Unrequited love

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So, apparently I'm writing paranormal romance. Thing is, I don't think any of my characters will get together.

I have two questions really.

1. Does a 'romance' have to contain two people falling in love? Or can it just have romantic things in it - like two people who love each other as friends, or someone who dies for someone else (I'm with Oscar Wilde on that one, I think it's hugely romantic), or someone who would do anything for anyone regardless, or general tragic stuff (I'm a sucker for tragedy).

2. What about unrequited love? Would you be happy reading a story where a character loves another character but they're just not loved back? You want them to get together but they just don't.

Discuss. ;)
 
1. No it doesn't have to be a love story, but typically "paranormal romance" is all about the sex and relationships. But just because a book has a romantic side to it, doesn't make it paranormal romance. Every book has romance in it to some degree, because it's just part of human nature. Without romance the characters fall over flat a bit. The romance doesn't have to lead to sex, it could just be a tension in the background.

2. Happens all the time, so why not? That tension is a great hook for the reader imo. I've done an unrequited love story myself.
 
I'm not wholly keen on fiction that seems a little too much like my normal life :(

But Romantic Tragedy is probably more interesting, if a little less popular, than Romantic Comedy. The only warning I might be tempted to offer is that if you intend on continuing these characters into another story, and you requite their love, you're gonna be lumbered with all those tiresome baby stories (bleughhh) later on (like they are in the current season of Being Human :) - see? Wait long enough and I answer every question :D)
 
I personally don't think I am writing paranormal romance. I know there's romance in every book, I find it weird when people say they don't like/read romance! There's always a love story.

I just wondered if a reader was really invested in a couple and it didn't happen, then they'd be really annoyed.

As for sex, that's not what I meant by romance.

Maybe I really am writing Supernatural Romantic Tragedy. I like the sound of that! :D

(Inter, I'm liking this series of BH!! Although not liking the future stuff)
 
Tanya Huff has a longish running series (forgotten the name temporarily) regarding a vampire who writes romance novels, a female private detective who used to be a cop (that vampire helps on cases) and the male vampire's ex-boyfriend. A little while since I read it but as far as I can remember female cop and male vampire don't go to bed together, and male vampire and male ex-boyfriend no longer go to bed together, but there is also on running tension between the vampire and the other two.
So that sells.
Also first couple of books were made into TV series.
 
1. Platonic love and sacrifice is valid in my book. As to tragedy, most of the Paranormal Romance I've read (I mean I only read one(ish) book, but I thought it was a manly Fantasy novel when I bought it;):eek:) has a good bit of dashed hopes and frustration. Characters should suffer - it's character-building.

2. Unrequited love is a classic and it's believable to most people. The unrevealed unrequited love as well. Cyrano de Bergerac is one of the most romantic stories ever.


EDIT: Montero, that's the Vicki Nelson series.
 
Montero, I'm gonna go look that up on Amazon cos it sounds quite good!

Aber, ta muchly. I've not read any paranormal romance myself so I'm kinda going by what I think paranormal romance is (which is silly girls falling in love with vampires!) There are no vampires in my WiP. Just ghosts.

I've got another story where one of the characters is absolutely besotted with another guy, he gets tortured to protect him and everything. Unfortunately the other character isn't gay. I keep trying to think of ways to make him gay just to get them together! doesn't work like that though, unfortunately.

I guess I don't want my readers (!) to end up disappointed. Or misled.
 
Hate to be a kill joy, Mouse, but it depends how long it goes on for. Think Moonlighting. Or tony hill books by Val Mcdermid. If nothing ever happens, but keeps getting set up, I feel a bit robbed. So good for one story, or even a couple of sequels, but not everlasting abstention..... :)
 
Nothing's going to be set up exactly. I think the character will know there's no way the other person will ever love them.
 
I have read a lot more paranormal romance than either you or Aber. Yes, I confess it.

Generally it goes something like this: girl arrives in new town (*)--> girl meets strange and intriguing guy --> strange and intriguing guy turns out to be werewolf/ vampire/ vampire hunter/ Elf Lord (or whatever) --> girl and intriguing guy get it together and things lose their edge rather.

The important plot element as far as you're concerned (I think) is what happens next. In many of these books there's another 'love' story going alongside the boy meets girl romance thing and it's the unrequited one. In most of the books I've read, this is actually the interesting story. Here's a list off the top of my head:

  • in the Morganville vampire stories, there's a dangerous-sexy-hopelessly-insane vampire not-really-love-interest who's much sexier and more intriguing than the actual love interest (there's a ghost love story in the first of those books as well)

  • in Michelle Sagara's Cast series there's a shockingly sexy and mysterious Elf Lord (though actually the main love interest in those books is also disgracefully mysterious and sexy) -- and actually I'm on book 7 of that series and no one has requited anything yet.

  • in Twilight -- well, I'm sure you know, but as well as the ice cool sexy sparkly vampire man there's a werewolf who's the secondary love interest and is much sexier.

