[FANTASY] 'Godsfall' - rewritten extract ch. 1 (1500 words - ooo, cutting it fine!)

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Hey all,

Sorry to bother you again. Thanks for the critique on the original chapter. I took everything you said on board, the main points being:

1) Hint at something larger even this early in the story (I struggled to get it in the first 1500 words before).

2) 'Cancer' as a disease. Not cancer itself, but the name.

3) Lack of emotion.

4) Lack of conflict.

5) Heavy on the telling side.

5) Routine - as priests they should have some sort of structure to their day (I didn't elude to this at all, though in my head it was there, d'oh).

So, I went back to the drawing (read: writing) board and threw something new together.

I hope you don't mind me posting this reworked piece, and yes I did cut it fine at 1500 words, but I hope that you'll forgive me!

Many thanks,

D.

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“If I die today, will you still come here to watch the phoenix?”

“Psst, mother. You won’t die today.” Standing behind her, Osar draped the shawl around her frail shoulders and kissed the top of her head. What little hair she had left was plastered to her scalp, the sickly sweet aroma of medicinal herbs clinging to it.

Wheezing, she twisted on the stone bench and looked him in the eye. “Ossy, we all die. That’s why life is so precious – it passes us by in the blink of an eye.” Her clammy hand cupped his cheek. “Why look at you, all grown up, handsome and strong. I can still remember the day I gave birth to you. Sixteen years seems like just yesterday. I was the same age as you are now.”

Turning back to the horizon, red dawn before the sunrise, she chuckled to herself. “You were an ugly baby.”

Osar circled the bench, hiking-up his yellow vestments to step over the rubble of a collapsed sandstone pillar. “You are a wicked woman,” he scolded, failing to hide the ghost of a smile as he knelt before her.

“I look like an old crone, and I’d hate to disappoint by acting any other way.” She winked. “Besides, if not for this disease, I’d still have the looks of my age and the other priests would’ve long forsaken their vows.”

This time her mirth was strangled by a wet cough, wracking her entire body. Gasping for breath, tears tracing her hollow cheeks, she clutched to her chest, lost somewhere beneath the folds of her threadbare gown.

When at last the fit subsided, Osar offered his hand to her. “Let me see.”

“I’m fine. Too dry a day.” She rasped, shrugging the shawl from her shoulders and balling it in her lap. “Why’ve you wrapped me in this anyway? Have you forgotten that there’s a desert outside the walls of this city?”

Osar gestured with his extended hand. “Mother.”

“Too curious for your own good.” She rolled her eyes, but reached out to him all the same. “Fine, but don’t tell me what you see. I’m better off not knowing.”

Their fingers met, and as he closed his eyes the barriers of flesh faded away. Around them the world turned an absent shade, somewhere between black and white, but not quite grey. The stone bench, the fountain to his right, the pillars circling the ruins, even the monumental ziggurat that housed the temple itself – all lost their colour on the manaplains. The sounds of the priests waking for morning prayer echoed from a world away. He could see them moving through the gardens around the ruins, their silhouettes aglow with life, like stars in the night. Those with magic shone all the brighter, their manaseeds a lantern in the nether.

Harnessing a strand of magic from the light of his own manaseeds, Osar extended it towards his mother. The tumour in her breast was no larger than his thumb, but it cast a shadow over her heart that muffled its erratic beat. Probing the tumour with the mana strand, as a surgeon might with his fingers, Osar sighed with relief.

‘No better, no worse.’ The thought was somehow comforting. ‘You’ll see the phoenix again tomorrow.’

“Ossy, look!”

Her voice pulled him back to the present. She pointed to the east as the sun broke over the horizon. “Here it comes.”

Over the temple’s outer wall a shape took to the sky. From where Osar sat at his mother’s feet, he watched the phoenix spiral ever higher, its song drifting through the heavens. As it reached its zenith, no more than a faint outline before the sun, it burst into flames, golden feathers showering the city below.

“Now, I can die happy.”

