prefer pears as opposed to whales Leto. Whales are big and messy.

If one day we agree, I promise to offer you a beer.

Although your current avatar comes from one of my favorite Disney.

 

[Lacedaemonian]

My favourite Disney movie too, although Robin Hood comes pretty close. Actually there are so many great disney movies.

 

[Eradius Lore]

Go easy on the language mate. Good to see that your friends have such well formed opinions and such deep and wonderful imaginations.

I don't think that I am wizard, I merely fantasize about being a Spartan Warrior.

i opologise i wish only to defend that which i think is great

 

[Tsujigiri]

It is indeed refreshing to come across a person of such intellectual calibre and linguistic refinement who is capable of presenting an argument in such an eloquent and persuavive manner.
I delight in reading threads started by such people, and there are so many of them on this board.

Then there are threads like this one.

I would post something here about Star Wars ripping most of its concepts and ideas from a mixture of western fantasy (esp LOTR) and Eastern philosophy...but anyone with half a brain already knows that.

Also, Lacey.....be honest..it's the Spartan women you fantasise about dude

 

[Lacedaemonian]

No problem mate. Do you only like Star Wars, or are there other movies/books which you also obsess about?