Twins - cliched?

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So I'm thinking about my WIP, again, and I'm wondering -- is the 'twins who share a power/bond' thing overdone? I mean, I could easily just make them siblings, but twins seems to have a sort of symmetry about it and would work well with the prophecy slant of my book. (Promise, it's not completely choc-a-block with cliches).

I can't actually think of anything off the top of my head (except Cersei and Jaime in ASOIAF, but that's a whoooole other thing).
 
Never... I have twins as a central theme in Abendau. i know it is a cliche, and tried to turn it around a bit. They do get done a lot, but that's cos there is a symmetry of sorts. As ever, it is what you do with it.

Twins in sci fi, fantasy... Musing... Paul's kids in Dune, i suppose, are a classic. Cally in blake's seven was a twin and that was central to her character. I suspect the wider read will have more. Leia and Luke Skywalker.
 
Oddly enough I was reading something about twins this very morning.

A woman called Taiye Selasi has a book (non-SFF) coming out soon, and there are twins in it. She's a twin herself and has a link with her sister -- she refers to one of them having an anxiety attack when the other has a nightmare. She acknowledges they crop up a lot in literature because "they are an incredible metaphor." Not sure what of, personally but she talks of "a relationship that contains in its very essence everything that is in human experience." Except sex, one trusts.**

I can only think of Luke and Leia (are they twins?). I know HareBrain's WIPs are heavily invested in the idea of twins so he'll no doubt be able to talk knowledgably about the whole aspect.

Anyway, go for it.


** in real life that is
 
Can't say as I ever really think of twins. I went to school with twins. They were both absolute b*tches.

Apart from Cersei and Jaime, and Kare and Karia, I can't think of any. Oh and Luke and Leia, which I've just stolen from TJ.

So they can't be that common. Or maybe I don't read enough.

edit: Because I'm a complete spanner, I've just remembered that I have written a twin before, but his brother died when they were two, so he was only ever really an only child to me. He had a power. His twin didn't, obviously, cos he was dead.
 
Excellent, what I like to hear. I've heard lots about how twins have their own languages growing up, etc (the only twins I know/knew in real life HATED each other until they were about 15 then became identical -- possibly because they were identical and kept getting mistaken for one another) which would tie in nicely with their mind-reading abilities :)
 
Twins are something that is completely natural in the world, so to avoid writing about them because you fear they might be clichéd is to ignore twins really exist. In a fantasy world of course they are going to have some extra, magical bond between them. I think Luke and Leia have such a strong connection with sci-fi/fantasy fans and a special place in their minds that it makes it seem like the concept is overdone when it really isn't.
 
If they are twins cos it is cool, that's poor storytelling. If being a twin is central to who they are and their motivations then it is good, imho. With Kare and Karia, since Mouse has kindly outed them :p, there is a scene that divides opionion where one dies, but it is the central motivation - and has been on crits here and is in the first 10000 words, so isn't a spoiler - for the other across the trilogy and is going to bite in a big way in the final book. If it was there just for shock and coolness it would be cliched, as a central driver it is, i hope anyway, not. ( but thanks for this, amw, i have often had a niggling worry about it:) )
 
I've only known one pair of twins, and I don't know about any special links they may have had, but they were decidedly... um... They did everything together, the same subjects at school, the same degree, and went into the same job. Rumour had it they were genetically non-identical twins, but they certainly looked identical, and wore the same clothes, had the same hairstyle, everything. Very unsettling.

I'm putting twins into my SF if I ever get around to writing book number 25 or so, but they're not important characters in their own right, so their twinniness is really just a plot point in relation to their parents.
 
You worry too much, springs :)

Yes, I think it is central to them, because I'm thinking of their story arc and how it's going to end, and I think their 'twin-ness' (for want of a better word) is key here.

edit: yeah, TJ, my mum knew twins like that. They worked together (with her) and even got married on the same day. :eek:
 
edit: yeah, TJ, my mum knew twins like that. They worked together (with her) and even got married on the same day. :eek:

What would be really unsettling is if they got married to twins - they'd both have the same husband/wife too. :eek:


EDIT: Scary thing is, just did a quick google search and realised that isn't all that uncommon. :eek:
 
There is a twin "epidemic," at least in this country, although it's mostly fraternal twins (which is handy if you want boy/girl twins for your story anyway) instead of identicals, but there are more of both kinds than formerly and nobody knows why. So, in the near future, if this keeps up, teenage and adult twins won't be as much as a rarity as they are now, and will be too commonplace to seem like a cliché in books.