Before Osar could reply, the gong boomed from the fourth level of the ziggurat, shaking very the earth. Dust plumed within the ruins, and a lopsided pillar shifted with the grating of stone.

“It’s dangerous sitting here.” Osar gained his feet. “Why don’t we watch the phoenix from the rock gardens, tomorrow?”

“Because there’s a bench here – and if we sit in the rock gardens I’ll have priests pestering me with well wishing.” She shooed him. “Go on, off with you. I want peace and quiet without you fussing over me.”

Osar snatched the shawl from her lap and cloaked her legs with it. “Stay here, I’ll take you back to bed once I’m finished.”

She pulled him back as he turned to leave, beckoning him close.

When she smiled, colour blossomed on her lips, cheek swelling with new life, and the ravages of the disease gave way to the woman he remembered her from when he was a child.

“I’m not going anywhere,” she whispered, pointing to his chest. “I’ll always be here.”

* * * * *​

Osar joined the priests shuffling through the Vault’s doors. A pair of beardless, shaven-headed novi manned the way, swinging incense lanterns and chanting in hushed tones. Subconsciously his hand went to his own head, feeling the short bristles in much need of a razor. As a meji he was permitted a single-point chin beard, but so far his efforts to grow one had produced only whiskers.

Rubbing at his chin, deep in thought, his gaze roamed up the ziggurat to its highest point, the greened-copper dome. Five tiers of sandstone blocks, each larger and wider than Osar was tall, made up the ziggurat, navigated by steep steps. A testament to the Golden God’s splendour, the levels were lined with statues of former Archsaji and Kings. Over the large double doors leading into the Vault, the temple’s banner stood watch over the priests – a five pointed golden star on a white background.

As the last of the priests filed into the Vault, the novi pair laid down their incense lanterns and heaved the doors closed, though careful to leave a definitive opening. Osar smiled to himself. ‘The doors to the house of the Golden God are always open.’

With ritual familiarity, everyone took their place around the Vault. Not for the first time Osar marvelled at the inner workings of the temple. Though the ziggurat was built on even stepped levels, the Vault within was a perfect dome, smooth walls adorned with murals of temple history at eye-level, overlooked by little yellow birds in flight. At the point where one had to look-up, the birds flew no higher, and in their place stars decorated the curved ceiling. There were no windows in the Vault, and the only light came from the opulus at the dome’s apex. A single beam of sunlight shone through the opening, striking the great amber-veined crystal that was suspended from the ceiling by golden chains. Dizzying reflections danced around the Vault, impossible to follow though Osar had tried as a child.

Beneath the crystal, at the heart of the Vault, Archsaji Ponti stood atop the marble dais, arms outstretched in welcome. Bathed in light, Ponti likened to the Golden God himself, as powerful in frame as he was in office. His vestments were thrown wide, displaying a broad chest and a wide silk sash about his middle. Like the other saji, he sported the five-pointed beard, though his was oiled and gloriously dark, defying the onset of age. In truth he looked more the warrior than a man of worship, but it was that strength that of body and faith that earned his position.

Once the priests had settled into their concentric circles around the dais, Ponti turned slowly on the spot to survey them all. Osar felt a thrill as the Archsaji’s gaze passed over him, as if the magic in his veins pulsed with fresh energy.

“Before we begin this morning’s prayers…” Ponti’s deep voice reverberated through the Vault, seemingly everywhere at once. “…I have news of the Opel invasion.”

A murmur passed through the congregation, but Ponti quelled it with a hand. In the silence the double doors creaked on their hinges.

“The city is rife with rumour. Some say the Opel horde has laid siege to Taasur. Others claim they have made it as far south as the Iaria Bridge. Whatever the fate of our countrymen, we shall pray for those outside the Golden City.”

The doors crashed open, the deafening resonance amplified within the dome. Dust clouded over Osar and those nearest the back, and he was forced to cover his eyes with a hand to see.

“Do not pray for those that are already doomed!” An unseen voice boomed through the echoes of the crash. “Pray for those you can still save, including yourselves.”

