A man is alone in his house...

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What with the thread discussing horror readings for the month of October; the numerous threads on writers such as King, Campbell, Aickman, etc., not to mention Barker, Lovecraft, and various others labeled (rightly or wrongly) as "horror writers", I have been pondering the subject again. One aspect of this is the perennial debate concerning "horror" versus "terror". Most people don't make that distinction, but there have been a number of very astute commentators on the weird field who have, very cogently, with the general consensus being that what Karloff called "the tale of terror" is actually a much more demanding and artistic form than the "horror tale". One of my personal favorites is the formulation given by Sir Devendra P. Varma in his The Gothic Flame: "The difference between Terror and Horror is the difference between awful apprehension and sickening realization: between the smell of death and stumbling against a corpse". in other words, the difference between subtlety and (perhaps excessive) explicitness.

While I am by no means a prude when it comes to the graphic or explicit, I must admit that I do feel there must be a valid artistic reason for it beyond the simple one of "getting the reader's attention"; else what we are dealing with is, quite frankly, the most meritricious of all motivations when it comes to writing: the desire to shock simply for the sake of the shock. Not only is this, in my honest opinion, cheap and vulgar, but it is, in the long run, self-defeating; for what shocks one generation is utterly banal and boring to the next. What makes such things work, when they do, is that there is something more going on there; the "shock" is also working as a symbol for deeper things which continue to resonate and unsettle readers on multiple layers; while the simple physical repulsion becomes just that (at best): repulsion.

At any rate, this continues to lead me in the direction of feeling rather sad that so many of us, especially among those given to imaginative literature, have become so desensitized to "terror" in favor of "horror"; where it requires too much explicitness to stir a jaded appetite; we have, all-too-often, lost the ability to appreciate the "spiritual" dimension of such a tale, the ramifications which reach beyond the pages of the book and produce an unsettling worldview, even if momentarily; for such a worldview has a tendency to stick with one, when done convincingly, and to unsettle in quiet but profound ways. It questions our understanding of the universe, of "how things work", and gives us a glimpse into a realm far more alien than we imagine, and one in which we are, at best, waifs lost in the midst of a sea whose very vastness is beyond comprehension. This is what Lovecraft was referring to when, in "Supernatural Horror in Literature", he wrote the following:

The true weird tale has something more than secret murder, bloody bones, or a sheeted form clanking chains according to rule. A certain atmosphere of breathless and unexplainable dread of outer, unknown forces must be present; and there must be a hint, expressed with a seriousness and portentousness becoming its subject, of that most terrible conception of the human brain—a malign and particular suspension or defeat of those fixed laws of Nature which are our only safeguard against the assaults of chaos and the daemons of unplumbed space.

Yet one does not have to necessarily expend an enormous amount of space in creating this impression (though it has, in much the same way as our reliance on horror rather than terror, become increasingly difficult to achieve without such length), and I would like, as an exercise in what I mean, to put out there what has sometimes been called "the shortest ghost story in the English language", as an example of concision in such matters (by which I mean the maximum effect with the minimum of words), and also as an example of what I think too many of us have lost: the ability to understand, without pondering, but rather on an impressionistic, almost instinctual emotional level, the implications of such subtler forms of the terror tale as our best practitioners have shown themselves capable of producing. I will simply close with the example itself, but what I am looking for is an idea of how many of us manage to "get" the chill of this little piece, and why each one thinks it works (or doesn't work):

A man is alone in his house when a hand touches him on the shoulder.
 
Interesting piece. Personally, I prefer the subtle approach (which I suppose means terror over horror). Gore repels me, imagination truly frightens me.

Your last line works for me simply because it contains the unknown.
 
