4.02: Miracle Day - Rendition

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As the Torchwood team is reunited, Jack realizes he's the most vulnerable man on Earth. A flight to the United States turns into a desperate battle for survival.

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I'm coming late to these episodes as they air in America in what are the early hours of the morning here; I'm somewhat surprised that it appears that none of our American members are watching them (although it could be that they're simply too scared to make a new thread? :confused:)!

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A few things stand out in this episode - the factions, the realisation of what unending life means for the human race and public opinion towards Bill Pullman's character. I'll start with my last point and go backwards.

Not a huge amount can be said for Oswald Danes other than he appears to be a great manipulator. It's obvious from the series preview at the end of the UK episode one that he becomes the figurehead for a cult based around the death of death and he seems to be well on his way, turning public opinion with a series of appearances on talk shows. The big question is whether he's being used without him knowing it.

Unending life, it's been shown, has many problems. The obvious one is the population boom, which brings with it concerns over space and resources. This episode brought to light the fact that those who should have died from infections are, instead, incubating diseases, many of which will eventually become resistant to antibiotics. Whilst it's not real concern if you can't die, what would happen if life suddenly came back?

It was also discovered that, despite human life continuing regardless of the state of the body, aging hasn't stopped - what will happen in two hundred years? Five hundred? A thousand?

Finally, the factions! This is where it starts to get interesting. We have a faction, which we know has agents within the C.I.A., that wants to wipe out Torchwood and specifically Capt. Jack. So what is this faction? Are they aliens in human guise who have slowly weaved their way into society over decades? We know that Torchwood exists within the Doctor Who universe, so anything could happen! What we can be sure about is that they have power (a director within the C.I.A. gives the impression of being threatened by them, and they also wired $150,000 from China to two accounts) and technology (the director had a second mobile phone, which had a strange system installed. As these things go, it's probably of alien make).

Lot's of questions!

Oh, a fourth thing: where did Jack go after the CoE series? He avoided Gwen's question on the plane.
 
~Well I watched it.

I had trouble (surprise surprise) with the sudden all powerful average US CIA agent aspects.

Obviously a fillip to the US audiences. How desperate are the BBC to get the series liked in the US.

Why and on what planet would you get into a open land rover when there's a helicopter chasing you. Not to mention the small armoury in the cupboard they left behind. (Crap IMO)

Then there's the call to Gwen about a father that can't die being on deaths door - why? "Oh come quick your father isn't dead and isn't dying."

The nonsense on the plane with the phone. Why?

So as a first impression, not good. By far the worst part is the blatant sucking up to the US.

WE know Harkness can't be killed and goes on to be the Face of Bo so where is this going to end. In tears no doubt.
 
TEIN - I think your comments are about the first episode. The first episode was all about setting up the series, I think I liked the second was much better, and this series has great potential. I will certainly be watching next week now. The central idea itself has the legs to run much further than I had expected. Not sure about the CIA conspiracy angle which seems very "Jason Bourne."
 
Forgot to say - my son and I both said together, "the man in the toilet in 'Jurassic Park'!"

I couldn't remember seeing him in anything else, but according to IMDb he was one of the detectives interrogating Sharon Stone during her leg crossing in 'Basic Instinct' and also the frenetic mailman Newman, nemesis of the eponymous lead character in the classic TV series 'Seinfeld'.

The cast is interesting. I'm sure I read a post here that said "American actors in a British show that I actually know," but I can't find it to quote it. It is true though, Bill Pulman is going to be excellent from the trailers.
 
I'll start with: good punch from Gwen! Although I'm sure it would never work in a thousand years, trying to synthesise a cure to the poisoning using "real" science was a nice touch: arguably a nod to Unicorn & Wasp.

So: who's the red head? She's in red, she (herself) referred to the devil: is it as simple as that?
 
That was probably me, Dave:

...with it's increased budget (explosions, car chases, helicopters packing heat! Also, American actors I recognise, which is no easy feat) and larger team of writers, the Miracle Day series is better still, and that's after only one episode!


Although I had to check to confirm my suspicions that I'd seen [a much younger] Bill Pullman in Caspar, I too instantly recognised Wayne "man in the toilet in JP" Knight.

If anyone has watched Dollhouse, you should recognise the woman on the plane (Dichen Lachman, who played "Sierra". Though technically, she's from Nepal, not America).

Looking through the cast list, there's someone I recognise from a Warehouse 13 episode (he's yet to appear, though), we have a Ghostbuster, a Trekkie and a few other actors who have been going for decades.
 
If anyone's counting, I recognised Wayne Knight from "Space Jam" (okay, and J.P., where he gave programmers everywhere a very bad name)
 
...and someone else who was in Jurassic Park (as the man whose actions allowed all the gates to open, releasing the animals).
 
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If anyone is interested, the English and American episodes are, like last week, identical; no content gained, no content missed.
 
Just as a matter of record, Wayne Knight was the computer programmer who was killed by the dinosaur that spit things in his eyes. The man in the toilet was Martin Ferrero (who looks enough like Jonathan Price to make me think it was he until I looked it up). Both character were sniveling cowards in the movie. What I am curious about is whether this series is racier than the previous ones. On this side of the world we are seeing it on a premium cable channel (STARZ) as opposed to BBCAmerica so we are seeing it uncut. BBCAmerica is obviously toned done from time to time because it is a basic cable channel. If there were sex scenes in previous series we would not have seen them intact.
 
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My apologies for mixing them up then.

As for the sexual content, in the first two episodes it has been limited to some mild innuendo. That suits me as, certainly in the Second Season of Torchwood, I thought both the alien sex and the Jack-Ianto relationship drowned out everything else. On the other hand, if aliens are involved in this latest threat to mankind, we haven't seen them yet, and so I imagine that alien sex is still a strong possibility when they do show up.
 
OK, I saw, I watched.

Cure for arsenic poisoning a bit dubious - Would have been better just to have his 'watch' cure him but hey.

Ripping out parts of the aeroplane to get the orange tube - Mmmm.

Plot: So far I'm still watching.

The previews are getting a bit too revealing but I can live with that.

On the whole - a bit slicker and less amateurish than the previous Torchy's.

obviously someones put their hand in their pocket and come up with a few readies.

Will it last, or will they run out of cash before the series ends.
 
I thought it was an exciting episode. The part about the poison remedy was not particularly credible, but I enjoyed it anyway.

And, Dave, I was also pleased with the absence of sex from the storyline. Often, in previous seasons, it was just a distraction from the real story.

If the scriptwriters decide that Jack has time to think about it now, I wouldn't believe it, and if Gwen even thinks about cheating on Rhys, I'll be furious.
 
How are our American cousins getting on with Eve Myles accent? I was wondering if it was hard to follow - particularily in the shouty bits when she's tearing up the plane floor
 
I suspect they have plenty of experience with weird accents.

Although if she was Cornish: that would sort the Texans out from the New Yorkers. It certainly does in the UK.
 

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