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... I have a question.

I can't find my copies of the Rigante series and wanted to research a character and some scenes from one of these books. However, I cannot for the life of me remember what the character was called and which book he featured in.

He is the uncle (?) of the main character. He is considered a typical clan man. I think he is a giant of a man. His death is very martyrish and it ignites the clans to rise up. I think he rescues his lover from an execution which is basically suicidal. I remember crying when reading this.

All help will be gratefully received. :)
 
Wow! You are awesome mate. Didn't think I would ever forget his name but I did. I could never ask you to spare me even more time.
 
Jaim Grymauch is impossible to forget even years later, he is one of the most loved characters of all Gemmell works.

As you can see in my nick i have a huge soft spot for Rigante series :)
 
This series is a bitch to find in hardcover and in really good condition for a reasonable price. I don't want to pay some of the ridiculous prices I've seen this go for online.
 
Gemmell ,may he rest in peace in the hall of heroes, had true skill on writing characters that were allways flawed but truly heroic, and his death scenes? oh, they were amazing.

Yeah he was a master of writing flawed heroes and beliavable supporting characters.

All these 1000 page epics of fantasy couldnt make me feel like i did for Jaim and other DG characters. His death scenes are poetic,one of few to touch me emotionally.
 
I was talking to a friend (a former user of this forum back in the day) on msn the other day and we both agreed that Gemmell was the fantasy author who influenced us the most. We're both quite snobby and dismissive too. Nobody created characters like David did, and I agree with his backing cast being very strong. Though he quite often gave these backing characters lead parts in later books.

I have started writing again and I try and use a similar (nowhere near as good) style to Cormac McCarthy but I always create (nowhere near as good) Gemmell-esque anti heroes.
 
I am also writing, with kinda the same style and quality as DG I hope.

Have you all read what inspierd his most famous characters? Druss, Bison, Beltzer, Rumathain, Jaim and the rest.

(this is not mine, nor did I write it)

Ever wondered where an author like David Gemmell gets his ideas from?This is an insight into his source of inspiration...

'There was this boy. He lived in fear. Not the tiny fears of manhood, but the awesomely powerful, living, breathing fear that only children can experience. He was different, this boy, from the other boys who lived in this bomb damaged London Street some few years after World War Two. He had no father.


Some of the other children had no father, but their lack was honorable. Dad died in the war, you know. He was a hero. This boy's lack was the subject of sly whispers from the adults, and open jeering from his peers. This boy's mother was - the boy heard so many times - a whore.

Happily the boy was only six, and had no real understanding of what the word meant. Anyway the word was less hurtful than the blows that would follow it. Most of the blows came from other children, but sometimes adults too would weigh in.
It was all baffling to the child. What he knew was that, before venturing out into the narrow streets and alleys, he had to peer from the windows of the small apartment to see if there were other children about. Only he didn't think of them as children. They were enemies, and he was frightened. Fear was the ever present companion. Fear was grafted to him. The journey to school was fraught with peril. The dark of the night brought fearful dreams.

His mother read him stories about heroes, and tried to encourage him to stand up for himself. But stories were just words, and words could not stop the punches, the pinches and the slaps.

The boy never dreamed of heroes. Not until he met one.
It was a bright, cold morning and he was sitting on a wall. One of the boys who made his life miserable ran up, shouting and gesticulating. The boy - more in panic than courage - finally struck out, punching his enemy in the face. The other child ran off screaming. His father came running from the house. 'You little *******!' he shouted.
The boy took off as fast as he could, but no six year old can outrun a grown man. Within moments he grabbed the boy by the collar, swinging him from his feet.
Just then a huge shadow fell over the pair. The man - who had looked so threatening moments before - now looked small and insignificant against the looming newcomer. This colossus reached out and took hold of the man by the shirt, pushing him up against a wall.

In a low voice, chilling for its lack of passion, he asked. 'Do you know who I am?'
The man was trembling. Even the boy could feel the dreadful fear emanating from him.

'C.c.course I know who you are, Bill. Course I do.'

'Did you know I was walking out with this boy's mother?'

'Jesus Christ... I swear I didn't, Bill. On my mother's life.'

'Now you do.'

The big man let the little man go. He slid part way down the wall, recovered and stumbled away. Then the giant leaned over the boy and held out a hand that seemed larger than a bunch of bananas. 'Better be getting home, son,' he said.
The world changed that day. Men like Bill do change the world. They are the havens, the safe harbours of childhood. They are the watch hounds who keep the wolves at bay. They have an instinctive understanding of the child that is denied to the wise.
Two years later, as my stepfather, he cured me of dreams of vampires coming to drink my blood. My mother had tried explaining to me they were just dreams. They weren't real. It didn't work. She took me to a child psychologist, who showed me pictures, told me stories, explained about the birth of myth and the way that fear created pictures in our night time thoughts. It was very interesting, but it did nothing for my nightmares.

One night I woke up screaming - to find Bill sitting by my bedside.

'There's a vampire, dad. Its trying to get me.'

'I know, son,' he said, softly. 'I saw it.'

'You saw it?'

'Yeah. I broke its bloody neck. I won't have no vampires in my house'

I never dreamt of vampires again.

Years later, when I wrote my first novel, I used Bill as the model for a character. His name was Druss the Legend. Bill re-appeared in many novels thereafter, in many guises.

Always flawed, but always heroic.

Three years ago, at the age of 82, Bill was mugged on the streets of London. Three muggers broke his jaw, his nose and two of his ribs. He still managed to 'chin' one of them and knock him to the ground. That was Bill.

