Adopting different author personae

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Springs’s thread about what we would like to write has set off a train of thought. The series I’m currently working on is quite different from the novel I said I most wanted to write, and from the couple of past novels drawn from the same source. Briefly, those ones feel as though they definitely come from me, whereas the current series doesn’t so much. Sometimes I feel that my current one could almost have been written by a different person — which raises the thought that perhaps it would be better if it were.

I’m not talking about an actual physically different person, but a different authorial persona. Maybe the difficulty I’ve sometimes had progressing with the series is that I try to write it with the same self as my former work (the stuff that more obviously, to me, comes from deeper down), when the two aren’t perfectly compatible.

I remember reading in a book by Colin Wilson how he was once trapped in a hotel room by Dino de Laurentis and instructed to revise a film script. Finding he didn't have time to do the work himself, he handed it over to part of his subconscious, to whom he even gave a name, Gerald or something. Gerald did the revisions far more effectively and efficiently than Wilson himself could have done. I’ve also read about a crime writer who could work on two different books (from different series) at once, but only by using different desks and computers. Maybe both these are examples of authors adopting a different ‘self’ to get their work done, and at a more fundamental level than getting into the mindset of a particular character POV.

Does anyone here consciously do this, or know of other examples? As an exercise, I’ve been trying to imagine the kind of person I might have imagined writing my current book if I’d read it with no prior knowledge: what he (or even she) would wear, what they would drive, how they would live, and I’ve found it quite interesting. Whether trying to assume such a self would allow the writing to flow more easily, I've no idea yet.

(Before anyone else says it, I realise, of course, that this could all just be a more than usually inventive way of procrastinating.)
 
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I'm a schizophrenic,
and so am I.

Stephen King wrote a wonderful book about that subject (The Dark Half)except his writer character was trying to get rid of the other writer within himself. Of course in his novel the other guy became real and came after his hero. with a vengeance.
I was pretty sure this had something to do with his nom de plume "Richard Bachman. Even very successful writer derive thing from a different place sometimes. Maybe you've got two writers within you.

(Forgive the poem. I couldn't resist.)
 
It's excellent procrastinating. So excellent, I think I'll join you.

I have no problem switching between books, so I think I'm mostly in charge with each one. But each does, definitely, have its own voice, and sometimes they don't sound much like me. Inish in particular took on a very terse Norn Iron tone that the others don't have, and i wonder was I narrating it to myself in the voices I hear around me rather than my terribly posh accent? But each feels like they come from a part of me, and not someone else.

Procrastination over. :)
 
I always write with my subconscious.

Anya is my writerly persona. She works on my stories.

Charlotte is the one that spends her life up to the elbows in the rubbish that comes with motherhood.
 
I'm not so sure about the psychological issues, but it seems to me that we might be seeing books written by Hare Brain and Hair M Brain.
 
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I'm a schizophrenic,
and so am I.

I'm a Gemini, and so am I. I've always been a bit of a split personality. What's weird is that my writing persona, once distant from my alter ego, is now almost identical. In other words, I'm becoming that author. Or, I write, therefore I am.
 
The author Trevanian changed his authorly voice so often that his nom de plume was rumoured to be shared by a collective of otherwise respectable authors. I'm sure I've heard the same rumour in connection with other names as well. Each book has its own voice, and anyone who is capable of writing different characters is probably capable of being them.
 
Just like Neil Young (the musician). He goes with whatever creativity comes to him first thing in the morning.

I edit with my conscious but my writing always feels like it comes from someone else. Even as I am writing it doesn't feel like my work.

My first book arrived by accident and I was very surprised to have the draft of a novel.
 
I edit with my conscious but my writing always feels like it comes from someone else. Even as I am writing it doesn't feel like my work.

My first book arrived by accident and I was very surprised to have the draft of a novel.

Interestingly**, yesterday after starting this thread I was talking to someone who for professional reasons had just attended a course on dissociation. She had talked to several authors there who said exactly the same thing, or even more extreme, that they only knew what they'd written when they read it through afterwards. (She made it clear that this didn't mean these authors had any dissociative identity disorder or anything.)

So that left me wondering, is this way of writing the rule rather than the exception? My subconscious has quite a lot of input into my own writing, but it almost never feels more than 50%.


**usual disclaimer applies
 
I've had a few occasions where I've started a scene and looked up an hour later having typed it so fast it's like it came from somewhere else. They tend to be good scenes, too. One in paticular - i had a teen finding out her dad was hurt and running to find him -- is barely changed from the moment it was first written, and every beta commented that it was really strong.

I don't think it's the same as dissociation - i get that a lot with my anxiety fits - but it was definitely a very real scene to write.
 
Interestingly**, yesterday after starting this thread I was talking to someone who for professional reasons had just attended a course on dissociation. She had talked to several authors there who said exactly the same thing, or even more extreme, that they only knew what they'd written when they read it through afterwards. (She made it clear that this didn't mean these authors had any dissociative identity disorder or anything.)

That can happen as well. In my first draft of Mayhem my main series character Socrates went to a watery grave and I killed him off.

I was writing a scene with what was then Prince Jonathan (became Angus) and a palace facilities manager, Paul Jackson (he is now Nate, head of the secret service - and yes the book was that dull). It was only when I read it back I discovered Paul had been having an affair with Socrates, Socrates was gay and I had a way of keeping Socrates alive whilst making the then Jonathan king. Whole book changed on a scene I don't remember ever writing. That night I was watching a John Barrowman music video and a scene from it put Crown Prince Socrates in my head.

I don't think it is essential at all but I do think different types of stories come from the conscious and subconscious. Mostly my 75 word ones come from conscious thought.

I also meditate and I find my storytelling part of the brain is in the same place my mind goes to when it meditates. I'm astounded about how prophetic to my own life my stories can me and how much of me ends up in them.
 
When I was writing all the time, imaginary people (the ones in my books, usually) were talking in my head most of the time. Not talking to me, I hasten to add, but to each other. (Is that better or worse?)

Then, when I hit a long block, they stopped. That's why I couldn't write. I couldn't hear their voices anymore, so any words I wrote would just be words. None of them would be the truth.

If that was some form of insanity, I want it back.
 

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