Companion clara oswald to leave doctor who?

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Hi! She wouldn't directly accept or deny this in an interview I saw somewhere the other day... For me it's a bit strange that so many of the companions are spanning Doctors these days. Or maybe it was always that way? Matt Smith had a clean start after Tennant's long goodbye, which led to the arc for Amy being so nicely rounded (being left in NY not withstanding)... If it'd been a complete fresh start for today's episode I think that would have been preferable to another case of a new Doctor getting 1 season with the existing companion then they leave and he goes into the inevitable "I want to be alone" before coming back for another companion...
 
She was on the ITV breakfast show (in the UK) earlier this week and specifically said it was more exciting for the fans not to know, so was deliberately not going to answer the question (about whether she was leaving).

 
The Daily Mirror reports today that Jenna-Louise Coleman, who plays Doctor Who companion, Clara Oswald, will leave the show at Christmas:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-whos-jenna-louise-coleman-quits-4061757

I can't find any other reports - but if true, that will leave Peter Capaldi's Doctor with just a male companion, Danny Pink, played by Samuel Anderson:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26320817

Given what I've seen so far, which is precious little - couldn't bear to watch the first one past the first fifteen minutes - let's be honest it was dreadful - I can see why she would want to leave. Why ruin a promising young career by being associated with the dross the program has become. I fancy this Who will be the last one ever and wouldn't be surprised if the series was pulled. Yes I think it deserves it.


Hi! She wouldn't directly accept or deny this in an interview I saw somewhere the other day... For me it's a bit strange that so many of the companions are spanning Doctors these days. Or maybe it was always that way? Matt Smith had a clean start after Tennant's long goodbye, which led to the arc for Amy being so nicely rounded (being left in NY not withstanding)... If it'd been a complete fresh start for today's episode I think that would have been preferable to another case of a new Doctor getting 1 season with the existing companion then they leave and he goes into the inevitable "I want to be alone" before coming back for another companion...

Mainly, it was ever thus markpud. They may have been booted our soon after a Who change but in the main the sidekick hung around to act surprised at the new face. I seem to recall a few in my rapidly deteriorating memory. It does help give continuity.

(I wonder if the memory loss about Who is due in part to some 'self preservatory' process whereby my brain realises they will damage my function?)
 
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Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy the first episode, I did, even if it wasn't a classic.. I suppose I have a separate category for Who where I have a higher tolerance for shenanigans! It's the character beats that are most enjoyable and there were plenty as the episode progressed..

As a child of the McCoy era I don't have that much to fall back on regeneration-wise, but what you say makes sense.. companion facing the "new" doctor and being the audience's mouthpiece for the "what the $%^ just happened and where's my Doctor gone" feelings.
 
Well I go back to the Kennedy assassination night and the days of black and white.

I suppose I will have to force myself to watch the rest of it sometime. It's just the small clip I did see in the middle after I had given up had Capaldi in full swing over acting as though his life depended on it. It was dreadful. He was bad in the Musketeers but as Who he seems to be excelling himself (badly IMO). John Wayne could do no better IMO. Fair enough he's not helped by the script, the rest of the cast (baring the lovely Clara of course, although she wasn't her usual radiant self IMO) and the stupid plots, which seem to have no sense of continuity from one episode to the next, never mind the series to series.

As an example, when in the history of Who has the TARDIS ever taken it's containing body with it through time. If it had there would be more spaceships hanging around it (not to mention moons and planets) than there are particles in the universe.

As for the Who am I, who is he, section at the beginning and what's that Godzilla thing in the Thames (where was the wooden 'peer' - oh that'll be the acting).

Then a green scaly woman and Mr. Potato Head revel themselves in the middle of a crowd and what do the populous of London do. Do they reach for the garlic butter and silver paper. NO, they completely ignore them and let them push themselves down onto the beach, where some enterprising young children have built the sandcastle walls just where the TARDIS is about to land. Now I'm not too familiar with Lizard features and Potato Head, but surely the golden rule in the world is that if, if mind you, a blue police box happens to be spat out of a prehistoric creature from 65 million years ago then if there' one thing that's certain. If someone sticks his head out of those doors and it isn't a woman, then it's the Doctor. Especially if he's acting like some first year RADA student on something only available from your local dealer.

