Influential sci-fi

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I've explored sci-fi in the past but it was entirely on the basis of names of authors and novels that came recommended to me and there was no real structure to my reading. Based on what I know about my tastes I prefer new wave and beyond but I can worry about that stuff later. Right now I'd like to start with Golden Age 40s-50s material (or golden age authors) and work my way forward down the chain of influences to get a better understanding of the genre. That said, feel free to recommend me anything from golden age through new wave and I'll be happy to check it out, but I would appreciate the era being listed for my convenience.

As is, I have a few '50s novels on hand--Starship Troopers, I Am Legend, among others--and I've got Library of America's two volume '50s sci-fi collection, two volumes of Asimov's short stories (complete short stories vols. 1 & 2) in the mail along with Clarke's The City and the Stars and The Songs of Distant Earth (I realize this is a later work) in the mail. I'm happy for whatever advice I can get.
 
"Starship Troopers" and "I am Legend" are both highly recommended if you haven't read them before.

From the "golden age", a few immediately spring to mind:

Theodore Sturgeon - "More than Human". Absolute classic and, in my opinion, probably a significant influence on the New Wave that followed it.

Fredrick Pohl & C.M. Kornbluth - "The Space Merchants". I couldn't believe how modern and pertinent this felt when I read it recently, fifty years after it's original publication.

Ray Bradbury - "The Martian Chronicles" (AKA "The Silver Locusts"). Seminal series of interconnected Mars colonisation stories that really moved the sub-genre on from what had gone before.

John Christopher - "The Death of Grass". Powerful and shocking apocalyptic story and a gripping read.

John Wyndham - "The Midwich Cuckoos". Perhaps the obvious choice is "Day of the Triffids" but I haven't read that yet. I thought this was a powerful story of alien invasion.

A. E. Van Vogt - "The Voyage of the Space Beagle". His work is pretty wacky and full of big ideas. This is my favourite of his I have read.
 
The SFMasterworks series is a pretty good guide to some of the best classic SF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Masterworks

You can read some discussion on it here: http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum/525641-sf-masterwork-series-continued.html

Essentially this ia a series created by Gollancz of SF books that had gone out of print and they considered should be made available again. (Ironically I believe many of the SFMasterworks books are actually out of print themselves now but never mind!). Bear in mind that the nature of this series means it is nowhere near comprehensive. Some classic books might not have been out of print or Gollancz couldn't get publication permission etc. Also there is a certain amount of bias; Philip K Dick, awesome though his work is, does get rather a lot of inclusions. Also there is no reason why you should necessarily by the SFMasterworks edition of each book. If you are not familiar with it a very good source of secondhand books is http://www.abebooks.co.uk/

I would say picking a selection from that lot will introduce you to some of the most influential SF books written.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions brought up thus far. I'll make sure to look into all of them.

Vertigo: I've discovered the SF Masterworks list, fortunately, and have dug through that list pretty thoroughly to find anything that would be of interest to me and wish list it for future use. :) At this point I'm looking for the stuff that was 'too popular', I guess, for such a list.
 
Right now I'd like to start with Golden Age 40s-50s material (or golden age authors) and work my way forward down the chain of influences to get a better understanding of the genre.

"Golden Age" can mean different things to different people. It's usually used in a strict sense of Astounding's Golden Age which runs, at most, from 1939-1949 but some people restrict it to 1947 or so (when Heinlein started publishing in the slicks) to even 1942 or so (when a lot of writers temporarily stopped writing due to the war effort). As such, it's exclusively a magazine phenomenon and, while there were many great serials, it was almost exclusively a short-fiction phenomenon. It sounds like you're using it in a "stuff that came before the New Wave" sense, which would be 1939-early 60s (or "40s-50s material") and that definitely features more "book" material but, even so, magazines were pretty dominant through even this period.

As is, I have a few '50s novels on hand--Starship Troopers, I Am Legend, among others--and I've got Library of America's two volume '50s sci-fi collection, two volumes of Asimov's short stories (complete short stories vols. 1 & 2) in the mail along with Clarke's The City and the Stars and The Songs of Distant Earth (I realize this is a later work) in the mail. I'm happy for whatever advice I can get.

Before reading Starship Troopers, I would recommend reading The Past Through Tomorrow, which collects virtually all Heinlein's early Future History stories, and some of his less controversial juveniles actually published by Scribners', and Double Star. That "Complete Stories" of Asimov is anything but - one is an omnibus of three collections and another is a miscellany of stories and the two together are still woefully incomplete. That said, I think the omnibus volume includes The Martian Way and Earth is Room Enough and hopefully Nine Tomorrows or something like, and isn't a bad thing to have. But Asimov's real early core was The Foundation Trilogy, the Robot stories (initially collected in I, Robot and later in The Complete Robot (which was complete in 1982 but isn't any longer), and a couple of stand-alones like "Nightfall". Then, in the 50s, he added the two Robot novels (The Caves of Steel, The Naked Sun) and a semi-stand-alone (The End of Eternity). Clarke is actually not entirely a Golden Age author, though he's one of "the Big Three" as canonized in the 50s. Clarke published a couple of stories in amateur publications and was first published in Astounding in 1946 or so, whereas Heinlein, Asimov, and van Vogt (arguably the original "Big Three") were published, along with numerous others like Sturgeon and Leiber, in 1939. The City and the Stars is a a revision of Against the Fall of Night and might not be a bad start but I wouldn't recommend The Songs of Distant Earth at all. It's not bad, but it's an 80s book and not particularly good, either. Maybe Childhood's End would be the way to go there.