  • in the True Blood series -- well this one's a bit more complex because there are a lot of books and, you know, it's for grown ups -- the really intriguing relationship is with Eric (vampire boss and former viking), which is the one that isn't consummated (except when Eric is in a magically-induced amnesiac state so it doesn't count).

So -- there's a lot of unconsummated relationship stuff going on. I suspect the difficulty is going to be that people will expect the relationship to be consummated unless you have some pretty heavyweight and blindingly obvious reason why it can't be. Anything less than impossible and people will keep on thinking that it's going to be consummated despite the odds (because that's how these things work) -- rather like springs' problem with people expecting killed-off characters to come back

Although I have just thought of a book where it really worked, and that's Sunshine by Robin McKinley -- if you only read one vampire book (and assuming you've read Dracula), then read it because it isn't a straightforward paranormal romance gah at all and it demonstrates how you can subvert the expected ending and keep everyone happy (though I'd be even happier if she'd break her rule and write a sequel).


(*) Though I did read a Meg Cabot which started: Girl drowns --> strange and intriguing guy is lord of the underworld with sexy red velvet drapes in bedroom --> girl escapes and recovers from death

Edited to add: Actually, now I think about it, Melissa Marr has a book called Ink Exchange with this sort of structure (the real love interest is the one that's unrequited)
 
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Whoa. Thanks Hex! I don't think mine'll have a main love story, I'm thinking this is why I won't be able to 'sell' it as paranormal romance. My main girly is gonna get find out pretty quick that my main dude isn't all he's cracked up to be.

So as long as it's interesting then it's all good?
 
I'd suggest for non-romance you could read Sunshine. Also, maybe, The Forest of Hands and Teeth -- the romance in that is very, er. And perhaps The End of Mr Y.

But yes, I'd say interesting = all good. Though I don't think you can sell it as paranormal romance without risking advertising standards complaints, you can sell it as whatever the three books above were.

@Mouse -- read Sunshine -- go on (though I can't remember if it's first person -- I think it may be...).
 
No present tense, no! :p Ta, just read your edits. I'll have to check those out. (I've never read Dracula! Only book I've read with vampires in is Jane Slayre!)

This:
I suspect the difficulty is going to be that people will expect the relationship to be consummated unless you have some pretty heavyweight and blindingly obvious reason why it can't be. Anything less than impossible and people will keep on thinking that it's going to be consummated despite the odds (because that's how these things work) -- rather like springs' problem with people expecting killed-off characters to come back

What if they sleep together early on? And then never again but there's no relationship between them. (Though I'm not talking about the unrequited love interest now, I'm talking about the main 'romance' if there was one.)
 
It can work both ways I guess. If they consummate the love and it doesn't work out, we understand why they don't end up together. But personally I wouldn't have them sleep together, I'm not a big fan of rushing into relationships with stories; I like the development - even if it never happens in the end.

It sounds like you already have a good reason for why they don't end up together, I'd go with that and not worry about it.
 
I'd suggest for non-romance you could read Sunshine. Also, maybe, The Forest of Hands and Teeth -- the romance in that is very, er. And perhaps The End of Mr Y.

But yes, I'd say interesting = all good. Though I don't think you can sell it as paranormal romance without risking advertising standards complaints, you can sell it as whatever the three books above were.

What would the three books above be classed as?

@Mouse -- read Sunshine -- go on (though I can't remember if it's first person -- I think it may be...).
I'll go check it out on Amazon now. ;) Almost finished Death of an Ordinary Man so gonna be looking for something else. I love first person (huge Robin Hobb fan). It's just present tense I have a problem with.

It can work both ways I guess. If they consummate the love and it doesn't work out, we understand why they don't end up together. But personally I wouldn't have them sleep together, I'm not a big fan of rushing into relationships with stories; I like the development - even if it never happens in the end.

It sounds like you already have a good reason for why they don't end up together, I'd go with that and not worry about it.

I'm not sure if they will sleep together, I'll have to see what happens. Girl has to see guy naked at some point though, for plot reasons. Though sex doesn't need to be involved for that, I guess.

edit: There's a vampire called 'Bo' in Sunshine? My dog's called Beau... not sure I could get that out of my head!
 
I'm not sure if they will sleep together, I'll have to see what happens. Girl has to see guy naked at some point though, for plot reasons. Though sex doesn't need to be involved for that, I guess.

Not necessarily sex, but it could be good for a bit of embarrassment.

Have you tried Richelle Mead's Succubus series? A bit lightweight perhaps, but fun. They (6 books) get classed as Paranormal Romance.
 
No I haven't. Not read any paranormal romance at all! I guess I should do?!

Thanks, Aber.
 
If they do sleep together then that's the tension over -- and you've broken the conventional paranormal (or many other kinds of) romance structure. And if he's clearly a bit of a... you know... selfish lover (shall we say) then the reader's probably not going to be desperate for them to get it together again.

More sex, I say. Because it can be awful and awkward (I've heard).
 
But... there's two relationships going on. Or will be. Maybe. What I'm saying is that the main characters aren't, I think, going to get the 'romance'.

(Does paranormal romance have to have vampires?)
 

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