And that was just the first few moments - Pass me that gun I need to shoot myself.
 
Capaldi was playing it up - I'm sure you can relate to the post-regen character ticks as the doctor brings a few of his predecessor's traits with him then his new personality starts to take over. There's a great scene later in the episode which is just the doctor in conversation with a homeless guy...

I agree that bringing the dinosaur through the time vortex makes no sense at all! And we have definitely stretched credulity to say that Strax and Vastra can pass for "deformed" humans, even with her veil that she doesn't wear consistently (and that veil is actually a nice character point between her and Clara, and Clara's struggle to accept that this new man is the doctor she knew).

But if that stuff bothers you so much I don't know how you can survive watching who for so many years/decades? :)

The doctor does settle down as the ep goes on, and becomes much less clownish.. by the end you're left wondering if something truly dark just happened by his hand - but I won't say more as that's a spoiler...

I hope you'll give it a go, your favourite pepper pots are back in ep 2, too!
 
Just watched 2:

I don't know where to begin. Its all been said. The big arc of the schoolteacher is just going to get annoying. I wonder what's hiding in the attic, cellar, bike shed and what dark secret we are going to have to suffer to explain the tears - Is he going to be the brother from this episode or is he just a war criminal hiding in plain sight.

OK Miniaturise a few people and let them swim through an eye - yeah that's a brilliant idea if it wasn't for the problem that the eye is mechanical and in the old days actually had a camera iris. Why the shape shifting/stretching?

Then we get to the innards and we have Luke Skywalker targets acting as antibodies. Where do they go when the daleks die by the way, Anyway one out of ten for originality - surprised there isn't a law suit on the way even as we speak?

Never heard of daleks being fed. Where do the dropping go - How come their not sliding about in piles of sh*t whenever we see them, say on their ship. What does dalek sh*t smell of? So into the belly of the beast. No one gets their skin burnt off by the stomach acid no fumes no point, oh apart from the absolutely nonsensical 'big nut'. I suppose it did give the producer a chance to get Clara sliding about in green mud though.

Then we wander about in Chernobyl, radiation effusing the place like it was going out of fashion - Odd that wasn't detected before they went in though. After all they had enough tubes attached to the thing you would think as they opened the lid to attach them they might have noticed an off the scale radiation reading. It was a bit odd all those tubes weren't evident when they got inside too.

And so to the man of steel section where our hero grabs the ends of the power lines and fuses them together with his heat vision: oh sorry not even the old screwdriver: and magically Who is in the brain of old Rustie. Yeah that was where it started to make sense.

So old Who shows him literally a Kaleidoscope (that prop department 'eh, it looked so real) and Rusty sees the light and instead of going berserk killing the humans it goes berserk killing the daleks, who, so shocked by this unwarranted attack fail completely to shoot back and they all die.

Amazing, incredible, I take my hat of the scriptwriters, they are obviously masters of their skill and without doubt underpaid. That they could come up with such a unique twist for our intrepid villains beggars belief.

But wait, there's more, Clara has to be put back 'in her box' for the over arching story.

The only good thing was the superb efforts by the prop department,t blowing its weekly budget on the flexible hoses - That was like a throw back to the sixties. (Or was it Brazil)

I'm resisting (and failing) the blatant reference to the dead soldier going to heaven in the form of the Mad Hatters Tea Party. Is this a clue to the over arch - The series ends with Tardis dumping them all in Wonderland and the soldier schoolteacher is in fact a Queen of hearts guardsman.

Where's the Cheshire cat, Who is the walrus, order more yellow belly custard and watch out for that yellow submarine.
 
I wonder if the Promised Land scenes that finish each episode are to prepare us for Clara dying? And give her a position of responsibility there - so that she's seen less as dead, as much as "moved on" to another reality?
 