Beyond the Big Three, I'd recommend reading a lot of anthologies and following those authors who intrigue you. Things like Healy/McComas' Adventures in Space and Time, Boucher's A Treasury of Great Science Fiction, and so on. There's also an Asimov/Greenberg series of retro-anthologies covering 1939-1963. And one of the best series for the purpose that you can get into is a 70s series from Ballantine called The Best of <Author>. This takes the broad-church definition of authors who published their first story 1950 or before, with some notable omissions. Some, like Heinlein and Asimov, can be explained like Elizabethan poetry anthologies "exclusive of Spenser and Shakespeare" where you're just assumed to have the works of those authors but others, like Simak, are a bit harder to figure. Still, the authors in that series are Stanley G. Weinbaum (30s), Fritz Leiber, Frederik Pohl, Henry Kuttner, Cordwainer Smith, C.L. Moore, John W. Campbell (30s), C.M. Kornbluth, P.K. Dick, Frederic Brown, Edmond Hamilton, Leigh Brackett, Robert Bloch, Murray Leinster, L. Sprague de Camp, Jack Williamson, Raymond Z. Gallun, Lester del Rey, Eric Frank Russell, Hal Clement, and James Blish.

To that, I'd add at least Bradbury (not a huge fan, but can't do without The Martian Chronicles, Fahrenheit 451, and a selection of stories), Doc Smith (if you want to understand modern SF, that includes the New Space Opera, and so you need to know the old Space Opera - the Skylark series but, especially, the Lensman series), and Theodore Sturgeon (someone like Asimov and Heinlein, where you need something like the complete works - more than just a single selection).

The LoA set is great but is, of course, missing some titles and skips the 40s altogether. Some more random titles:

Clement - Mission of Gravity
Hamilton - The Star Kings
Leiber - Gather Darkness, The Big Time
Leinster - Colonial Survey (aka The Planet Explorer)
van Vogt - Slan, The Weapon Makers, The World of Null-A, The Voyage of the Space Beagle
Williamson - The Humanoids (and he also had a major 30s space opera in the Legion of Space series)

I'd also add George O. Smith's The Complete Venus Equilateral - I personally love them but I imagine many people would not. :) Still, if you're interested in the history and influence, I think these "engineers scrawl solutions on the backs of napkins" stories are exemplary of a vital early sub-type.

I'll probably spend the next few days kicking myself for things I've inexplicably forgotten to mention such as specifically getting some Brackett planetary romance fo another major sub-type. But it's an almost inexhaustible reserve of great stuff and all our posts together will only scratch the surface.

Another avenue is to track down biographies or histories by the greats themselves. For instance, Fred Pohl's autobiography, The Way the Future Was, and del Rey's The World of Science Fiction: 1926-1976: The History of a Subculture, Asimov's voluminous genre-related non-fiction writings and so on. This will help with who's who and what's what.
 
Asimov, End of Eternity ( I think its from the 50s)
also his Nightfall.

Clarke's Reach for Tomorrow contains some superb early stories including his first, Rescue Party, from 1949.
 
Vertigo: I've discovered the SF Masterworks list, fortunately, and have dug through that list pretty thoroughly to find anything that would be of interest to me and wish list it for future use. :) At this point I'm looking for the stuff that was 'too popular', I guess, for such a list.
I didn't know that any books were too popular to go in this series but perhaps Asimov's "Foundation" series qualifies as it has thus far been inexplicably excluded...
 
I agree with most of the suggestions above, particularly of Heinlein's Future History series as a starter for that author.
The City and the Stars is a fabulous novel.
Slan is my favourite van Vogt.

In addition to the above suggestions I would recommend:
Clifford Simak: City, Way Station. To start with...
Cordwainer Smith: Norstrilia, The Rediscovery of Man (some might dispute the Golden Ageiness of this, but essential nevertheless.)
John Wyndham: The Day of the Triffids
 
First of all, thank you for the time and effort you put into the detailed response. I'll make sure to look into everything you've suggested. That said, I want to respond to this part of your post and see if I can get some more information out of you.