Spluttering, Osar spun around with the other priests at the ringing of steel and booted feet on stone. A rank of Paladins blocked the entrance, tower shields locked, Morningstaff polearms bristling.

One of the Paladins broke rank and stepped forward. The full-face helm muffled his voice, but the words were not lost on Osar.

“Taasur has fallen...”


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Re: [FANTASY] 'Godsfall' - rewritten extract ch. 1 (1500 words - ooo, cutting it fine

I do like this. I think you've captured a good piece of character interplay that creates pathos, and more than that, you've established a context for it all far beyond what you had before.

A couple of thoughts, though:



the sickly sweet aroma of medicinal herbs clinging to it.

There's added strength in giving exact details. What did these herbs smell of? Use one or two specific names we might be able to imagine smelling for extra power, and perhaps something made-up as part of the world-building.


With ritual familiarity, everyone took their place around the Vault. Not for the first time Osar marvelled at the inner workings of the temple. Though the ziggurat was built on even stepped levels, the Vault within was a perfect dome, smooth walls adorned with murals of temple history at eye-level, overlooked by little yellow birds in flight. At the point where one had to look-up, the birds flew no higher, and in their place stars decorated the curved ceiling. There were no windows in the Vault, and the only light came from the opulus at the dome’s apex. A single beam of sunlight shone through the opening, striking the great amber-veined crystal that was suspended from the ceiling by golden chains. Dizzying reflections danced around the Vault, impossible to follow though Osar had tried as a child.

Beneath the crystal, at the heart of the Vault, Archsaji Ponti stood atop the marble dais, arms outstretched in welcome. Bathed in light, Ponti likened to the Golden God himself, as powerful in frame as he was in office. His vestments were thrown wide, displaying a broad chest and a wide silk sash about his middle. Like the other saji, he sported the five-pointed beard, though his was oiled and gloriously dark, defying the onset of age. In truth he looked more the warrior than a man of worship, but it was that strength that of body and faith that earned his position.

I dropped out of the story here as this feels like info-dumping. You may be able to get away with it, but at this early point in the story it may be a better idea to push ahead with the story itself to settle the reader in, and add this detail later.


“The city is rife with rumour. Some say the Opel horde has laid siege to Taasur.

You've dropped out of character again. While it's fine to tell us all this news, the inference is that it is important and will emotionally affect Osar. Yet we get no emotional response from him. Because of that, the gravity of the situation is not communicated to us and you're missing a trick because of it.

At the moment Osar is our guide to this world, so his emotional reactions can be used to impact the reader. His relationship to his mother has already given him sympathy - now use what you've gained to lead us in deeper emotionally.


Overall, though, without trying to nit-pick, I think this shows good quality writing skills. And I especially like the way you've made every effort to turn this around by writing something different, rather than band-aid the previous.

Looks like a decent foundation for the story to continue with, but as above, a little more emotional involvement could add more depth and tension and conflict - what you probably already feel in this scene, but isn't communicating well to the reader.

2c.
 
Re: [FANTASY] 'Godsfall' - rewritten extract ch. 1 (1500 words - ooo, cutting it fine

Thanks again I, Brian!

Got my red pen at the ready, and annotated your thoughts on my working copy. Definitely going address the issues. I feel more comfortable with this piece, thanks to everyone's input, and the points you made this (and last) time have really helped me to notice what I've been missing.
 
Re: [FANTASY] 'Godsfall' - rewritten extract ch. 1 (1500 words - ooo, cutting it fine

If I die today, will you still come here to watch the phoenix?” – said whom?

“Psst, mother. You won’t die today.” Standing behind her, Osar draped the shawl around her frail shoulders and kissed the top of her head. What little hair she had left was plastered to her scalp, the sickly sweet aroma of medicinal herbs clinging to it.
– hush mother maybe, Psst seemed is for attracting attention in my little world!

Wheezing, she twisted on the stone bench and looked him in the eye. “Ossy, we all die. That’s why life is so precious – it passes us by in the blink of an eye.” Her clammy hand cupped his cheek. “Why look at you, all grown up, handsome and strong. I can still remember the day I gave birth to you. Sixteen years seems like just yesterday. I was the same age as you are now.”