If you mean the beginning of this weeks episode (Caretaker) I don't think so. I think it was just a bit of titillation for the male viewers: seeing Clara in chains.

I wonder what the idea of the last scene was in Caretaker. With the jolly copper being signed into the afterlife with the obvious reference to the Q. of hearts. We are definitely going there in the last episode (or before if Clara wants out sooner).

I think this afterlife reference is touching on dangerous waters myself. Apart from anything else it has a distinct smell of Quantum Leap.

No doubt the 'Life of Brian' haters brigade will be out in force demanding resignations.

I'd be for the resignations, but not for that.
 
If you mean the beginning of this weeks episode (Caretaker) I don't think so.

No, what I mean is - if Clara is leaving Doctor Who, and we have a series of scenes about the afterlife, then does this mean we are being carefully prepared to accept Clara's death?

There was quite a bit in the episode "Caretaker" that potentially laid ground for this, IMO. Not least Clara's trust, but the Doctor still pushing her, using her as bait, and Danny's dislike of that, etc.
 
The using her as bait thing was nonsense anyway.

He implied that by being discovered at the failed attempt it would seek him out as a first priority - him being the greatest threat and all. So there was no need for Clara to do the now you see me now you don't dance. (Not to mention what kind of boyfriend would leave to get on with it).

Isn't there something wrong with having her dead though - Isn't she the one who has seen everything of who's life in the vortexy, this is where I die, the one place I can't go episode. So how can she not be there. I fancy she's to be pensioned of with Danny to live out her days bored to tears in domestic bliss.
 
I think you're spot on TEIN, using Clara as bait seemed to be there just so Danny could get all meaningful with her while they were watching TV later in the episode. I guess the writers were hoping we'd all forget about the Doctor being the main threat.
Danny didn't just leave her to get on with it though, he followed her while turning invisible with the help of the spectacularly deus ex machina watch thingy. (Don't get me started on how annoying I found this - if the doctor has this now, why hasn't he used it in the past? Even as recently as Time Heist it might have been handy.)

And while I don't know if Clara will be leaving or not at Christmas, there was that bit with Orson Pink who seemed to suggest that she was his grandmother. So they had either better get a wiggle on in the relationship stakes if she is going to die or they could just write them both out to live happily ever after?

Anyway, it sounds like I didn't enjoy it but I have the same problem(?) as Markpud, a sky high tolerance for all sorts of weird Doctor Who malarkey.
And with all my reservations, I'm still liking 12 - grumpiness suits him and it does hark back to the first doctor which is nice. (A more believable alien would have been nice too though - a little less sticky-back plastic and lego and a little more imagination may have helped!)
 
Did you see Dr Who Extra? The creature wasn't CG it was built and had a small gentleman inside it. The legs were remote operated and not load-bearing so that's probably why they didn't seem that realistic.... I'm generally a fan of practical over CG where appropriate, but this fella just didn't quite do it for me.

As for the "afterlife" I reckon Brian is probably right and this is all leading to Clara dying and then appearing for tea and cake with Missy. Then this will turn out to be not so afterlifey after all and the Doctor gets her back. Then on to her inevitable happy ever after with Danny...

Could be fun to see Capaldi and Addison reunited from "The Thick Of It" tho!
 
Actually Mark - You've hit on what could be a fantastic conclusion to the whole who debacle.

Clara dies, goes to heaven and Who/Tardis has to go there to get her back.**

Controversy, religious backlash, Who and every episode ever made wiped from the face of the world to satisfy the clamour for repentance.

Come back John Lennon, all is forgiven.



**(picking up Rose on the way).
 
It seems to be that we won't have Danny as companion and I do hope those rumours about Clara leaving are true. I've tried to give her a shot this season because I hoped her interactions with the Doctor would be more interesting, but it was left wanting. All she brings is Claracentric drama and barely anything else.
 
I thought Clara was much more interesting as "the impossible girl", than she ever was as a companion. There could have been a really good story arc behind her constant appearances in the Doctor's travels, but it turned out to be so much less interesting, unfortunately.
 

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