star wars boba fett book series

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this is my first thread so I hope I am doing it right. I was just wondering if any one else has heard of: star wars Boba Fett a clone wars novel by Elizabeth hand. if you have I would like to discuss it In this thread.
 
Hi, welcome to the Chrons. I haven't read that series, but I did read the Han Solo series, about before he met Luke, and would recommend them - good fun with some nice world enhancing.
 
Never read only of these but been curious, I've been put off because I presumed them to be for a younger audience. Is this the case, are they adult reading or young adult?
 
Hi, welcome to the Chrons. I haven't read that series, but I did read the Han Solo series, about before he met Luke, and would recommend them - good fun with some nice world enhancing.

I have to disagree with this one. I used to like Star Wars until I discovered that it was mostly stolen from Kurosawa movies, which I started watching last year. Examples include the sunset scene, Kenobi chopping off the thug's arm, and obviously Vader's helmet (kabuto).

Hans Solo goes next to Mace Windu as the worst and most boring character ever. Even as a kid, I didn't find him cool at all, I thought he was a rip-off of a Clint Eastwood character.

I'm not normally this harsh, really, but Star Wars really makes me angry because as far as I'm concerned, it's intellectual property theft. I'm Japanese, so I take it personally.
 
Yeah, he's pretty well known. That whole bar scene where Kenobi chops off the man's arm was taken from Yojimbo (action, dialogue). Also, Jar Jar Binks was stolen from the character Kuk, which came from The Seven Samurai, although Kurosawa did a much better job. Then there's the Samurai Trilogy, which was not directed by Kurosawa, but from where he got the two robot characters that appear at the beginning of the 1976 Star Wrs movie. Also, Queen Padmay looks like a geisha.
 
Yeah, he's pretty well known. That whole bar scene where Kenobi chops off the man's arm was taken from Yojimbo (action, dialogue). Also, Jar Jar Binks was stolen from the character Kuk, which came from The Seven Samurai, although Kurosawa did a much better job. Then there's the Samurai Trilogy, which was not directed by Kurosawa, but from where he got the two robot characters that appear at the beginning of the 1976 Star Wrs movie. Also, Queen Padmay looks like a geisha.
You've got you Japanese movies mixed up here. The idea for the use of the robots in Star Wars came to Lucas from the way the tale in The Hidden Fortress was told from the perspective of the escaped slaves. The Hidden Fortress was indeed directed by Akira Kurosawa in 1958. The Samurai Trilogy that tells the story of Musashi Miyamoto (Directed by Hiroshi Inagaki and also starring Mifune) wasn't a particular influence on Lucas, as far as I'm aware.

EDIT: As for "Kuk" - there isn't a character in The Seven Samurai with this actual name. Did you mean Kikuchiyo (played by Mifune). He doesn't strike me as very Jar Jar Binks-like really. Do you have a source for that, as I've not heard it before and its quite interesting. Kikuchiyo is the jokester Samurai, but he has skill and courage and is not really accident-prone. Some similarities exist in that he trails after the lead Samurai and wishes to be accepted but it seems a bit of a reach to me to suggest Lucas based JJB on this character. Stranger things have happened though!
 
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You've got you Japanese movies mixed up here. The idea for the use of the robots in Star Wars came to Lucas from the way the tale in The Hidden Fortress was told from the perspective of the escaped slaves. The Hidden Fortress was indeed directed by Akira Kurosawa in 1958. The Samurai Trilogy that tells the story of Musashi Miyamoto (Directed by Hiroshi Inagaki and also starring Mifune) wasn't a particular influence on Lucas, as far as I'm aware.

EDIT: As for "Kuk" - there isn't a character in The Seven Samurai with this actual name. Did you mean Kikuchiyo (played by Mifune). He doesn't strike me as very Jar Jar Binks-like really. Do you have a source for that, as I've not heard it before and its quite interesting. Kikuchiyo is the jokester Samurai, but he has skill and courage and is not really accident-prone. Some similarities exist in that he trails after the lead Samurai and wishes to be accepted but it seems a bit of a reach to me to suggest Lucas based JJB on this character. Stranger things have happened though!

Bottom line is, Lucas is a hack. A real writer doesn't steal ideas. I don't care what the court says, I call this copyright infringement.
 
I disagree, he was obviously influenced and took inspiration and some ideas but I don't see any of these Japanese films being based in another galaxy
 
I disagree, he was obviously influenced and took inspiration and some ideas but I don't see any of these Japanese films being based in another galaxy

Doesn't matter. Any form of copying, no matter how slight, is an infringement of honor. Also, a story that takes place in a galaxy is not original or creative.
 