Until the last few years, I can only think of six sets of twin that I've been acquainted with. Since Jack and Ethan were born (and they were six in September) four other pairs of twins have been born to people I know or have met. Of these recent twins, only one pair is identical. So six pairs in 57 years, and then four in the last six. Also, Megan tells me that in Ethan's grade at his school there are three pairs of twins (that's four out of about 90 kids) all of them identical twins except for him. Jack goes to a different school because he's in a special ed class and Megan doesn't know about the other kids in his grade, but in his class (which is 12 children) there is one other twin.

Plus, it seems like several times a year some celebrity mother is having twins.

The increased number of twins is partly due to in vitro fertilization where more fetuses are planted, and partly due to pregnancies in older mothers, which increases the chance of multiple births ... and neither of these trends is likely to end soon, and may increase ... but more young women are having them, too, and as I said, no one knows why.
 
Actually, Teresa, that's made me think -- obviously there are also bloodlines that are genetically predisposed to twins anyway (or so I've heard -- haven't read the science on it). So, hmm, I could work that in somewhere as well (since their power/gift/whatever you want to call it is genetic....Oh I've just had a brilliant idea *rushes to notes document)
 
Being one who has twins in the family, here goes

Fraternal twins are genetic and carried in the maternal line, and generally skip a generation. I have two first cousins by my maternal aunt which means my girls and my two female cousins' girls are genetically predisposed to them. The fact it is my cousins and not my brothers makes statistically no difference because it is in my maternal mother's and my genes. Because the twins are both boys, they won't have passed their genes on, but their sisters, neither of whom is a twin, will.

Identical twins are a quirk and not carried genetically, i believe.*

* see, i do research....
 
Excellent, springs, thank you, because that fits in perfectly with what I'm planning. That's how I know this rewrite will be the one*...the plots lines are tying themselves up nicely. :)

*Ask me again in 6 months when I hate it...
 
Fraternal twins are genetic and carried in the maternal line, and generally skip a generation.

Yeah, this is what my granddad keeps telling me as apparently, I'm gonna have twins. :rolleyes: Just as well I'm never having kids!
 
I don't think it's overdone, unless you're writing a detective novel where it all hinges on DNA evidence and nobody knows the suspect's an identical twin. ;) If I see that scenario ever again, it'll be too soon.

Otherwise, go for it. My mother was a twin, so it's a pretty normal scenario for me. They couldn't stand being in the same room together (too different in personality), but they both always said that they could tell when the other was upset, and got on the phone.
 
Actually, a lot of issues with "litter" births in humans is the use of fertility drugs. Humans aren't meant to have litters; generally the womb can support two comfortably, three usually maxed. After that, serious complications can arise.


There's also the theory that many conceptions actually are twin, but dominant embryos will absorb the submissive. I suspect that there could be issues behind that as well.


I'm also of the mind that diet plays a far larger role in a lot of fields of health than people give credit for. Particularly, mental health, but maybe the over-consumption of certain nutrients, such as sodium, can play a role in things as well, as well as an increased consumption of preservatives like nitrates, and a drop in consumption among many people in other nutrients.
 
Better prenatal care could mean that more twins are carried to term. Also, doctors perform ultra sound earlier, and the mother of twins knows she has a high risk pregnancy, so she may be more careful.

Megan had an ultra sound when she was only a month pregnant and that's when she found out.

So twin births may become more and more common.
 
Two of my three MC kids in one of my WIPs (WsIP? I can never decide) are fraternal twins, boy and girl. They don't have any special twin-powers.

I've known a few sets of twins, but none well enough to ask or be told whether or not they had special empathy with each other. One set may have special powers, knowing them -- but they keep it secret. :D

I wouldn't think anything of a twin scenario, myself -- books are about the interesting stuff, after all, not the dull and ordinary.
 

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