Turning back to the horizon, red dawn before the sunrise, she chuckled to herself. “You were an ugly baby.”
– Who is seeing the red dawn here, Osar or the mother? I suspect a head hop but I’m not 100%. Sticking to one character POV is recommended, but many writers head hop all the time, see Shogun.

Osar circled the bench, hiking-up his yellow vestments to step over the rubble of a collapsed sandstone pillar. “You are a wicked woman,” he scolded, failing to hide the ghost of a smile as he knelt before her.

“I look like an old crone, and I’d hate to disappoint by acting any other way.” She winked. “Besides, if not for this disease, I’d still have the looks of my age and the other priests would’ve long forsaken their vows.”

This time her mirth was strangled by a wet cough
, I didn’t feel a comma pause here wracking her entire body. Gasping for breath, tears tracing her hollow cheeks, she clutched to her chest, lost somewhere beneath the folds of her threadbare gown.

When at last the fit subsided, Osar offered his hand to her. “Let me see.”

“I’m fine. Too dry a day.” She rasped, shrugging the shawl from her shoulders and balling it in her lap. “Why’ve you
have you wrapped me in this anyway? Have you forgotten that there’s a desert outside the walls of this city?” – some missed words, and would she not say - ‘we’re in a desert.’ – instead of, there’s a desert outside the walls?

Osar gestured with his extended hand. “Mother.”
– why extended?

“Too curious for your own good.” She rolled her eyes, but reached out to him all the same. “Fine, but don’t tell me what you see. I’m better off not knowing.”

Their fingers met, and as he closed his eyes the barriers of flesh faded away. Around them the world turned an absent shade, somewhere between black and white, but not quite grey. The stone bench, the fountain to his right, the pillars circling the ruins, even the monumental ziggurat that housed the temple itself – all lost their colour on the manaplains. The sounds of the priests waking for morning prayer echoed from a world away. He could see them moving through the gardens around the ruins, their silhouettes aglow with life, like stars in the night. Those with magic shone all the brighter, their manaseeds a lantern in the nether.

Harnessing a strand of magic from the light of his own manaseeds, Osar extended it towards his mother. The tumour in her breast was no larger than his thumb, but it cast a shadow over her heart that muffled its erratic beat. Probing the tumour with the mana strand, as a surgeon might with his fingers, Osar sighed with relief.

‘No better, no worse.’ The thought was somehow comforting. ‘You’ll see the phoenix again tomorrow.’

“Ossy, look!” Her voice pulled him back to the present. She pointed to the east as the sun broke over the horizon. “Here it comes.”

Over the temple’s outer wall a shape took to the sky. From where Osar sat at his mother’s feet, he watched the phoenix spiral ever higher, its song drifting through the heavens. As it reached its zenith, no more than a faint outline before the sun, it burst into flames, golden feathers showering the city below.

“Now, I can die happy.”

Before Osar could reply, the gong boomed from the fourth level of the ziggurat, shaking very the earth. Dust plumed within the ruins, and a lopsided pillar shifted with the grating of stone.
– I’m not entirely sure what happened here, why dust?

“It’s dangerous sitting here.” Osar gained his feet. “Why don’t we watch the phoenix from the rock gardens, tomorrow?” – why put her here there in the first place? May have been explained, just a comment.



I thought the mother section needed a bit more work for added emotion, but I liked it. The second section was well handled with nice description and with enough of the plot showing to interest me. The long sections of the dome etc., while reading them it was clear it was info dumping. Unlike I Brian, I didn’t mind these sections too much, I accepted you were giving background, but it didn’t flow naturally. Sort of, this is what the character sees, now make the character have a good look for the benefit of the reader. It was obvious what you were doing, which is super picky, but there you go.
A good opening, it just needs more realism from the character – character reactions and emotions. Much improved, well done.

