Banks or Hamilton?

AndrewT

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I have not read very much of the newer sci fi so in the new year I am either going to tackle Iain Banks (Culture) or Peter Hamilton beginning with Night's Dawn. I can't decide which one so what do you recommend/vote for? Compare them if you read both. Either one of those would be a huge commitment of time and would take me a couple years to chip away at.
 
I read and enjoyed Hamilton's duo of Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained. I next gave The Reality Dysfunction a go. But I hit the wall like a marathon runner. Too much verbiage and too many extraneous elements to allow me to continue.

Banks, on the other hand has never disappointed. His novels can be a little long sometimes, but never require you to read several more in a set order. I enjoy his fascinating scenarios and his characters, all of which are rendered even more entertaining by his wry Scottish wit. Highly recommended.

And while we're on the subject of epic space opera, don't neglect Alastair Reynolds or Neal Asher.
 
Banks is the superior writer by far. His books are much smaller in scope though. There is a place for Hamilton, his books are huge, he fits as much of the world as he can in them, and tells fun stories. But Banks is brilliant.
 
I've only read one Banks (Consider Phlebas) and two Hamiltons (Fallen Dragon, A Second Chance at Eden) so my opinion may not count for much but, while I liked all three books to some extent, I preferred all but one chapter of Banks' novel to Hamilton's and intend to read more Banks and, other than maybe additional shorter works/collections, don't intend to read any more Hamilton. I agree with Grunkins if he means "scope" in the sense of "coverage" rather than "concept". Hamilton seems to be a kitchen-sink novelist meaning that Fallen Dragon basically said everything it could possibly say about its protagonist (including lesser storylines) and its major storyline. It wasn't so much that any particular part was too long-winded, but that there wasn't much selection. Whereas Banks had, I think, three extended set pieces which really were too long but I hope that problem is corrected in later books - and, aside from that, he selected his material better. I also found Hamilton to be imaginative and "wide-screen" but Banks seems equally wide-screen and much more colorful and quirky and has a more "fun" (not "frivolous") imagination, for the most part. Banks has a way of making things very vivid in a way that sticks in the mind while Hamilton was less vivid. That said, Hamilton has some nice touches in his shorter work so it wouldn't surprise me if some of his other novels were more interesting. But Fallen Dragon was just really too little bang for word-count buck.

And I agree with clovis-man - I've also only read two Ashers (Gridlinked, The Engineer Reconditioned) and I think five Reynolds and I'd put both of them above Hamilton. Not sure where they relate with Banks yet. And I always mention Baxter's Xeelee stuff in this context, which I'd put above them all, I think.

IOW, all of these authors have more stuff sitting in the closest of my TBR piles except Hamilton and I'm probably most looking forward to Baxter, then maybe Banks or Asher, and then probably Reynolds.
 
Not read Hamilton, but can say I thoroughly enjoy Banks. I like his humour, his tragedy, his artificial intelligence ships and exploration of present day themes via his stories.
 
I've never read any Hamilton but I can thoroughly recommend Banks - very imaginative and witty, with interesting characters and wide-ranging plots.
 
The only downside with Banks is that he doesn't get you all that close to the characters.

Personally I prefer a writing POV that gets you thoroughly into the character's heads.

If you haven't read Richard Morgan and you don't mind sex and violence I would choose him over Banks or Hamilton. I would just skip Broken Angels as for me it's too depressing! All his others are just amazing.

Coragem.
 
The only downside with Banks is that he doesn't get you all that close to the characters.

Personally I prefer a writing POV that gets you thoroughly into the character's heads.

If you haven't read Richard Morgan and you don't mind sex and violence I would choose him over Banks or Hamilton. I would just skip Broken Angels as for me it's too depressing! All his others are just amazing.

Coragem.
Well thats just put me off Morgan!
 
Atered Carbon and Black Man are well worth picking up.
 
I would say neither. I couldn't get thru either of their books.
 
I prefer Hamilton's first three books - the Mindstar ones - set on a post global warming world. Much shorter than The Reality Disfunction series. (Normal paperback thickness, not a door stop.)

If you fancy trying Hamilton try those. Some of the elements of his later books are in there (especially rich girls, clever technology and imaginative world building) but I found them more approachable and human and they are not massive and multi-threaded.
 
I liked Hamilton's Mindstar books and loved his Commonwealth and Void (continuation of the Commonwealth) books. But they are big and I would say split opinions (see comments above ;)) far more than Banks. I didn't enjoy the Knights Dawn books nearly as much; in fact, had I read them before the Commonwealth books, I might never have gone on to read any more of his work. Banks' books (which I also love) are not short but are a lot shorter than Hamilton's and generally more accessible; I would recommend The Player of Games as a starter book (the reading order of the Culture books is generally unimportant). For other 'serious' modern SF authors I would also consider Neal Asher, whom I also love.

In fact I would consider that those three are my favourite three contemporary SF authors. There may be some bias there, in that they are all three Brits and I generally seem to like the Brit style of modern SF more than the American.
 
Both are good. I remember Player of Games as being significantly darker.

I remember it just the other way around. In PoG, there were villainous types to contend with, but in UoW, there was the additional factor of a tortured soul.

Both are epic.
 
PoG is my personal favourite, but both are excellent.
 

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