What with the thread discussing horror readings for the month of October; the numerous threads on writers such as King, Campbell, Aickman, etc., not to mention Barker, Lovecraft, and various others labeled (rightly or wrongly) as "horror writers", I have been pondering the subject again. One aspect of this is the perennial debate concerning "horror" versus "terror". Most people don't make that distinction, but there have been a number of very astute commentators on the weird field who have, very cogently, with the general consensus being that what Karloff called "the tale of terror" is actually a much more demanding and artistic form than the "horror tale". One of my personal favorites is the formulation given by Sir Devendra P. Varma in his The Gothic Flame: "The difference between Terror and Horror is the difference between awful apprehension and sickening realization: between the smell of death and stumbling against a corpse". in other words, the difference between subtlety and (perhaps excessive) explicitness.

Well put. Varma's example does a good job showing the difference between the two modes but "the smell of death and stumbling against a corpse" go so well together I wouldn't want to pit one against the other. Smelling a horrible stench as you walk into a darkened room then tripping over a dead body as you search for the light switch seems a natural, if not logical, progression. Stumbling against a corpse my be explicit by comparison but it's a subtle explicitness and I don't see anything inappropriate with it. Jumping for joy after turning on the light then chowing down without a napkin, however, perhaps goes too far.

I just finished a short anthology of classic ghost stories and there's no doubt being creeped out is more effective than being grossed out. As you said (or at least alluded to), you can be desensitized to gore but, as atheism cannot flourish in a foxhole, there is no cure for fear of the truly unknown.
 
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What bothers me is that there seems to be an inexorable creep towards gore, both in books and film, and away from imaginative 'unknown forces'. The ability to build up suspense and have us drawn in, has been superceded all too often by an apocalyptic zombie hack and slash survival story. I blame computer games - the immediacy of the images has (IMHO) definitely desensetised people to the point that 'thrill' can only be achieved by more grossness. But I'm also certain the wheel will come full circle and the ghost story that raises the hairs on your neck will see a resurgence, simply because the scope within that kind of story is so much broader than in the gore books, which as has been pointed out is the desire to shock, simply for the sake of it.

Elsewhere in the reviews, I've just written a piece on Picus the thief, which handles Vampires,wights, werecreatures with humour and a light touch that gives me a lot of hope. Even though I want subsequent books to darken somewhat, I'd be turned off if there was major gore for its own sake.

Dask: what was the anthology you've just read?
 
GHOST AND THINGS edited by Hal Cantor. And if you want creepy, Shirley Jackson's "The Lovely House" is the place to go.

Thanks. I have a love of the old Victorian ghost stories - it always seemed they belonged in that dark and dank era. I've seen The Woman in Black about 5 times at the theatre, and it frightens me every time!
 
GHOST AND THINGS edited by Hal Cantor. And if you want creepy, Shirley Jackson's "The Lovely House" is the place to go.

That was one of the earliest anthologies I ever owned (haven't seen my copy of it in years, though... need to get another copy, just for sentiment's sake). A very good selection, that....
 
Gore is a bore, I don't even like Barker or any generic bloodbaths. Probably have thrown down more 'horror' novels than any other sort.
For believable gore, I suppose novels about ambulance attendants would suffice, or Conan. )
 
Thanks. I have a love of the old Victorian ghost stories - it always seemed they belonged in that dark and dank era. I've seen The Woman in Black about 5 times at the theatre, and it frightens me every time!

For me it's Robert Wise's THE HAUNTING. Great movie to watch in the dark...in the dark...in the dark...
...The soft slap of dirt on pine woke the horse thief from his dream of death. (Okay, so I'm not Ron Goulart. Sorry.:eek:)
 
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A man is alone in his house when a hand touches him on the shoulder.
I think it is the immediate contradiction, the overturning of the protagonist's (and by extension the reader's) understanding of the facts, contained in this one sentence story.

It is also the way in which the his awareness is altered. That is not the way in which most people would like to find out that they are not actually alone. The way in which the presence introrduces itself hints at menace and perhaps at a supernatural cause.
 
For me it's Robert Wise's THE HAUNTING. Great movie to watch in the dark...in the dark...in the dark...
...The soft slap of dirt on pine woke the horse thief from his dream of death. (Okay, so I'm not Ron Goulart. Sorry.:eek:)

OMG, yes, I remember seeing it at the cinema! Russ Tamblyn had starred in 'Tom Thumb' and I thought - what? But it was incredible, and (of course) before cinema adopted gore instead of tension. I'll have to get it on DVD.