My thoughts, would the character not be a bit put out at having soldiers in a religious setting, and men in amour make a racket when moving about – you had doors creaking in silence and then an army at the doors! No one heard them coming? No one was upset they were in a church armed with weapons?
 
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I'm going to be controversial...

I actually preferred the setting of the first version, with his mother already dead and him mourning over the grave. That to me, was far grabbier as an opening than this, and I liked his belligerent sod-everyone attitude. I like the phoenix in this bit, but there's surely no reason you can't have it appearing over the graveside as he's weeping for her, and the bit about the imaging of her tumour was interesting, but not attention-keepingly so.

There's something about the dialogue in this which is bugging me, though I can't put my finger on what -- it's not just the info-dumping you shove into it, though that's a bit awkward. She certainly doesn't sound like a 32 year old, even one with terminal cancer, and he doesn't sound 16.

The whole scene, I feel rather like I'm being hit over the head with an attempt at pathos, instead of the emotion directly arising from the situation, if that makes sense. For me, also, it went on too long, yet without going anywhere, and there's the absence of conflict that was so present and important in the other version.

Will his mother play much of a part in the book, dead or alive? If not, I'd seriously reconsider starting with her like this. I'd actually suggest reverting to the location of the original but adding some extras from here, like the phoenix, with perhaps some mini-flashbacks showing some of this sick-bench scene, but I'm a sucker for flashbacks of that kind, which I employ a lot, so that's perhaps of little help!

Sorry to be contrary!
 
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Haha, err...now I'm stuck! Back to the start again it is!
 
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Back to the start again it is!
No, no, no! Not just on my say-so. (Even though I am always right of course. **:p)

Wait to see what other people say. Unless you actually prefer the grave-side scene yourself and you're just looking for anyone to corroborate your view!


** I know other people have difficulty knowing where to begin, but that's one problem I've never had with my own work. Scenes get altered, but the actual setting and my conception of where to start never changes. (Though whether that's because I get it right first time or I'm so hide-bound I can't contemplate anything different is another matter...)
 
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Haha, thanks Judge. I'm juggling the character to some extent, or at least his journey. This scene is purely to introduce to the Opel invasion, the character of Osar, and either his loss OR its precursor. The Opel introduction is the most important to me as the writer, as it sets up the other PoV character, but I don't want to sacrifice Osar as a realistic character by cutting him short.

I know that I need him to lose his faith, but do I start with him having forsook it, or with it intact before the death of his mother...

To be or not to be, I hate that damned question.
 
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The best advice may be to get your first draft complete. Once you do that you'll see so many things fall into place because they now have a context with the rest of the story to work with. It's easier as well to grapple with changes, because you can see how any will affect the rest of the story and make any edits accordingly.

Either way I think you show a lot of promise, which is good, so just keep at it. We can only provide opinions. It's up to you to balance what you decide works best for the story. :)
 
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Do your own thing, all your getting is our views and opinions, who's to say we're right?

To be fair to Judge (not because she scares me!) you have lost the grumpy teenage voice in this draft. Deciding if you want that voice is now up to you.

Welcome to writing and all it's frustrations....
 
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Haha, see now there's a benefit and a loss to that grumpy teenager.

+ : Wahay, no teenage angst (well, until I kill off his mother mwahahaha).

- : Arguably, is the scene as powerful as the image of Osar at his mother's grave.

Thanks all, I hadn't troubled over this scene until now. Got too carried away in the writing the rest of the story last time, and having spent so long away from it, on return I'm obsessing over the details!
 
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I found this more engaging that the earlier version. It's not bad, except that in the second part of this one, there are some descriptions that seem a bit wordy. However it's a completely different piece, and I'm puzzled. This occurs before the events in the earlier-presented piece, but I don't recall any invasion being mentioned in that. Have you drafted out the whole story, or are you still searching for the best way to start it?
If it's the latter, I strongly suggest that you draft out the whole thing, then when you have got it down you can go back and sort out the beginning, knowing where the story goes and having had a few more months to think about it.
 
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I like the first version better.

The main character mourning over the grave worked well in my opinion, this version minces along a bit.