Another major influence on Kurosawa was his elder brother, Heigo, who was addicted to the novels of Fyodor Dostoyevsky and Maksim Gorky. Additionally, he introduced Akira to Western art and the auteur cinema of Fritz Lang, John Ford, Vsevolod Pudovkin, and Sergei Eisenstein. Heigo, however, was to commit suicide when Akira was twenty-three years old. In his memoir Something Like an Autobiography, Kurosawa wrote about his brother’s profound influence on his development in art and literature, and especially in nurturing his passion for Dostoyevsky. Their only difference, he wrote, was that “my brother was pessimistic and negative, and I was optimistic and positive.” One time, Kurosawa met an actor who knew his brother, and the actor told him, “You are exactly like your brother, only he’s the negative, and you’re the positive print.”

From Dostoyevsky, Kurosawa inherited the concept of redemption. As had Dostoyevsky’s czarist Russia, Kurosawa’s Japan was going through momentous economic changes and had to brace itself against an impending catastrophe. The tortures of historical change produced in the artist a humanitarian ideal, to seek redemption through acts of self-sacrifice. In Seven Samurai, the samurai display great perseverance in protecting the farmers, their social inferiors. In the closing sequence, as the farmers joyously plant rice seedlings and sing, the surviving samurai stand by their comrades’ grave, on a mound, and sigh, “The victory belongs to those peasants, not to us.”

Besides Dostoyevsky (whose novel The Idiot Kurosawa adapted to the screen in 1951), Gorky was also a significant influence. Kurosawa penned an adaptation of his The Lower Depths, bringing to the screen Gorky’s insights into lowly human behavior born out of evil, cruelty, and poverty. The warmth and moderation in human nature so cele*brated in Yasujiro Ozu’s films have no place in Kurosawa’s works. There is instead much affinity with Gorky in matters concerning the contradictions and innate antagonism in human nature, as well as the fierce struggle for survival. This also explains why Kurosawa was fond of the films of Kenji Mizoguchi, particularly those of the 1930s.

From thr Criterion website.

Man, what a hack this Kurosawa was...

Let's be real here. Every, and that means NO exception, artist ever has been influenced by and has referenced other artists.

Be proud that Lucas honoured and revered Akira Kurosawa so much that he decided to pay tribute to him in the one film that defined his entire life.

How many people would never have heard of Kurosawa had Lucas not cited him as one of his main influences?
 
I did. They really are for young readers and make no real sense continuity wise, especially if you're a fan of the other expanded universe novels.

They are highly forgettable and are only recommended to die hard Boba Fett fans.
 
From thr Criterion website.

Man, what a hack this Kurosawa was...

Let's be real here. Every, and that means NO exception, artist ever has been influenced by and has referenced other artists.

Be proud that Lucas honoured and revered Akira Kurosawa so much that he decided to pay tribute to him in the one film that defined his entire life.

How many people would never have heard of Kurosawa had Lucas not cited him as one of his main influences?

Is Criterion a reliable source? I can't believe them unless I see vidoe evidence or documented copyright evidence.

Lucas admitted on filmn multiple times that he was influence by Kurosawa to the point where he wanted to cast Toshiro Mifune.

I'm not trying to start a flame war, but I just don't think Lucas has what it takes to be a writer. The fact taht "millions of people like Star Wars" means nothing to me. I say his work is a copy.
 
I did. They really are for young readers and make no real sense continuity wise, especially if you're a fan of the other expanded universe novels.

They are highly forgettable and are only recommended to die hard Boba Fett fans.

I didn't read them, but I saw them. They came out around the same time as the movie about the clones, ergo I am not surprosed that it was a rush job.
 
Is Criterion a reliable source? I can't believe them unless I see vidoe evidence or documented copyright evidence.

Lucas admitted on filmn multiple times that he was influence by Kurosawa to the point where he wanted to cast Toshiro Mifune.

I'm not trying to start a flame war, but I just don't think Lucas has what it takes to be a writer. The fact taht "millions of people like Star Wars" means nothing to me. I say his work is a copy.
Good grief. Can I suggest you look up "homage", "influence" and "derived" in the dictionary? And then carefully compare those definitions with "copy" to see if they are identical. Also look up Kurosawa's Throne of Blood to check out what story it retells (copies, to use your vernacular).
 

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