Last April he died.

And I wrote Ravenheart, and gave Bill centre stage.
Jaim Grymauch, who strides the highlands like a giant, is my homage to Bill, and to all those world changing fathers who pass away without fanfare; who leave the world just a little brighter than it was.

Men who know how to deal with vampires.'
David Gemmell .
 
I am also writing, with kinda the same style and quality as DG I hope.

Have you all read what inspierd his most famous characters? Druss, Bison, Beltzer, Rumathain, Jaim and the rest.

(this is not mine, nor did I write it)

Ever wondered where an author like David Gemmell gets his ideas from?This is an insight into his source of inspiration...

'There was this boy. He lived in fear. Not the tiny fears of manhood, but the awesomely powerful, living, breathing fear that only children can experience. He was different, this boy, from the other boys who lived in this bomb damaged London Street some few years after World War Two. He had no father.


Some of the other children had no father, but their lack was honorable. Dad died in the war, you know. He was a hero. This boy's lack was the subject of sly whispers from the adults, and open jeering from his peers. This boy's mother was - the boy heard so many times - a whore.

Happily the boy was only six, and had no real understanding of what the word meant. Anyway the word was less hurtful than the blows that would follow it. Most of the blows came from other children, but sometimes adults too would weigh in.
It was all baffling to the child. What he knew was that, before venturing out into the narrow streets and alleys, he had to peer from the windows of the small apartment to see if there were other children about. Only he didn't think of them as children. They were enemies, and he was frightened. Fear was the ever present companion. Fear was grafted to him. The journey to school was fraught with peril. The dark of the night brought fearful dreams.

His mother read him stories about heroes, and tried to encourage him to stand up for himself. But stories were just words, and words could not stop the punches, the pinches and the slaps.

The boy never dreamed of heroes. Not until he met one.
It was a bright, cold morning and he was sitting on a wall. One of the boys who made his life miserable ran up, shouting and gesticulating. The boy - more in panic than courage - finally struck out, punching his enemy in the face. The other child ran off screaming. His father came running from the house. 'You little *******!' he shouted.
The boy took off as fast as he could, but no six year old can outrun a grown man. Within moments he grabbed the boy by the collar, swinging him from his feet.
Just then a huge shadow fell over the pair. The man - who had looked so threatening moments before - now looked small and insignificant against the looming newcomer. This colossus reached out and took hold of the man by the shirt, pushing him up against a wall.

In a low voice, chilling for its lack of passion, he asked. 'Do you know who I am?'
The man was trembling. Even the boy could feel the dreadful fear emanating from him.

'C.c.course I know who you are, Bill. Course I do.'

'Did you know I was walking out with this boy's mother?'

'Jesus Christ... I swear I didn't, Bill. On my mother's life.'

'Now you do.'

The big man let the little man go. He slid part way down the wall, recovered and stumbled away. Then the giant leaned over the boy and held out a hand that seemed larger than a bunch of bananas. 'Better be getting home, son,' he said.
The world changed that day. Men like Bill do change the world. They are the havens, the safe harbours of childhood. They are the watch hounds who keep the wolves at bay. They have an instinctive understanding of the child that is denied to the wise.
Two years later, as my stepfather, he cured me of dreams of vampires coming to drink my blood. My mother had tried explaining to me they were just dreams. They weren't real. It didn't work. She took me to a child psychologist, who showed me pictures, told me stories, explained about the birth of myth and the way that fear created pictures in our night time thoughts. It was very interesting, but it did nothing for my nightmares.

One night I woke up screaming - to find Bill sitting by my bedside.

'There's a vampire, dad. Its trying to get me.'

'I know, son,' he said, softly. 'I saw it.'

'You saw it?'

'Yeah. I broke its bloody neck. I won't have no vampires in my house'

I never dreamt of vampires again.

Years later, when I wrote my first novel, I used Bill as the model for a character. His name was Druss the Legend. Bill re-appeared in many novels thereafter, in many guises.

Always flawed, but always heroic.

Three years ago, at the age of 82, Bill was mugged on the streets of London. Three muggers broke his jaw, his nose and two of his ribs. He still managed to 'chin' one of them and knock him to the ground. That was Bill.

Last April he died.

And I wrote Ravenheart, and gave Bill centre stage.
Jaim Grymauch, who strides the highlands like a giant, is my homage to Bill, and to all those world changing fathers who pass away without fanfare; who leave the world just a little brighter than it was.

Men who know how to deal with vampires.'
David Gemmell .


Never read that before. Epic. DG to this day remains my favourite author. Currently reading Troy again. On SOT now and Achilles has just arrived. Superb stuff:)
 
being so obviously scots (rigante) and varlish (english) and me being scottish, i immediatly loved the rigante books, they are one's i constantly fall back on. not just for the main heroes, but for the other characters ruathain,vorna,riamfada,the morrigu,fiallach all the way through to stormrider and my all-time favourite rayster.
 
I read Sword in the Storm not that long ago, and quite enjoyed it. It's no Troy, but it's probably his second best start to a series. My biggest issue with Gemmell's book is that all his lead characters are almost completely interchangeable. There's absolutely no variation. They're all expert killers and tacticians.
 
I have them right here!

Your talking about Jaim Grymauch, From Ravenheart, and is mentioned in Stormrider.Do you want me to copy his death out in writing?

If I'm not mistaken Jaim is not his uncle but his father's best friend (his father being killed in the very beginning of the book), he was madly in love his his aunt Maeve.
Jaim's death scene was one of the best death scenes I have read.
 

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