But I'm not a super literate dude, I only comment on how it feels and how interested it makes me so feel free to ignore me.
 
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I am fairly new at this and didn’t read the first draft.

This is easy to read. I didn’t mind the description of the temple as others did, although it could have been a bit more emotional – artistic – woven into the action. If I hadn’t read the other comments I wouldn’t have thought to mention it.

Even though you start out saying the son is 16 and the mother is 32, I soon forgot that. I thought the son was around forty and the mother around eighty. It wasn’t until I read the other comments that I went back to see why they thought the characters were young.

[FONT=&quot]When she smiled, colour blossomed on her lips, cheek swelling with new life, and the ravages of the disease gave way to the woman he remembered her from when he was a child.[/FONT]
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This would be a good place to reinforce their ages. It sounds like a middle-aged person remembering their childhood. Not a teenager thinking about what his mother would be like, if she were healthy. Also the sentence is a bit awkward, “[FONT=&quot]to the woman he remembered her from when he was a child[/FONT].”

In general, nice clear writing.
 
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Well, I'll be emphatic here, and sit firmly on the fence...:rolleyes:

What I do like about this one is there's much more immediate emotion invested in Oscar, from a reader pov. In the first one, the event had already happened - his mother dying - whereas now we're pretty sure it's going to happen, and seeing the mother does add a small amount of pathos, and gives us a chance to like her, whereas before we hadn't the faintest if she'd been a right cow who deserved to die... Now if, after the shenanigans with the Paladins (I couldn't decide if they were good paladins or bad, which might be a good thing) we see Oscar digging the grave in the same way, you'd please everyone - which is a dangerous thing to aim for. You write to please yourself, nobody else, except perhaps an agent or publisher. Even then, you might decide to find another agent/publisher...

And in this one there's more fantastical things going on - the phoenix, the scanning with magic, which intrigue me further. I think I just fell off the fence on the side of version 2. I agree with the psst, going, but I think this line( sorry Brian!) is brilliant, and must stay as it is:
What little hair she had left was plastered to her scalp, the sickly sweet aroma of medicinal herbs clinging to it.

Coupla nitpicks: it's the way she speaks - seems so down-home american here (if that's your market, maybe leave it in!). And in talking to her only son, would she even now be trying to protect him from his own emotions, so maybe not mention death, or remind him of her own age?

Wheezing, she twisted on the stone bench and looked him in the eye. “Ossy, we all die. That’s why life is so precious – it passes us by in the blink of an eye.” Her clammy hand cupped his cheek. “Why look at you, all grown up, handsome and strong. I can still remember the day I gave birth to you. Sixteen years seems like just yesterday. I was the same age as you are now.”

Wheezing, she twisted on the stone bench and looked him in the eye. “Ossy life is so precious – it passes us by in the blink of an eye.” Her clammy hand cupped his cheek. “It doesn't seem possible I gave birth to you sixteen years ago - seems like just yesterday.”

When she smiled, colour blossomed on her lips, cheek swelling with new life, and the ravages of the disease gave way to the woman he remembered her delete 'her' from when he was a child.

And with powerful writing like this, I'm afraid I skipped the infodumping, in the second section and went looking for the next action - Ponti speaking. When I read 'Not for the first time Osar marvelled at the inner workings of the temple' I knew he was only thinking this because the readers weren't present the first time he thought it, and it seems somewhat clumsy - I'd prefer a narrative description of the temple, shortened a bit, but that could be just me!

Oh, it was dawn when he left his mother, did it take him hours to get to the Temple? Because you have a sunbeam shining down on Ponti, and that would only happen if the sun was directly over him - otherwise it would be angled, creeping down the walls of the dome.

Ponti doesn't have news, he only has rumours... if there's magic about, how come he doesn't know the truth already, but the Paladins do? No communications magic networks?

I'd definitely read more, though.




 
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Cheers Boneman! Thanks again for the input - I really appreciate you taking a second look at my work.

And this just made my day:

I'd definitely read more, though.


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Woohoo, I'm getting somewhere!
 
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