And there was a TV film once starring Jane Asher (if my memory serves me correctly) called The Stone Tapes, about parapsychologists investigating a haunted house. Probably if I saw it now it might be laughable, but I recall watching it from behind the settee... Aha, Wiki tells me it was a Christmas Ghost story in 1972, written by Nigel Kneale the creator of Quatermass... shivers down my spine just thinking about it!
 
And there was a TV film once starring Jane Asher (if my memory serves me correctly) called The Stone Tapes, about parapsychologists investigating a haunted house. Probably if I saw it now it might be laughable

Possible not ... I saw it for the first time a few years ago and thought it was pretty good.
 
I have heard good things about it, myself, and need to check it out. Not a bad example to bring in, Nigel Kneale. I think of the third Quatermass story, Quatermass and the Pit, here, for it has more than a little of the eerie feel of a supernatural tale throughout much of it and, at least in the original television production, relied almost entirely on subtle touches to evoke that feeling of terror. (I think, in particular, of the house which is considered "haunted" there.)

On the thread itself: some very good responses. I don't want to add much of a comment here myself (at least at this point), but I'm glad to see several who prefer the subtle to the club-over-the-head approach; and some of the comments above are really quite insightful....
 
And there was a TV film once starring Jane Asher (if my memory serves me correctly) called The Stone Tapes, about parapsychologists investigating a haunted house. Probably if I saw it now it might be laughable, but I recall watching it from behind the settee... Aha, Wiki tells me it was a Christmas Ghost story in 1972, written by Nigel Kneale the creator of Quatermass... shivers down my spine just thinking about it!

I have The Stone Tapes on DVD and, despite its age (with questionable effects) I still enjoy watching it every now and then. I've always thought it to be somewhat Lovecraftian:)
 
Yet one does not have to necessarily expend an enormous amount of space in creating this impression (though it has, in much the same way as our reliance on horror rather than terror, become increasingly difficult to achieve without such length), and I would like, as an exercise in what I mean, to put out there what has sometimes been called "the shortest ghost story in the English language", as an example of concision in such matters (by which I mean the maximum effect with the minimum of words), and also as an example of what I think too many of us have lost: the ability to understand, without pondering, but rather on an impressionistic, almost instinctual emotional level, the implications of such subtler forms of the terror tale as our best practitioners have shown themselves capable of producing. I will simply close with the example itself, but what I am looking for is an idea of how many of us manage to "get" the chill of this little piece, and why each one thinks it works (or doesn't work):

A man is alone in his house when a hand touches him on the shoulder.

I do get the difference between horror and terror. I think what I like more, in "horror fiction," is a sense of eerie dread that isn't really horror or terror. It's what builds in some of Machen's and Blackwood's stories. It can come through in science fiction stories (Leiber's "A Pail of Air").
 
Incidentally, here is a short short story that I wrote for someone's blog late last December. The story was not supposed to exceed 100 words.


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Unfortunately they’d listened to the late-night news. John’s shadowy dreams were tormented by a moving form and steel’s glint. The serial decapitator was near.


He awoke, sweat-damp, gasping.

His wife turned to him, caressed his face. “John, it’s all right. Go back to sleep.”


Eventually he slept, where nightmare found him: the killer bent over, blade poised.


--“Jane! Jane!” Eyes wide, he stared into the darkness, afraid even to turn his head.


He sensed his wife sit up next to him. He reached out to pat her back gratefully.


“It’s all right,” came her voice from her pillow.
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It is interesting. But surely it's all highly personal - it all comes down to the reader. That person's phobias, dreams, desires, nightmares, their education and their reading level...

I always thought terror was an internal word, and horror an external one. Terror is what I do to myself, horror is what other people do to each other. The crossover comes when the writer gets inside me, is good enough to fool me into thinking there's no harm in opening that window or checking that noise; and I wonder at the devices s/he uses to bridge the causeway between internal and external, between terror and horror.
 

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