"Golden Age" can mean different things to different people. It's usually used in a strict sense of Astounding's Golden Age which runs, at most, from 1939-1949 but some people restrict it to 1947 or so (when Heinlein started publishing in the slicks) to even 1942 or so (when a lot of writers temporarily stopped writing due to the war effort). As such, it's exclusively a magazine phenomenon and, while there were many great serials, it was almost exclusively a short-fiction phenomenon. It sounds like you're using it in a "stuff that came before the New Wave" sense, which would be 1939-early 60s (or "40s-50s material") and that definitely features more "book" material but, even so, magazines were pretty dominant through even this period.

If you can name some anthologies aimed specifically at that era of short stories ('39-'49) that would be found in magazines I'd be happy to look into those. I won't limit myself strictly to novels, I assure you.
 
I've explored sci-fi in the past but it was entirely on the basis of names of authors and novels that came recommended to me and there was no real structure to my reading. Based on what I know about my tastes I prefer new wave and beyond but I can worry about that stuff later. Right now I'd like to start with Golden Age 40s-50s material (or golden age authors) and work my way forward down the chain of influences to get a better understanding of the genre. That said, feel free to recommend me anything from golden age through new wave and I'll be happy to check it out, but I would appreciate the era being listed for my convenience.

As is, I have a few '50s novels on hand--Starship Troopers, I Am Legend, among others--and I've got Library of America's two volume '50s sci-fi collection, two volumes of Asimov's short stories (complete short stories vols. 1 & 2) in the mail along with Clarke's The City and the Stars and The Songs of Distant Earth (I realize this is a later work) in the mail. I'm happy for whatever advice I can get.

You must read Dying Earth tales by Jack Vance if you want important SF from 50s.
 
If you can name some anthologies aimed specifically at that era of short stories ('39-'49) that would be found in magazines I'd be happy to look into those. I won't limit myself strictly to novels, I assure you.

I have this fine tome on my shelf:

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I didn't know that any books were too popular to go in this series but perhaps Asimov's "Foundation" series qualifies as it has thus far been inexplicably excluded...

I will definitely look into the Foundation series. It's been wish listed for a time when I want to start another long series. Hell, since I've mentioned it, do the members here favor reading the Foundation series chronologically in the order of publication or in the 'world' itself?

My understanding of the SF Masterworks series is that it was to compile a set of books that had gone out of print (implying lack of popularity) and thus might be missed by people going and grabbing stuff off of a book store shelf, hence my comment.
 
If you can name some anthologies aimed specifically at that era of short stories ('39-'49) that would be found in magazines I'd be happy to look into those. I won't limit myself strictly to novels, I assure you.

Well, those that I did would fit - Healy/McComas covers basically 1938-1945 though it has two or three from earlier. The Boucher is mostly 1938-1950, though it has several things from the 50s. The Asimov/Greenberg selects the best stories from each year, including 1939-1949. One I left out, though, is The Science Fiction Hall of Fame which is presented in three volumes by Silverberg and Bova and has the SFWA select what it thinks are the best stories up to 1964 (since they started giving out Nebulas in 1965) so this naturally includes a good bit of 40s/50s stuff and comes right up to the edge of the New Wave era (I think the most recent story in it is a Zelazny from '63).

I have this fine tome on my shelf:

I don't have that, myself, but, based on the contents, that is a good one. So there's another.

My understanding of the SF Masterworks series is that it was to compile a set of books that had gone out of print (implying lack of popularity) and thus might be missed by people going and grabbing stuff off of a book store shelf, hence my comment.

I think it's more the best books they can secure the rights for though there may naturally be an emphasis on the things that are out of print so they can get those rights and not be competing with other editions. But I wouldn't say being out of print had much to do with popularity - almost everything is out of print these days. Just the latest blockbusters are usually in print. "Death of the midlist/backlist".
 
I will definitely look into the Foundation series. It's been wish listed for a time when I want to start another long series. Hell, since I've mentioned it, do the members here favor reading the Foundation series chronologically in the order of publication or in the 'world' itself?
That's a whole topic in itself.
My understanding of the SF Masterworks series is that it was to compile a set of books that had gone out of print (implying lack of popularity) and thus might be missed by people going and grabbing stuff off of a book store shelf, hence my comment.
That may have been true in some cases but certainly not all. "Dune" for instance is in the series (one of the most popular SF novels ever).
 
Thank you all for the recommendations. I've pulled together a good start for myself with many of the '50s novels recommended along with some Clarke (of course) and Olaf Stapledon among others, and a few anthologies including Asimov's pre-golden age anthology and Boucher's two volume A Treasury of Great Science Fiction. I also have The Mammoth Book of Golden Age SF on hand and Conklin's A Treasury of Science Fiction will be on the way here soon. And most importantly, I'm reading all of this stuff, not just collecting it.;) ...I suppose it's also important that I'm enjoying it more than I originally expected to! I should also note that I've achieved the goal I hoped for with this thread in that my 'research' into the history of the genre feels well structured now. From chaos came order...

Thanks for all the help. You folks will make a useful poster out of me yet!:D
 

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